autonomy

[transitions4]

good example sacateca, what you wrote shows what i am saying, how you were giving power to external influences (invisible entities), how you called them invisible (gave them power to be unseen) and reacted as a victim, your reactions flued the entity (you have created this situation yourself and perpetuated its existence)

you're not giving yourself power to change the situation, to shift to a different position, ("at my current personal power level"), i see you are trying to tolerate the situation as an ongoing thing, rather than dealing with it.

einstein said no problem can be solved from the same level of consciousness that created it, the way i see it you have to rise above, and take back control here, not by 'force', thru intending easy solutions, suspend judgement instead of reacting wildly, and look for the answers in inner silence

[transitions4]

on your own, a lone wolf, means that you have to trust yourself, after years of the effect of external influences on your awareness it is quite weird and scary when you find yourself on your own left to follow your own devices, you have a link with spirit and spirit guides you, at this point you have to trust in the unknown, you intend good positive things, suspend judgement and trust, the force of your perception can mold reality even forces i have found for myself, the unknown can be what you want it to be, it is full of potential for so many possible futures.

going back to stalking autonomy, i see it is trusting yourself, your power, not giving power away to external influences, not allowing them to affect you, trusting yourself to react well when faced with challenges, approaching challenges by finding solutions thru suspending judgements in a position of inner silence, listening for silent knowledge..
autonomy means you are hooked only to the abstract, and i found that falling in love with the abstract is a beautiful way of describing what happens here.
heres a poem i just wrote for you all.i sit in a tree by the ocean
watching and learning
the breath of spirit gently moves me
the sound of the waves lulls me
as i sink into this joy of motion
i will always hold in my heart
this view of the ocean

[Sacateca]

I've been putting up with these shenanigans for YEARS!!!I used to get much more angry. Now I'm DELIBERATELY becoming more complacent.
I am convinced the only way I can get revenge is to be calm
and simply buy new items rather than go stir crazy looking for the ones hidden.

I did my best to recapitulate the situation with that missing house key.
Are you saying that I somehow hid it RIGHT THERE IN PLAIN SIGHT???
Are you saying I manifested the big black bumblebee that JUST SO HAPPENED to be hovering right over the key???

I DON'T THINK SO!!!!!

SOMETHING INVISIBLE IS GOING ON!!!

AND I INTEND TO STOP THIS FUCKING PRANKSTER ****!!!!

Apparently, you feel there are no inorganic beings that can act upon people.
So was Castaneda's attitude until don Juan put him in situations where Castaneda had NO CHOICE
except to realize such beings actually exist!!!

[Genardo Sacateca]

I've asked people and have found that I am not unique in this.MANY PEOPLE often find themselves in situations where they put something down
come back and can't find it for hours.

I am not unique in this

Most just write it off as coincidence, but I KNOW'
there is more than "coincidence" going on here with me!!!

AND I'M DOING SOMETHING ABOUT IT!!!

[Sacateca]

transitions4 wrote:good example sacateca, what you wrote shows what i am saying, how you were giving power to external influences (invisible entities), how you called them invisible (gave them power to be unseen) and reacted as a victim, your reactions flued the entity (you have created this situation yourself and perpetuated its existence)

you're not giving yourself power to change the situation, to shift to a different position, ("at my current personal power level"), i see you are trying to tolerate the situation as an ongoing thing, rather than dealing with it.

einstein said no problem can be solved from the same level of consciousness that created it, the way i see it you have to rise above, and take back control here, not by 'force', thru intending easy solutions, suspend judgement instead of reacting wildly, and look for the answers in inner silence

 You seem to think you have it all figured out.I feel you are indulging in blindly believing you have all the answers.
We are not the same. I sense you DO NOT workout and you are NOT a Martial Artist.
I sense you are an armchair warrior.

This is a breed of modern warrior that Carlos Castaneda has given rise to. 
The New Age 'armchair warriors' who think they are ACTUAL warriors.

