((( The Practical Seer )))

[Sacateca]

[Draco Fellicci]

I do not play games, it is a question of life and death and without accepting it in such manner by every moment, there is no progress, just a far away fantasy on which either is not enough willpower or seems pointless.
It is serious beyond comprehension and that leads directly to the the issue that people does not understand that it's all just a dream, which is not my make up.

It is my work, but I am not renting my ass, I keep it at the question of spirit.

[Littlepaw]

Would you know the meaning of laughter and joy?

Then come play with us now the game of life,

If you care to try! If you dare to lose!

Roll now, roll, roll again, roll the dice of life ...

... What can you lose, friend, but an empty life?

What can you win friend, but a full rich life?

[Sacateca]

Draco Fellicci wrote:I do not play games, it is a question of life and death and without accepting it in such manner by every moment, there is no progress, just a far away fantasy on which either is not enough willpower or seems pointless.
It is serious beyond comprehension and that leads directly to the the issue that people does not understand that it's all just a dream, which is not my make up.

I am already doin bussiness, with it.

How many 'lumps' do you want with that, Draco?

[serloco]

Now now Littlepaw, let me bring you back a little bit, to when we were sitting in chat together. I was talking about seeing and how I do it all the time, how it comes quite naturally for me. You said that seeing is this grand thing that blows you away, like it is one of the greatest experiences that one could never forget. You seemed to think it was something absolutely spectacular. You had built this idea in your head, in your expectations, that is so very high. What you implied to me then is that I too was a liar, or atleast that I was mistaken and hadnt really seen at all. Now that didnt really upset me because I know that i do, and in fact I tell you this because I can see the awareness that you come from in making these statements.

Now let me explain something about seeing energy. Not everything is spectacular to see in the universe, or in existence. Some things are quite dull in fact, but that does not mean you do not see them. Every time one sees they are not seeing the Eagle, or its emanations, which can be quite something I assure you, but sometimes all you are seeing is anothers awareness, anothers will, anothers rationality, decisions and reason, their tonal inventory, etc, which can be quite boring in fact. If you were seeing Genero hang off of his cliffs, suspended and seemingly floating in thin air as he leaped from spot to spot, you would see how he did that, which would not be typical knowledge, but another, more free and powerful configuration of energy, and THAT is something spectacular. However not all beings, and not all things in the world are a great feat to witness. I am sure you can imagine some normal people for example, and the common average tonals I am speaking about, and so I wont give an example.

Now I will speak a little about myself and how I used to be. I have always seen, although I didnt know it, wasnt aware that I saw. Once my girlfriend at the time had a tragic car accident and severely damaged her brain. She barely remembered who I was, and couldnt keep memories in her mind, nor could she solve problems anymore, or think too deeply. The doctors told me and her family that she would probably never fully recover and always be brain damaged. This talk spread around everyone who was around her, and they all spoke and upheld this truth. Every time I heard it something inside of me would cringe, and I saw that if we held to this idea and kept sustaining it, believing it, and spreading it that indeed she most likely would not recover. I could see that they were wrong. I wasnt upset by these people but i saw that i needed to get her away from them. They had all accepted that she was permanently damaged. So i removed her from her family and rented an apartment where I placed her into the bed and started to care for her. I followed what my seeing told me, and gave her the most positive reassurance I could give her all the time. She was scared and knew what the doctors said about her, but I assured her that time will heal her. I didnt really know what I was following then or what i was actually doing but i had set my intent and my awareness to a position that would heal her. I knew it was true what i saw inside of me. I barely had conscious awareness of what I saw but i still saw. Just like don Juan said the nagual Julian, and many other beings, could see but they didnt really know it. Anyways I followed what I saw and did what my instincts told me and she healed completely in about 6 months time. If she would have stayed in that negative environment hers, and the others assemblage position, would have fixated on that spot , their mind their belief, their awareness, and their intent all would have been set to the same outcome, and she would most likely not have healed.

Now that was before I even knew of seeing and since then have seen many things, including the Eagle and his emanations, and many alternate positions of reality.

Now I didnt make this post to say you are wrong about Draco, or that you shouldnt state what you see. I made it because of our chatroom discussion, and from what I see you are closing off to people's experiences of seeing because they dont align to your expectations of what seeing is. However your expectations are extremely high for seeing, and I wanted to share what I know of it. I am not a liar Littlepaw, nor am I mistaken about seeing. It simply is not always the grand spectacular event you have come to think of it as.

