Lujan Matus

[Absyllyon]

It has been 3 years since my nagual was damaged. At that time I was experiencing much synchronicity and clairvoyance; aspects natural to the nagual. I could see things about people that were not usually visible to me. The one defining aspect of this time was a sensation of power around my body, as though some energetic field encased my physical body. This energetic field was growing larger and denser as time went on. It is this field of energy I am calling my nagual, that was damaged. In actual fact the sensation was more a ripping away, as though I was assaulted and flayed to bits; pillaged and brutalised. As time went on the loss of this energy left me with no will to live, life was just some barbaric aberration; a tomb filled with soulless, mechanical life forms.

In a interaction with LM I experienced a piercing and ripping apart of something in my chest and solar plexus. The injustice of this stunned me. How could this man, who can see, not see me. How can he not see the impact and damage the energy of his words had on my nagual. I see he is blind to what happened. How could he not see me when I could see him, know when his life was in danger, when he was withdrawing. For a time there he felt like he was a part of me, sharing as aspect of my life blood and soul. Could he not see this, feel this as I did?

Only recently do I feel the stirrings of this energy as they start to gather. It is still very weak and fragile. It needs to be protected and fortified from any kind of damage. I have to be wide awake now that it is growing again; prepared and armed lest the same thing happens again. I don't particularly expect anything at this stage, but rather later when it is 'ripe for the picking'. Harvest time is a way off, which gives me time to prepare some kind of offering in lieu of my energy.

I have found that what happened as happens with all interactions is that energy was exchanged. I had his energy and he had some of mine, that is why I could sense him, why he felt so familiar. My mistake was been naive like a child instead of taking the stance of a warrior. A bigger mistake was not recapping continually and consistently. It is evident to me now that it is imperative to reclaim ones energy and expel the energy of others to remain sovereign. Not doing so leaves one vulnerable to the vagaries of other peoples intentions.

Perhaps he ejected my energy from him and I experienced this as an assault. As I can only speak of my own experience I can only say that to me he seems blind and I am to blame for what ever expectation I formed of him and what kind of tonal he should have.

At the end of it all I am responsible for what happened, it was my weakness. My tonal is weak and my energy is low, that is why he is my enemy. As my power increases this will change and I will accept him for who he is as I will accept all life.

edit: removed 29 post's at Absyllyon's request

[serloco]

Lujan can't see anything but his own self-importance. The things he states he sees are garbage in my experience. I posted a thread about him and he cried like a baby to a yuku legal team. You can read my thread and experiences with him on the top of this forums home page. It's called "my unveiling of edited by yuku legal"..

[serloco]

You are just fluid and you imagined things and power that harmed you, cut it out of your mind, you are creating it, not him.

[Absyllyon]

It was far from been in my imagination. What I described was in no way metaphoric; it was a description of a tearing and dissipation of an energy field around my body. The damage was as real as if I had fallen and broken my bones.
I am working on cutting the residual thoughts of self-pity from my mind. It is a long tedious process for me. I could not really write publicly about it as it has taken this long to get rid of a lot of the venom I feel. As I see it at the moment, Lujan is the catalyst that caused a huge emotional reaction in me which caused the energetic damage to my nagual. 
It is unfortunate that he was weakened to such an extent that he would seek yuku to edit your posts. A man of power stands on his power and is not bothered with the pettiness of protecting his name and image or his reputation. Before this happened I remember feeling a great sense of brotherhood with others, yet what they thought and said about me was of little consequence. I don't really know how this was so, only that I less than cared.
Btw, I get what you are saying about the laying of spells, or the broadcasting and proliferation of spells. As everything originates from the Nagual, that is where the power is to assert a new outcome. It is in the nagual that one creates ones life, not in the tonal.

[Finwe]

Nagual is unimpactable, because tonal is.

[serloco]

Imagination for me is real.. I have stalked the reality of my imagination so often that I can turn reality into a hallucination and hallucination into reality. The last time I did it was with a horse. The horse was communicating to me in thoughts and words yet I had within myself a domination that could make him move to my will and the horse saw this and was fearful. I was fearful also because in this state if I think that the animal will attack then it will. SO I intended the horse shed its form and in the next few minutes another horse walked "out of itself" and disappeared leaving only the friendly and gentle horse.

My point is cut away whatever power you had in your mind given to Lujan and you will find him empty. Power must be claimed and placed. Place it in the forms you want. I have cut down giant tyrant simply by controlling my own awareness and knowledge. I GAVE THEM THE POWER to harm me. If you dislike the word imagination then call it awareness and knowledge. I however imagine the forms of awareness, power and knowledge and so feel comfortable using the word imagination. That is power for me.