Here is a photo I took of SOME of my Martial Arts weapons:







This is a photo of me with my two Chinese Butterfly swords
that are in the center of the above photo:






If someone pulls a physical prank on you there is more than just your imagination involved.

SOMEONE actually DID SOMETHING!!!!!!

[Genardo Sacateca]

I've learned that every success in the Spirit, or lack thereof, is determined bythe amount of Personal Power one has stored. It is the same in Martial Arts.
Personal Power is another name for the Vital Forces.
In some countries it is called: Chi
In others: Ki
In others: Prana
In others: Mana
On and on and on.

Personal Power is like money in that the more you have the more you can buy.
The less you have the less you can buy.

Getting stronger, in the Spirit, involves deliberate living,
striving for impeccability in all thoughts, words and actions.

I KNOW FOR A FACT that if am am more impeccable in all I do
these invisible pranksters will find it more difficult to pull these pranks on me.
They are FORCING ME to become more impeccable and not letting me get away
with sloppy living!

They are indeed my invisible Petty Tyrants and I intend
to turn their tricks right back on them!!!

[Genardo Sacateca]

I want to apologize to you for posting too much on your topic thread.I transferred a number of the posts I created to my topic thread.
I don't feel it's right for me to post too much on your created topic thread.

SOMETHING AMAZING HAPPENED,

but I will share it on my created topic thread, not here

UPDATE:

It seems obvious you don't believe the Spirit has a will of its own.
It seems you feel how the Spirit acts is always determined by my intention.
That's like saying if the government creates a new law the only reason it did so
was because I unwittingly intended it

I feel there is much more going on than just my intention.
The Spirit is determined to get what it wants whether I am comfortable with that or not.
It's not always my intention that dictates the actions of the Spirit.

THE SPIRIT CALLS ALL THE SHOTS!!!

Whether you or I like it or not.

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[transitions4]

no apologies necessary..

i said in the previous post 'you find yourself on your own left to follow your own devices, you have a link with spirit and spirit guides you', clearly i am aware that spirit has will, it is guiding me, spirit could not guide me without a will of its own - i am finding that spirit is the one influence in my life, following this path of autonomy. spirit is linked with intent, i had to dust the link with spirit, this allows spirit to intervene in my life, to guide me.

through spirit's guidance i find my intent has strength, i found that spirit guides me to intend what is best for me, and teaches me the lessons i need to learn, the spirit is a perfect teacher and this is why the student first meets the nagual, spirit intervenes in their life, the nagual helps them dust their link with spirit, and the student learns from spirit directly from then on

oh i do love it that spirit calls the shots, i have found that in my life the only times i have been angry or miserable or whatever were the times i was ignorant of spirit's intervention and blocked those perceptions, its how i created hell in my own life and i learnt that lesson, and i will not be repeating that mistake.

im not quite perfect just yet tho, since i started intending spirit teach me effortlessness, ease and wellbeing, i have found my life has improved a lot, i shifted my world and now things are easy, i see that for me - in my life - i can achieve a point where spirit moves me in beautiful ways, and i can create a world that is full of love and every being here will move to that energy, spirit showed me that love is the driving force of the universe anyway regardless of what anyone believes- the beatles said love is all you need, i remember my world was like this at one point in my life, and alas i got lost, yet i know that it is possible to change my world through the force of perception and this is what spirit is guiding me to do, spirit is showing me that life should be beautiful and awesome, and learning easy and fun, this is my dream anyway.