[Sacateca]

'Seeing' the wonders of Nature at its best is a marvelous sight indeed, but only if Nature approves of you and your lifestyle. If not, Nature tends to close itself off and you get no wondrous glimpses of your potential. Your true potential can only be realized by being on great terms with the Sentient, Conscious & Aware Universe. That means VIRTUE. The Universe respects those who are striving to live virtuous lives. It's more than a coincidence that all truly great religions that have stood the test of time encourage people to live virtuous lives. 
VIRTUE IS THE NATURE OF THE UNIVERSE

AND BEING ON GREAT TERMS WITH THE LIVING UNIVERSE

IS THE KEY TO UNLOCKING THE SECRET WONDERS TO BE DISCOVERED

'Seeing' humans who are spiritually and/or physically sick is no great sight. I mean, I don't bother trying to 'see' most of the people who shop at places like Walmart for it usually is the case that they are as, OR MORE, disgusting when you 'see' them as when you 'look' at them.

[Draco Fellicci]

Seeign is not expensive luxurious car or home, on which you save up whole life, so that you can boast for a few last moments and definitively its not orgasm.
Seeying is natural ability, if we come out of premise that everything is energy, otherwise anyway, there is no value in seing.
Siyng is about understanding intentions, causes of processes on level of energetical facts. Seeng comes from detachment.

[serloco]

I don't want to knock anyone's perceptions of intent so I won't. In fact I learned two things about it. The first is what don Juan taught me about it, that it is indifferent to a point that can seem as cold. There are so many possibilities and so many forms of the universe, awareness, and ultimately intent, that it can be anything. But at its essence it is everything and it is indifferent. You can make up awareness for it, and intend it to be nurturing, caring, loving, you can even say it hates evil, but that is your intent, and your perception. The truth is that in some positions it is mean and nasty and it couldn't care less about your 'goodness'. That is something you have aligned to from the raw potnetial, which can be good or bad, or beyond any conceptions of good and bad. I prefer a good world, a kind universe, a loving essence and so i have built this relationship as well, however when I was not this way, it still supported me, and taught me my evil ways. Why? Because it is indifferent. I intended it this way, and so it was and is. In its rawness it is everything and nothing , yet we align to what we perceive it to be. Our problem is that we draw answers from our experiences and think they are solid conclusions when in fact it is merely one position of awareness out of infinite potential.

[serloco]

Secondly, and I am sorry if I offend anyone, but I must speak of something i call setting up dreaming, or setting your intent. This is not only something to be done in dreaming but in the 'real' world as well. I have been in the same boat as you guys, perceiving people as disgusting because of self-importance and because of many things. But I learned something with my power and I posted it the thread titled "our fellow man", and I suggest reading it with an open mind. It takes awhile for the phrase 'reality is a position of awareness' to fully sink in and hit home. It is much more powerful then you realize. Just as the phrase 'suspend your judgements and stop the world' is. Its groundbreaking, quite literally. When you learn this you willl be able to set up your dream in the ways you want to set it up, you will be able to intend the people in your world, align to your awareness. If you are aware that people are disgusting then I suggest removing this judgement/awareness, and shifting into a new perception. It is actually quite disgusting to one who sees.

What makes you think people who shop at walmart or eat at mcdonalds are disgusting people? Is it self-importance? Is it the rigidity of your assemblage position that sees all people as the same? You prejudge everyone before you even know them? Before you even see them? Just for shopping at walmart? c'mon. What makes you so much better then everyone else? Because you read a book about sorcery? Why not practice it instead? Maybe, like a nagual, you can learn how to shift your awareness of people, shifting their awareness too. There are many ways to do this in fact, if you can take the responsibility for yourself, take the power for yourself.

don Juan once said people are mysterious beings. What does this mean to you? because I can tell you from my seeing that you dont have this awareness. He also said not to judge people as lowly because we all get the exact same chance as everyone else, at the one most important thing..... freedom. He said this to Carlos who judges the kids cleaning up the plates of others because they were poor.

Now thinking about your actual awareness, do you really think the universe, who you see as only supporting the good people, thinks that your 'disgusting' perception of people for shopping at walmart is worthy? Seems a tad bit negative to me, very judgmental and closed minded. High and mighty.

[Draco Fellicci]

I wont make such a elaborate psychoanalysis like you did so just a few points...

World is not just nice, , I dont see people in bad way, that was not the point neither meaning of my post, if you perceive any element of how people or world can look in such fashion, really not my problem... sorcerer is not concerned with ups and downs of worlds, but something far more greater - don juan said that himself too...

Far more negative than beign negative is beign negative bout negative, thats negative doublish so, right ?

Universe does not support only good people, universe supports evolution.