[Absyllyon]

Your clarification strikes me as clear and precise.
You differentiate between true imagination and a more general imagination which is really a fascination with an illusion. I will have to get used to not assuming too much and instead see.
Btw, thank you for responding.

[serloco]

No problem. Our world, our sciences our everything starts in the imagination.

"Reality is an illusion..." - Albert Einstein

[Gugeyewalker]

I've heard of this lujan character.

Absyllyon, mind telling me quite literally what your interaction with him was? And was there some specific thing that caused this ripping of your energy field etc, or is it just something you would rather not share here?

It sounds to me that he quite expertly convinced some people to sort of follow him as a nagual. Quite interesting, at least from a stalking point of view, even if his intentions were not to get rid of self-importance (you could call this dark stalking yes...)

I'm just curious what all this chap did to cause such a stir lol. Appealed to the gullible I guess.

[Gugeyewalker]

serloco wrote:Imagination for me is real.. I have stalked the reality of my imagination so often that I can turn reality into a hallucination and hallucination into reality. The last time I did it was with a horse. The horse was communicating to me in thoughts and words yet I had within myself a domination that could make him move to my will and the horse saw this and was fearful. I was fearful also because in this state if I think that the animal will attack then it will. SO I intended the horse shed its form and in the next few minutes another horse walked "out of itself" and disappeared leaving only the friendly and gentle horse.

My point is cut away whatever power you had in your mind given to Lujan and you will find him empty. Power must be claimed and placed. Place it in the forms you want. I have cut down giant tyrant simply by controlling my own awareness and knowledge. I GAVE THEM THE POWER to harm me. If you dislike the word imagination then call it awareness and knowledge. I however imagine the forms of awareness, power and knowledge and so feel comfortable using the word imagination. That is power for me.Hmm, im not convinced imagination is a total reflection of reality, but an arrangement of filiaments WITHIN our energy fields that may or may NOT align to the real world....

HOWEVER I have no doubt that the images from imagination are very much a reflection of reality in an artful form - it is seeing.

[serloco]

You must make your imagination reality, you have to imagine even how your imagination works. You need to give it that power in order to become that form. Speaking of the mind you ned to form the correct channels to that destination.

[Absyllyon]

Gugeyewalker wrote:I've heard of this lujan character.

Absyllyon, mind telling me quite literally what your interaction with him was? And was there some specific thing that caused this ripping of your energy field etc, or is it just something you would rather not share here?

It sounds to me that he quite expertly convinced some people to sort of follow him as a nagual. Quite interesting, at least from a stalking point of view, even if his intentions were not to get rid of self-importance (you could call this dark stalking yes...)

I'm just curious what all this chap did to cause such a stir lol. Appealed to the gullible I guess.Well I have met him in person a number of times. He is friendly and all that.
 I have lost my way and need to be reminded of a few things, such a been grateful for the lessons. Too own up to my own power and stop giving it away. As noble as he can come across as, he makes mistakes that have severe consequences. The mistakes with me cause me to think that he can't see me. An example of this kind of mistake is of him laying a spell in stating ; "You never feel anything." As I write this I can feel the drag of the intent of those words. We were doing some movements that increase the flow of chi at the time. I was the only one who didn't feel or see anything. Well the comment just served to show me how even he can discard someone who doesn't respond to his energy and power, and to reinforce the social training I grew up with, especially at the hands of my dad. The difference with Lujan is that he claims to be a Nagual and a man of knowledge; not only that, but a sage and holding knowledge no one else has. I believed him and expected to be guided, so those words had a bigger impact than if someone else had said it, I mean I would of laughed it off. The truth is that I see and feel many things, just not so much with him is all. I felt those words and saw his weakness in them.
I moved on to other teachings that had more information and gave me more understanding over the next year and my energy started growing apace. At one point I saw that he was withdrawing from everyone and made mention of it. He told me not to write such things. Some how this innocuous comment caused an impacting ripping sensation in my solar plexus and chest as mentioned in my introduction -On the hunt. It was immediate and I had no time to maneuver myself to off set or moderate the intensity of the emotional charge. Obviously it my own emotional charge that did the damage, yet I blame him for been the catalyst. This energy field was very 'young' and delicate. I felt that as a seer he should know better, that as a man of knowledge he should intuit the impact of his statements. And as such would see the ongoing repercussions of the huge loss of energy I experienced. Either he intended such a result, did not see or he too big a Man to offer me some sort of understanding of what transpired. The energy is like a sapling that needs to be protected and nurtured and one day it will become a huge tree.
I feel betrayed by him for the paltry concern of what others will think. He was in fact withdrawing. I had thought twice about mentioning it but felt impelled to do so to help another person I did not know, who was in much emotional pain. How I knew this I am not really sure, but I did and it turned out to be so. Not only did i see him as too concerned with his image, but also as hard hearted.
He makes big claims yet in my case they have not stacked up. Actually I feel that he corrals and stagnates awareness, and suppress, or waylays burgeoning power in another - that is my experience. To understand things is very important to me and makes a huge difference to what I may be capable of. I experience suppression of understanding from him.
I have waited these few years to speak publicly because the venom and violence I felt towards him for what I thought of at the time, for pillaging my energy would have caused me to slander him in every way I could in an attempt to seek justice for his 'crime', and in no way see that it is I who needs to make my stand.
What I am trying to lay out here is I have to take responsibility for
the full load.