[transitions4]

you also mentioned you believed your experience to be iobs. in my xp of iobs, i had a bad time, i set them up as tricksters and they would affect my life in infuriating ways, this was due to don juans awareness - he said not to trust them, it took me years of struggling, yet i found he was wrong, serloco showed me ally, and how to do what don juan said sorcerers do - turn iobs into allies, yet serloco showed me more, he showed me that iobs fill the gourd you give them, if you intend them to be tricksters that is the role they assume in your awareness, you will attract trickster iobs. iobs are like shells, formed from dark energy, you can intend them to be whatever you want them to be , serloco showed me and spirit guided me perfectly here, allies are powerful helpers, if you intend them to come to you as helpers, and it is my intent that makes them helpers to me, i learn and gain power from acting with spirit, with spirit guiding me, allies can help me learn things as well, but the point here is that i claim all the knowledge as my power, it is all 'me', really.. my ally shows me how to do things,  yet i know that i am completely self-reliant, i dont need allies yet they are friends and helpers to me.

i found that iobs shifted as my awareness shifted, as soon as i trusted them to be helpers thats what they became to me, the world conforms to the description imposed.

[serloco]

I remember long ago, I had known of iobs and worked with them for a few years already. I had gone into their world countless times and often lived there. I had a relationship already made. Then one day I got really fluid and found large amount of power. My awareness had shifted regarding iobs. I somehow believed that I had never really met them and what I thought was iobs was really a position of humans in the second attention. Since humans were different in the second attention for me I realized I had never known iobs before. I called out to them and I didnt know what they were and my attention quickly shifted to see them as aliens. Soon enough they showed up in alien ways and took me away. I was probed and dissected. I remember coming home after the abduction and looking at my hands, at the incisions that were made. That entire experience I had forgotten later for a long time. Dark energy beings can take on any projection you assign to them. Whatever awareness you embrace. I don't recommend the alien route.

[Sacateca]

In other words you found YOU WERE MISTAKEN!!!You should not blindly believe that you are not still being mistaken.

I am always ready to find I am wrong about ANYTHING I currently believe.
This serves me well. Those who are always certain they are correct
have surrendered to their 'clarity' and have been defeated'
on the path of knowledge

I don't want to post too much on this topic thread.
I created another post that I shared on my topic thread instead of here.
It is regarding your comments, Transitions4

[Genardo Sacateca]

These inorganic beings don't just let you goThey hook you like a fisherman hooks a fish
If you spent YEARS in their company....****!!!

They've probably just let you think you escaped them
by letting out the proverbial 'fishing line'
Dealing with the second attention can be..

EXTREMELY DANGEROUS!!!

THIS IS NO FRIGGIN BABY WARRIOR GAME!!!

[transitions4]

in the film kung fu panda, the teacher says 'there are no mistakes', this position is very powerful, it shows that reality is perfect - it is only our judgements that make us perceive flaws or mistakes.
I am always ready to find I am wrong about ANYTHING I currently believe.
there was a time when i used to believe in things, now i see - i do not really hold beliefs, spirit shows me perfectly what i focus my seeing on, i am practical and i act with spirit, not with beliefs, i use my seeing so that i am not judging and i am seeing the essence of what it is im focused on, the reality, do you not use your seeing to cut through the bullshit? i suspend my beliefs and judgements and see.

yes i know that to indulge or to 'surrender to clarity' is not good.. that is not the only other option.  you forgot seeing.

your second message contained a lot of don juan's awareness of iobs, i have found that he did not have good awareness of them, he held beliefs that were limiting and detrimental to his progress in this field, he admitted this. what i have been saying is that iobs fill the gourd you set for them, if you intend 'fishermen', 'trappers', 'tricksters', that is the kind of being you will draw to yourself, i do not intend anything like that, i intend them to be allies, and i have found that my interactions with iobs have been joyful and learning experiences, a mutual exchange of energy. i have learnt it is a matter of power yes, and i have seen that you give the iobs power to do all of this 'trapping' and 'tricking' to you, and that if you were to take that power back, and say that you are in control of your own life always - that they cant do that to you, you are too strong and they are weak, then that is what they will be, who is in command of the situation is it you or is it the iobs? in reality you are in command, not them, you are more powerful.

you say that the second attention is dangerous, like you judged iobs to be, and you have also said that 'dislodging' someones ap is dangerous too. like serloco said, why would you make this dangerous?