The worst judgment I ever heard of is, that something is 100% right, good and the only solutin.

[Sacateca]

I'd say it is no exaggeration to state that humanity is suffering from a literal PLAGUE of inorganic parasitic beings. There are all sorts of varieties of these 'buglike' creatures latching onto and breeding using the unwittingly moronic as their hosts. I often feel that a mercy killing of most of humanity, who are infected, should be the solution for this plague MUST NOT be allowed to spread into the rest of the galaxy!!

[serloco]

Draco Fellicci wrote:I wont make such a elaborate psychoanalysis like you did so just a few points...

World is not just nice, , I dont see people in bad way, that was not the point neither meaning of my post, if you perceive any element of how people or world can look in such fashion, really not my problem... sorcerer is not concerned with ups and downs of worlds, but something far more greater - don juan said that himself too...

Far more negative than beign negative is beign negative bout negative, thats negative doublish so, right ?

Universe does not support only good people, universe supports evolution.

The worst judgment I ever heard of is, that something is 100% right, good and the only solutin.
First of all this is your awareness not mine. A man tortures and rapes a small girl. And another person condemns this action as being wrong, harmful, and negative. You say the person who sees it as negative is worse. That is stupid draco.

[serloco]

Sacateca wrote:I'd say it is no exaggeration to state that humanity is suffering from a literal PLAGUE of inorganic parasitic beings. There are all sorts of varieties of these 'buglike' creatures latching onto and breeding using the unwittingly moronic as their hosts. I often feel that a mercy killing of most of humanity, who are infected, should be the solution for this plague MUST NOT be allowed to spread into the rest of the galaxy!!
That's only your own perception. That is not the world I see at all. I have broken my fixation to merely one position of reality and thank God too.

Mass mercy killings... OK hitler, good job.

That is why I do not let YOUR perception spread to me. THAT would be the real virus, the real threat.

[serloco]

Sacateca if you really want to help humanity, shift your awareness of it.

[Sacateca]

An unwittingly INFECTED person would react just as you have!
You think you are some great 'seer' and you obviously don't have so much as a clue that these etheric parasites are very real and spreading!!!

[Littlepaw]

Serloco,

My accusations began with Nagual Human and ended with Draco! If I thought you were a liar you would know now for sure because I would tell you directly! Did I not do so with Nagual Human and Draco?

Yes I do think you are mistaken! As an example, Your explanations about controling reality with your thoughts in my opinion are all wrong. I beleive you are talking about the interelationship of life which is something I know about. In my opinion I have gotten over this hurdle and you havn't. You think you are controling reality with your thoughts and I think that idea in of itself is crazy. Perhaps a person could control reality with their thoughts but that person in my opinion would need to be very powerful and i don't think you are that guy : )

I said in the chat room that I have only seen once/maybe twice and I explained that one occurance ended very quickly because I became very embarrassed. I aslo mentioned another event which likewise came to an abrupt end, namely I forced my self to forget what I just expereinced.

Nearly everything I have seen of the Shamans world has come with allot of disbeleife and powerful emotions such as fear, embarisment, denial, euphoria, many mistakes and much confussion. These, Serloco are my EXPERIENCES! not my EXPECTATIONS. If you experience seeing as Dull then maybe you are the one who is closing off to experiences because they do not align to your expectations.

[Draco Fellicci]

To Serloco - Sure, absolutely, I do not know what makes you think that is not clear...

To all of you  - What I only say is and stand for as truth not a single one of you suckers can deny is that who gives of energy to care of such petty, sure things is just maintaining selfimportanstances, whilst could use the energy on "magic", and by petty things I does not mean personal value of such, but loop perpetuation, no matter its origin.
We grow by bouncing out of known and by graspin the unknown, not by standin on place, beign worried bout and crawling back into nutshell everytime even the slightest wind blows, every moment. That is the warriors decision.

[serloco]

Sacateca wrote:An unwittingly INFECTED person would react just as you have!

You think you are some great 'seer' and you obviously don't have so much as a clue that these etheric parasites are very real and spreading!!!
Oh I see how it is. Take on your perception as the only truth of reality or else I am sick and infected. Never mind our actual sorcery teachings about stopping the world, shifting reality to another position, freedom, etc.

You think i can't see your awareness? I believe you entirely, that is what you see and what you intend. That is YOUR perception, the world you are captive within. You assume we all are within your bubble right? That we all see the same world right? Nevermind shifting perceptions, fluidity, and reality is awareness. Just ignore all that right? There is nothin gyou can do right? So kill them all. haha. Not very resourceful are you. I try to give you a heads up, a way to be free of your awareness, but you call me infected and clueless just like all the people you judge. Enslaved by the very awareness you hate. But i will tell you a secret, I am not enslaved in your narrow view of the word regardless of how fixated you are. So my friend you are wrong.