[Finwe]

Lujan Matus is a member of Matus family, he is a man given to his fate, like everyone of us.
If you feel poison,something in that sense of energetic movement, being waylaid it is the tongue of snake, with which the intent of universe sounds
and is calling you home, to your own true family as you cannot see more than him in the emptiness, that was made, because you are more like him, than you are yourself.

If you have any problem with us, you have problem with Earth and if you do not find peace with us, you won't find peace, until you won't find peace with yourself and earth.
I am being serious as I can be, only because I truly feel for you and wish you to unchain what was locked, as I feel it in your words, talking.

[Absyllyon]

Finwe, I am not sure that I follow what you are saying. Would you mind expressing what you have written in another way?

[Finwe]

No, other than that if you do not visit me Juan Matus and very soon, Lujan Matus's poison will kill you. There is no other way for you to save your life other than to meet me, because if there would be, Lujan Matus would not hit you anyway and that is also the only reason why he did, to point you out towards the right direction, of your heart's searching and remedy for your illness, that sticked into you from times, before you even knew what words means.

[serloco]

Lujan is a weak ****. He does not have the power to kill anything. If anything you have the power to kill yourself. Lujan was full of poison when I met him yes, but it doesnt take much of anything to disconnect from him and cut him down to size.

Demands and threats made are only a sign of need and weakness. A true warrior does not need anything, and power always finds a way.

[Absyllyon]

Thanks for the offer Finwe, but I am in no need of another guru.
In all seriousness I find it most improbable that you are Juan Matus and less likely that you are channeling him. If you want to meet me visit me in your dreaming body if you are able.  What can you possibly know of my past?
LM poison has run its coarse.

[Finwe]

I am not interested in teaching you if you have no need of my teachings, I am glad you have specified directly that you are not in a search of authority, if you would have stated that, straight away while concerning your problem, Spirit would be able to link this case accordingly as your intentions would be pure and I could help you straight away instead of braging about my family and earth.

I am only interested in sucking that poison out before it takes control over you completely and you start poisoning others even more than you already did, that is why I am so blunt, otherwise I would be poisoned too. It is in your nagual, no matter someone else putted it there, you have to accept full responsibility for it and when you do it will dissolve itself, because your will, will simply stop to be responsible to him. Any other kind of energetic movement on accord of this energetical phenomaly is it's own venomous influence and heart defiying act and if you Guys or anyone else have anything unresolved, against, in or from Lujan Matus or Mizpah Matus, direct it all on me. I am the Nagual of Earth, I stand behind everything Lujan Matus has became and everything can be solved for and in peace.

[Absyllyon]

He corrals and stagnates awareness, and suppress, or waylays
burgeoning power in another.

[Gugeyewalker]

Poison - when other people generate highly positive feel-good endorphins in others, but those good feelings are under false pretenses, you have basically been poisoned.

This happens in failed love and many other disappointments in life. Its the same with drug addiction on a much more primitive level. Some drug or food makes you feel good but doesn't have any substance, it makes you dependent and saps your energy - its poison.

It seems very clear to me that you actually care a great deal about this guy on some level. I am not making a judgement here, in fact I really understand this and empathize. It is quite possible he may still be a warrior some day OR be miserable the rest of his life. It's not your game anymore.

You are more than capable of reclaiming whatever energy you may have lost. You put the intent out there and you must have no pity about it, ya know, just fucking take it back. And we've been blessed with a number of concrete techniques from various teachings (like the recapitulation) to help you take it back. And since you clearly state now that you would liek to have this energy back, that is the first step - at your core you are already stronger than the shadow of what Lujan Matus was to you, and you can confront that shadow.

