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Pixie- The belief is a critical achor attaching to the intruder. It's not like rain, which was programmed into your worldview. This belief I refer to is a conscious decision to accept some external influence. These are pretty weak and collapse when addressed. Unlike releasing our worldview description, which requires stopping the world.
SW, it's probably not death. By stalking in your recapitulation, you can find it. I usually start with old partners or a childhood self criticism pattern that has peaked. You know how to deal with these little interruptions! I'm reminded that most discord is temporary and as soon as we look outward instead of inward, these things dissolve. So take a class! Make new friends in new places. Make cookies and send them to me! Cookie-making is very healing!
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I second what Dok said about cookies..... and I wouldn't mind some cookies too 
(sorcery had a lovely cookie eating monster smiley in her previous incarnation)
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Dok, now you're talking my language...stop the world! And eat cookies 
Abs, nice quotes. Thanks for taking the time to share those with us.
SW, good! You're setting boundaries! I love secret societies. They're full of colorful people
WG, the cookie monster was my second favorite smiley how I miss them so!
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Silver Wind wrote:
When you know in your gut something wrong, you have to follow that. Whatever you all do here is wrong to me. I don’t respect a path that belittles, tricks, fools, and lies, to get personal gain. That is beneath me and what I follow. I am honest, at least in the essential way, doesn’t mean everything out of my mouth is the truth, but I support truthfulness, and speaking about things that help everyone, not just a few (secret groups). I didn’t come here for that. That’s not what I signed up for. I remove myself from everyone here, and anything to do with any of you. You lied and betrayed me, in so many ways. I do not accept the outcome you had planned for me. If you really, sincerely wanted me to benefit, you would have DIRECTLY shown me the keys to follow to get to a place of power. Instead you tried to trick me into something that is unwholesome. This is why I’m removing my energy and links from all of you this applies to.
And if you were decent people, you would not hold this post against me and blame me. Because I’m obviously speaking from the place of someone who’s just figured out they’ve been tricked, and what I thus need to now do. I’m leaving your influences, I do not choose to be used. I never agreed to being used, by ANYONE here. No one would ever chose such a thing, and no one should ever have to. It goes against the laws of nature, creation for all, and is evil. You say integrate the evil side. Yeah you say, you say...all of it lies.
Darling, we've all been the fool at some point. Each and every one of us. Not only you. We've all just decided to say fck it and roll with the ridiculousness. The secret to life is to stop taking it all so seriously. There's a lot of fcked up things happening in the world. Eventually, you make friends with Satan and throw back a beer with the bastard.
Reality is Hell. Heaven is something within our imagination, a song from the heart. Live wherever you want.
I tell ya what tho. All that blaming other people for your misery is just a bloody field of marshmallows. You are responsible for you. You can blame us or them, and I'll be the first to say that I certainly can be an @sshole. Other people behave like @ssholes too. It's a thing us humans do. We have a tendency to sht on other people when we feel badly on the inside. We get it. We're sorry you feel like sht. I think it's safe to assume many of us have felt like sht at some point too.
Keep in mind, we made no promises to be nice people! Tho some of us might hope to achieve such a perception.
Please please please please remember we did not promise to accommodate your needs. Most of us barely manage to accommodate our own needs. This site is not a place of business where customer satisfaction is the goal. We're just a bunch of humans figuring out life. You don't even donate money so you're not even a paying customer for our imaginary business! This is a hobby. Why you think any of us owe you your ideal experience with any of us is weeeeeeeeeeird.
There's no manager for you to complain to about our perceived lame behavior. If you don't align, you're not imprisoned here. Complaining to us about ourselves is silliness. We don't owe you anything but our awesome presence.
Anything more and I take PayPal, Visa, MasterCard, but not American Express.
You can't complain until you donate or contribute to the site as an admin or mod. Or...until you make really awesome (or funny) posts occasionally.
Stop asking us to be decent human beings. There's no such thing!
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"By stalking in your recapitulation, you can find it."
