Lujan Matus

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Form is finite, am talking to myself.

[Absyllyon]

Gugeyewalker wrote:That being said, the energetic configuration of nagual does not necessarily mean that person is more powerful, wise, or even has superior leadership skills. It could merely be the person that pulls everyone together, in spite of his or her flaws, and carries the group forward. Leadership 101 is that it is the individuals in the group that collectively give the leader his impetus, no the other way around.

Anyone that advertises themselves as a nagual - I run from. Instead of proclaiming to be naguals, why don't they actually demonstrate?

I am reminded of my kung fu instructor. He entered the room and never demanded discipline, suddenly the room would get serious and quiet, as if ready to work and learn. We said 'yes Sifu' because we felt compelled to. We pay attention because if we were doing a technique wrong we would get knocked to the floor when the application was demonstrated, and demonstrated very well.

Where are the Naguals? I've not met one, no one has demonstrated to me that they are, and the spirit has not made the arrangement.

And if all the stories about naguals are even half-true, they would be able to demonstrate something. I doubt this Lujan Matus (funny he chose such an obvious Castanadian name for marketing purposes, what a fraud, that alone gives him away) can demonstrate a damn thing.
Lujan managed to get Yuku to moderate my earlier post. What is this? When I cannot write what I see. What have I said about control issues and narcissism. It may bring attention onto a 3rd party, but it was your behaviour Lujan. A morsel of humility will go along way in preventing negative focus on your person, but it is really about presentation and glamour, right.
I don't mind, though I would have deleted the moderated information if Lujan had requested it.

[Absyllyon]

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yeah he cries like a baby and his group does not even see. they see lies.

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22 Jul 2018 15:30 #79
Absyllyon wrote: No need for me to worry about 'been cursed in a big way' as he already did that. He will eventually have to account for his words.
Upon writing this line I experienced a visceral sensation of release, a freeing of my attention from connection to him. It seems partial but non-the-less profound. It is a freedom hard fought from a battle long lasting. It is imperative to have a understanding of the mechanisms working behind the scenes of ones relationships and affiliations with others, groups, cults and gatherings of like sympathies. One must remember ones seeing. My battle to free myself from L.M must not only be fought publicly, but also internally with ritual destruction of his literature by fire and a complete cessation in using his syntax (which I have done).

The man will take responsibility for his words and actions and will reap the whirlwind of his own creations. To those who sympathize with him, suffering will be theirs in affiliating with him with less than than the required occult knowledge. I have no intent in waiting for him to 'shoot himself in the foot' so to speak and every intent on severing the psychic/energetic link established - a link that feeds his double which is not only a manifestation of his own intent and will but of all those people that have affiliations with him. His double is the product of a numerous peoples intent and proclivities all guided by his creed and fed by their blind adoration of him, or the mythic aura he projects. To see is to see through this and discover the reason that his double does not act as he does. To know and see his past students give insight into the character of his double.

[Absyllyon]

Ark of the Neon God

Quoted from the other LM thread of Nathanshere.

Kaomea:
I wonder what he'll do with all the energy he's harvesting from you.
I would build a boat.
A very large boat.
Maybe. An ark.


How extraodinarily perceptive and to the point. This is exactly what I saw - an island in the middle of a river that turned into a huge ship - a veritable 'Ark'. It is this vision that I spoke of publicly that brought on the events that eventually led to the creation of this thread.

Now I show you another ark in the video of this song as I move off into a type of silence whilst processing my penchant for worshiping 'neon gods'.

[Absyllyon]

Quote from the book Practical Kabbalah.

"We give the name Egragore to a Force generated by a powerful spiritual current and later fed at regular intervals, conforming to a rhythm in harmony with the Universal Life of the Cosmos, or to a meeting of Entities united by common characteristics.

In the Invisible, outside of the physical perception of Man, there exists artificial beings, generated by devotion, enthusiasm, or fanaticism, which we call egregores.  These are the hearts of the great spiritual currents, good or evil. The Mystical Church, Celestial Jerusalem, the Body of Christ, and all such titles, are the qualifications which give communion to the egregore of Catholicism. Freemasonry, Protestantism, Islam, and Buddhism have egregores. Great political ideologies have them too.

Psychically integrated through ritual initiation or through an intellectual adherence to these currents, the affiliate becomes one of the constituent cells. He augments the power of the egregore though the qualities or faults which he possesses, and in exchange, the egregore isolates him from the external forces of the physical world, and with the collective force it had previously stored, greatly enhances the feeble means of activity of the man who joins with it. Instinctively, popular language gives the name of 'circle' to an egregore, thus intuitively expressing the idea of a circuit. Between the constitutive cell and the egregore - that is to say, between the affiliate and the group - a sort of inner psychic circulation is thereby established.

This explains why opponents of such a concept, on studying the origin, nature and life of concept, often end by joining with it or at least by espousing a part of the theories, even without their knowledge. They are connected to a current, which, as it is more powerful than those who are primitively linked to it, carries them unknowingly away from the road that they imagined they were following. If they were free of any affiliation, this action would only be the more brutal and strong.
Death by Fire and Incineration of the Neon Gods I have nurtured.

One can experience a profound and vicious backlash upon leaving a group by ones own volition or even by exposing information that the egregore wants kept secret . It is only prudent to seek shelter in a group that can offer refuge for a time to protect oneself from assault.

There is a saying - When 2 or more of you are gathered, I am with you. The "I" is the egregore, the hidden confluence and not God, Jesus or Spirit.

It is enough to read an authors words with a feeling of devotion and appreciation to become linked to the authors egregore. In the same way as one nourishes the link one can destroy and cauterize this same link, by cutting the supply of nourishment; emotional-psychic energy. Have a ritual book burning, along with all effects associated with the author. Refuse to use their syntax or see life though their ideology. In this way one frees oneself from the influence and energy draining vampire.

It goes without saying that there are egregores that serve good as well. There are those that serve one for a time until one outgrows it. A point of absolute importance is to understand what it is one is doing and what one is connecting to and how it operates. The case is so with all groups, ideologies, teachings, multimedia, music  etc. Even so with ones own fascinations, fantasies, and fetishes. Think of the thought-forms we create and nurture. They exist on the material, astral and celestial levels of creation. With time they develop into egregores and even egregores with a semblance of individuation and will, which will eventually overthrow ones own will and came against its progenitor.

Much food for thought.

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