It's YOUR energy - you have a right to it, take it please.

[Absyllyon]

Some deep wisdom there Gugeyewalker.
In fact it was me that was generating large amounts of love within myself. As my energy increased the more I felt connected to life. It started consolidating into a center of gravity which drew my purpose to a pinpoint. I moved from been afraid of everything to no fear. I could give a speech in front of any number of people as well as just stand in front of them and be totally comfortable. I could be in amongst the most vile contempt and aggression and not feel any fear what so ever. I felt no fear of the nagual or other beings either. What I felt was a sense of stillness and brotherhood for all. Sure, I felt my emotions rise and fall just like anybody else, but somehow they did not affect me. It was like nothing was personal.I believe this is the place of no pity.
Thanks Gugeyewalker, your words have helped me move my point of reference. The time for grieving the loss of my energy is passing and a new time for growing it back again is begun.I know how to do it, as I did before. Assume the position of gratitude for all things that come my way and ask for forgiveness from my inner being for all the ways I warp perception. This seems to be devastating to self-importance.
How Lujans' words managed to impact so brutally I don't know; especially when I was feeling so bulletproof.  The word 'injustice' comes to mind, and I have not recapped the significance of this as yet.
Do not hold anyone as above or below oneself!

[serloco]

What you put out there you will receive in return. I do not make people my equals for they are simply not me. They have not led my life r=or know of my power and abilities. I would be a fool to hand over my life powers to another who has not done the work I have done, meditated the hours and years i have spent insolation, away from the habitual realities. Yes U have et many who wat what I have, ad many tricks to try to steal what I have but they can not have it. I did not do most of my work so they, greedy,selfish, and evil people can reap my rewards. No, my life is my own, and I am unique as all life is, and you have your life and that is yours and unique for yourself. It may seem right to say all people are equal but in my awareness we are far from equal. Some lowlife needy and greedy bastard does not have the life and heart of a saint or an Angel. They just didn't make the same choices ad same actions that the saint made. Different awareness and knowldge makes different people and ways. I would want to say we all start out aas equal, full of potential that can become anything when we are first created, and yet this world shoves things upon us even in our births and they call this thing genetics and etc. Yes we are born and bounded into a world and given few options to grow into, but a sorcerer has the greatest way because he/she can break through any cage. And does. Genetics are not bad knowledge, we are learning and cleaning ourselves now through it eradicating diseases mostly, as well as human enhancements. Yet it is not really even the genetics, for they too are cast into form from the formless and made into knowledge/awareness. It is our intent that sustains these systems only.

[Finwe]

Lujan Matus is a man like everyone else, if you guys anymore wish to hunt or haunt within this field,
you should prepare to give your own lives for it, because we Dragons does not rule Earth of no Reason,
in a language you understand the reflection you throw is the reflection you get and if I see here a single word against Lujan my brother,
I will personally make sure greatest shadows will haunt your souls, until you understand why it is better to be alone and that I mean in the worst sense, that is a shared dream, dreamed where the our battle is going to take place, for life and death, the bets are yours personal power, but if I were you, I would check your own pockets if you do not already own to someone at table, because you can't play against someone you are indebt in.

That is the only "Black Memory" phenomena haunted humans gets and everyone who does not understands that Dragon is rule for shadows, is haunted by the missing memory, only Dragon does returns and will to everyone prove by returning that memory, with the time emmanating from behind his back or the infinity coming from his belly, with those with memories sucked out, on it's wings as him to him.

[serloco]

ANd Finwe loses even more power now. Thype of person who deserves none. Lujan is a **** Fin so cry about it because that it all you can do is cry. You send anything t me and it will mine alone and sent right back at you. I am not afraid of shades, they love me and y gifts, You tho are not a threat. You do not have shades to send anymore. Its like you get a tiny bit of power and then you start mouthin off and threatening people. Retarded.

Missing memory is NOT YOURS, try to use it and it will hurt you. The memory device you saw me make is not your yours to use and you can not conjure it. I watched you try and you failed miserably. Keep on this track of trying to steal and abuse and you will left in hell and on fire. You also have no right tryig to give this "Black memry" to dragons are anyone. They will not have it even if you command they do. I have it and took it down **** so goofs like you can not use it. Tr it , I dare ya, and it will erase you.

[serloco]

I warn you not to even try once with memory charm, or you will be punished severely. I have made many memory charms and I am the one who knows how to use them. Just because you saw me use them does not give you the power to control them nor give them to others to control. You are banned from that ability.