I agree with this, whole-heartedly It might be helpful to disengage from the forum for a bit (perhaps?) to clarify things.....to establish a clear space to identify what is going on. And then just connect with your inner seer to get some specific direction....what needs to be inwardly resolved/recapitulated.....and what needs to be externally dealt with. Let that inner voice guide you to the specific moment where the imposing force gained a foothold....to smooth that ground over. Your seer knows exactly what's going on....it just needs a quiet place/space to be heard.j
BTW, I think you're definitely on the right track when you say, "It's not who.....it's what". That right there helps us to take a step beyond confusion. Getting to the energetics of what is going on and letting your breath smooth the disruption from that level.
You've got this!
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Glance, always blowing sunshine up ppls ... dark spaces.
This brings up a question of ethics. When someone is being naughty, do we meet naughty with naughty, naughty with nice, or naughty with indifference?
We hit all those in this case. None are successful at easing the irritability. Are we going through the motions by saying something or nothing? We're just a bunch of voices, singing in our own key. Also, why did we care enough to offer good advice? Because we care about her or is it that we care about ourselves? When she tossed our concern for her aside, I wonder how we each felt, seeing that. I made some questionable funnies. Glance agreed with Dok... WG deflected.
We're an interesting bunch. Maybe SW can help us better understand.
SW, what will you do now? Did anything we said help your situation or change your mind? Do you see with greater clarity after being exposed to various perceptions? Let us know.
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When I made my cookie response I have not read what SW wrote on the previous page. I somehow just saw Dok's post and assumed that is the only new post. And I felt like cookies deserve a second fan .
Having read SW's post I don't think there is anything I can say. I also do not think it links much to this site as such. I offered a different type of help to SW over in RF just before she started writing in this thread. That offer stands, maybe SW will make use of it. It is up to her.
Pixie, I agree with most that you wrote in your post #54. Only reservations I have is 1) even if someone donates 5 or 10 bucks here it does not make us responsible for them and their well being. And 2) I think there indeed are decent human beings in this world . Plus 3) reality is not hell, it is what we make it. I prefer not to make it hell, but your preferences might be different  .
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That's nice of you. Hopefully she'll accept your assistance.
#2 I've not experienced a decent person. At some point everyone (I know) has been an @sshole. Maybe I need to live in a different country it could be just an American thing.
#3 oh you. Yeah, reality can be nice in the same way burning in eternity can feel like a tropical vacation. I guess there might be pockets of heaven available in reality...but they're few and far between tho maybe I'm just super jaded in my perspective because I've seen a lot of ugly. I dunno. I'm glad you think reality is ok. At least someone likes it lol.
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Silver Wind wrote:
If you really, sincerely wanted me to benefit, you would have DIRECTLY shown me the keys to follow to get to a place of power. Instead you tried to trick me into something that is unwholesome.
Lol, you remind me of myself demanding that all the answers be delivered to me on a plate to eat at my leisure. You must be like the Red Queen. Will it be off with our heads next?
"Bring me my grapes, you peasant or it will off with you head, I say. And when I get hold of your double it will be off with your head twice!"
What a tongue lashing you give. What indignation and outrage.
No hard feelings, I am just poking your ego a little, knowing full well that I am just the same.
The first key to power would be to divide your attention, one with the outrage and the other as observer. This other just observes everything dispassionately without trying to change anything.When you laugh and love, when you experience pain and anger this other observes through your eyes silently. The more often you do this the more powerful this other attention gets. Eventually you will start inhabiting this attention alternately with your ego. IOW you are consolidating power into this new magnetic center which is the beginning of the creation of the double.
If it was my post that triggered you with its length be assured that I put those quotes in there so you wouldn't have to hunt to hard. So Gurdjieff was a trickster and now they have all these schools that hold all the real information to themselves with out sharing. We can still draw on whatever sources are available to us. The stronger the consolidation of the magnetic center the more you will see your path. We as warriors need to draw on whatever resources we can and get as many points of view we are able. I don't know about you but for me the biggest challenge is trying to convince myself to do something such as dividing my attention. My ego just doesn't want to do any work, it demands that all be sunshine and leisure.