[serloco]

Littlepaw wrote:Serloco,

My accusations began with Nagual Human and ended with Draco! If I thought you were a liar you would know now for sure because I would tell you directly! Did I not do so with Nagual Human and Draco?

Yes I do think you are mistaken! As an example, Your explanations about controling reality with your thoughts in my opinion are all wrong. I beleive you are talking about the interelationship of life which is something I know about. In my opinion I have gotten over this hurdle and you havn't. You think you are controling reality with your thoughts and I think that idea in of itself is crazy. Perhaps a person could control reality with their thoughts but that person in my opinion would need to be very powerful and i don't think you are that guy : )

I said in the chat room that I have only seen once/maybe twice and I explained that one occurance ended very quickly because I became very embarrassed. I aslo mentioned another event which likewise came to an abrupt end, namely I forced my self to forget what I just expereinced.

Nearly everything I have seen of the Shamans world has come with allot of disbeleife and powerful emotions such as fear, embarisment, denial, euphoria, many mistakes and much confussion. These, Serloco are my EXPERIENCES! not my EXPECTATIONS. If you experience seeing as Dull then maybe you are the one who is closing off to experiences because they do not align to your expectations.
You called me a liar again Littlepaw. Just like what I see. Thats right see. I don't need your words to see that you think i am a liar, just like i said... you think i am a liar. Then you come on here saying that you dont think i am a liar, or you would have told me, then you go ahead and call me one? Does that make sense? Read your post and tell me you are not perceiving me a liar? Is that your answer to everything? People are weak and small minded, and cannot accomplish feats of awareness? That sucks dude. I live in a magical world, atleast i go there often, because I suspend my judgments of them, and become aware of a world of potentisl for everyone, where people are strong and capable beings. Where we share awareness because we are connected together. But in your eyes that is just another lie right? People cant do great things, they must be lieing. I wont take offense to it tho, sure it may be hard to believe, I am just glad I found these truths for myself, and when i share them with others, in hopes they too will learn this magical potential and world, and they instead call me a liar, then so be it. In reality it doesnt take anything away from me at all. I still see and do what I do regardless of your belief.

Some things are dull Littlepaw, and no i did not say seeing is dull, but thank you for twisting my words into your lie so you can be right. No, I said some things are not miraculous to see directly, and some things are. It depends on what you are seeing. But dont take my word for it I am just a liar. Right? You lose wisdom, knowledge and truth because you are stuck in your perception and your judgements. This is why you do not see.

[serloco]

Littlepaw wrote:Serloco,

If I thought you were a liar you would know now for sure because I would tell you directly!

Perhaps a person could control reality with their thoughts but that person in my opinion would need to be very powerful and i don't think you are that guy : )


 
So you are a liar Littlepaw. You said you would call me one directly. Then you indirectly call me a liar.

[serloco]

serloco wrote:
Littlepaw wrote:Serloco,

If I thought you were a liar you would know now for sure because I would tell you directly!

Perhaps a person could control reality with their thoughts but that person in my opinion would need to be very powerful and i don't think you are that guy : )



 
So you are a liar Littlepaw. You said you would call me one directly. Then you indirectly call me a liar.
I dont blame you. You didnt have the selfawareness to even know what you truly thought, how you truly felt. I think you believed what you wrote. Meanwhile the entire time in your mind i was a liar, just like everyone else in your world who claims power.

[Sacateca]

Whether you realize it not
this etheric inorganic parasitic 'flyer' stuff

is very, very real!!!

it comes in many varieties whether you believe it or not!!

I've learned that we humans have a type of

'pilot light' that is a natural defense, however

there are forces doing their best to keep our lights

so dim that they never shine brightly enough to protect most

The dimwits who cannot truly 'see'

are the perfect prey!!!

[Sacateca]

Whether you realize it not
this etheric inorganic parasitic 'flyer' stuff

is very, very real!!!

it comes in many varieties whether you believe it or not!!

I've learned that we humans have a type of

'pilot light' that is a natural defense, however

there are forces doing their best to keep our lights

so dim that they never shine brightly enough to protect most

The dimwits who cannot truly 'see'

are the perfect prey!!!

[Sacateca]

You may feel since you don't 'see' them
that makes it just my imagination

Well, you just keep thinking that

I AM NOT YOUR HERO!!

[Sacateca]

I CANNOT MAKE YOUR LIGHT 
SHINE FOR YOU!!