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No you didn’t trigger me. Your words resonate with me, including the first part.
@WG I just have to figure some things out. It’s not that I don’t appreciate getting help though.
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Sure SW, do what you think is best. We will be here later too (I hope)
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@pixie that wasn’t me who sent that pm. Ignore it, it’s lies.
I remove all energetic links and connections here. Enjoy your world, I will be no part of it.
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Easy peasy lemon squeezy.
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Update: I did a "Satanic Prayer of Protection" a while back. After 5-10mins, I noticed a difference but couldn't tell exactly what it was. Then I realized, I wasn't hearing the voice Lujan was using to speak to me at the time. Next day, I'm talking to my friend who I hadn't spoken to in a while about synchronicities and trying to help him with his situation with an entity bothering him and half way, I feel Lujan The Double sort of back up energetically and gave me the feeling of saying "You've got a point, I'll back down now" and since then, I've barely been hearing him speak to me. For several weeks prior, I had been contemplating suicide daily. It was annoyance.
Things haven't resolved fully, he still does things and says things but I've got so much more freedom. I don't hear him every minute of every day. Now I usually hear him every few hours, and still see him moving in front of me if I focus on the particles in the air infront of me. But usually, there is no disturbance of seeing him while I'm walking around places. I just remember that I used to see him all the time, focus my eyes infront of me, then I can see Lujan The Double standing there moving around.
I can see it now, behind my laptop standing over me but only because I started thinking about it and writing about it.
Life is getting better. Not sure if it was because we made a deal though, he himself said he wouldn't keep the deal 2 weeks prior to the date I expected him to stop. I don't remember why he said he wouldn't leave me alone, just because I ignored him or something small that I did that was insignificant.
Anyway, I barely hear him or notice him except for small instances throughout the day. Thank you everyone for your support and thoughts you sent out to me. I really appreciate it.
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I bought one of his audio books. something that was said in it sounded funny and struck me the wrong way so i stopped listening
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I am glad you're recovering some of your power back. Life is always better when the energy one gathers every night isn't harvested by black magicians.
A week after I posted about his affiliation with the CIA I was beset with high pitch ringing in both ears with an annoying variance in amplitude at irregular intervals. Along with this were hallucinations and weird sensations in my body. I truly felt like I had imbibed whatever Alice had partaken in. It lasted for a week, and confirmed for me that there are watchers that watch here. Magicians and sorcerers with their telekinetic powers and psychotronic machines.
If you are interested there is another resource you can draw on for the protection of your hamr (energy body) with a combination of defense and attack. It will also outline how magicians can influence others.
The book is titled Forbidden Parapsychology written by Jose M. Herrou Aragon.
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I sped read is latest book. In it he writes about the white light, the tunnel that leads you to the afterlife, the hub that is hyper-dimentional, vast geometry capable of unimaginable permutations that program the life and destiny of all beings and causes one to return to earth life. He saw the facial representation of this structure as a typical alien grey and called this structure benevolent; yeah right.
Benevolent for those who want to live life like a worker bee or ant and self generating automated slave master of the species for those who want individuated freedom.
It sounds very much like Phillip K. Dicks' V.A.L.I.S - Vast Automated Living Intelligence System. The Black Iron Prison, in whose maws we slave away generating a fine substance for the sustenance of beings that we call 'gods'. The Black Eagle is in no way benevolent to those such as us who would coat themselves in the consolidated glory of these finer energies through our own labor for our own individuation and freedom.
So there we have it - The Pied Piper of parallel perception.
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Are you jellyfishing about Lujan being CIA? Because if you are, don't be. The paperwork is worse for him than it is for the state police.
Don't envy him. He deserves your pity and compassion for the never ending pile of bullsht he deals with from people with opinions.
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Ps isn't it weird that Wolfie and Lujan are both involved with law enforcement? What if they're secretly besties? >.<
Is it just me or is it pretty great that Lujan wrote books and holds retreats for those seeking a spiritual outlet? Maybe Wolfie will write a book one day too? Wolfie and Shamanka could do a joint tantric retreat. That would be fun and insightful.
Hmm. I guess I'm just pointing out how productive Lujan is with his time. He's a mover and a shaker.
And here we are, talking about the man who is using his time wisely. He's focused on progressing himself. How marvelous for him! I could stand to be a bit more productive like him.
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Kaomea wrote:
Ps isn't it weird that Wolfie and Lujan are both involved with law enforcement? What if they're secretly besties? >.<
Is it just me or is it pretty great that Lujan wrote books and holds retreats for those seeking a spiritual outlet? Maybe Wolfie will write a book one day too? Wolfie and Shamanka could do a joint tantric retreat. That would be fun and insightful.
Hmm. I guess I'm just pointing out how productive Lujan is with his time. He's a mover and a shaker.
And here we are, talking about the man who is using his time wisely. He's focused on progressing himself. How marvelous for him! I could stand to be a bit more productive like him.
I am unaware of 'Wolfie' been in law enforcement and I never mentioned anything about law enforcement - I am inferring MILABS, psychotronic psy-ops remote monarch programming and microwave induced entrainment.
The growth of a cult is reinforced by the growth of the an etheric entity that vampirises the energy of students, neophytes and warriors. So sure, he is developing himself and his teaching which provides him a calling and income and also strengthens his egregore; his double.
I am pointing out to the unwary that there is a big price to pay in energy. He may seem to be a mover and shaker to you but to me he is a pied piper. A renegade asset who has been promised freedom in exchange for the conscious/subtle energy of others - and they are so agreeable.
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Firstly, the pied piper was screwed over by the mayor. Terms were violated. Should that occur, it becomes open season the point of the German tale is to pay your debts (do what you say you'll do) or accept your consequences. Well. I suppose one could whine about the consequences.
The mayor thought he could pull the wool over the piper's eyes. He tried. And that wasn't very kind.
So if Lujan is the pied piper, good for him for holding people accountable for their actions.
In Beauty and the Beast the witch tested the Prince and when he failed, she cursed him and his servants until the Prince changed his tune.
It's a very common theme. There are MILABS to ensure the mayors always pay the house. And once a mayor's name is on that list, they are never forgotten.
Lol. Someone needs to write a new age fairytale about MILABS and how they send out the muscle to collect unpaid debts.
Hahahahaha. Imagine that!
No, seriously. Don't screw over the pied piper or the benevolent witch. You risk being cursed. In a big way.
Fairytales are beautiful! They're parables for life, like the Bible, but for the non-religious folk.
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In a more serious tone, these tales are a reminder that there is always a higher power involved in the affairs of muggles. It's just what the house does. People kiss the ring, the hand wearing the ring accepts the kiss, and the kingdom remains at peace.
It's always a happy ending.
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Who is this pied piper anyway? He's just a dude, in a weird outfit, who shows up and claims to be able to fix the town. Mayor says yes, fix this sht! PP does and bam! Town be fixed!
Then the mayor says no payment is coming. PP takes a different form of payment to settle the exchange. He took the legacy. He brought sorrow to the town and the blame fell on the shoulders of the mayor who brought them their suffering. The people chose their leader wrong :*( The mayor led them into the fire. Bad mayor!
Now what happened to the children? Maybe PP drowned them in the river. Maybe he took them to a better town that was run by a respectable mayor. Who knows! It's a mystery.
In Beauty and the Beast all the servants and the Prince were returned to normal once they all learned a bit of humility and love. What's done can be undone.
But unless you understand how fairytales work (in our case, MILABS), one must do the inner work. It's an opportunity to refocus and do things in a better way.
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I probably should have reread that tale before making an analogy. What I remember of it was the p.p leading the townsfolk out of their town to somewhere unknown to them.
What I am alluding to is having a sense of who you are dealing with and been aware that the price for any affiliation might be destructive to ones well-being.
To me the p.p is someone who leads others astray. I will need to adjust my memory of the tale.
No need for me to worry about 'been cursed in a big way' as he already did that. He will eventually have to account for his words.
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