i know that it may seem obvious but spirit teaches you in the way that you set, i intend that spirit teaches me perfectly, spirit can cater to your awareness and can make things so easy for you, yet you are intending all of this danger. the unknown contains everything and nothing, it can be anything, if you intend it to be somewhere dangerous then that is what it will be, that is what i found.

i always found that don juan was right about not bringing morbid awareness to the table, he said that i should treat my journeys into the second attention as fun. he was definitely right with this.
Send a feeling of power and confidence to them, a feeling of strength, of
detachment. Avoid at any cost sending a feeling of fear or morbidity. They are pretty morbid by
themselves; to add your morbidity to them is unnecessary, to say the least."

--
Dreaming has to be
performed with integrity and seriousness, but in the midst of laughter and with the confidence of
someone who doesn't have a worry in the world

- from Art of Dreaming

[transitions4]

this documentary is well worth watching, alan moore is a great character and an amazing writer.. the theme of this documentary is autonomy and alan moore is a good example of someone who has found this position.

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[serloco]

Whatever you do don't call them morbid.. They sit, hanging on the edge of your dream world, listening like death is, to your judgements.

[Genardo Sacateca]

Whatever.
I might as well talk to a brick wall

[serloco]

Iobs. They have not just one form, they do not only move in one way. Iobs, have places and forms all over the dreamscape. You ay have heard that iobs teach you to move them. To move people too. That's the thing. They teach you that if you call an iob mean then they will be mean. If you call them catering teachers then they will be catering teachers. Don Juan's awareness of the iobs is not the only shirt they dress up in, however indeed if you cling to don Juan's dream then you will see it that way. You will move them to that position. Movement of iobs and humans is an art form. There is so much to it. I used to tread water in don juans awareness. Black magicians, tellers seeking to control your dream, tricksters and thieves. It took me one realization to get out. I am unique and have my own dreaming energies to shape for myself. Yes you dream. The careful art of stalking means you must control your gaze, your judgments, your life giving energies. You dream the form of awareness. You craft and shape. Or, like a sheep, you dive into the hell pit of don Juan's gourd, and you run away like a lil baby.

[serloco]

Iobs need you. They eed you to give them form, they cast the projection from the basis that yous set for them. I remember having some old iobs, from the don Juan dream, follow me and try to trap me. I shifted to a position that saw iobs as empty, needing your form. I decided to stop believing in them. Belief is a form of will. It has great power if you grant it. It moves iobs, and the world into formation. I denied the old iobs form. They disappeared when I did so. Just a simple movement. The new iobs I saw hated to be called iobs. They knew that the old don Juan awareness was failing them in my dream. I no longer supported them. I wanted nothing to do with them. Naturally they catered and even said they would eliminate the old forms, and give way to a new reality of shared existence. The new iob allies of my own, were freedom based. They rejected any judgment that was not for freedom and perfection. I tested them many times. Had bad judgments, bad ideas, bad motions, and every time they rejected the motion. They stand me up and help me out if I need it. They set me to a world of freedom. They teach me the art of freedom. I remember sitting before a councel of iobs, old iobs. I told them all that I would move thm to teach me freedom. They didnt believe I could do it. I knew though for myself and the drunk nagual walked right in, and set them all to death. I made them want to die. I made them feel sorry for the pain they put me through. I ran int their worlds and set many of the trapped dreamers free. With my God. It was a horrendous battle. In the end I set up new allies form the iob world, and they denounced the old don Juan awareness. They still do. But maybe yours Sacateca will keep it for you, since your life blood so supports that way. I would recheck yourself if i were you. I would SUSPEND judgement, and reset your dreaming energies. Good luck. Oh I know, I could be MISTAKEN. Or, perhaps, its YOU who is mistaken.

[Genardo Sacateca]

ONCE THEY HOOK YOU THEY DO NOT LET GO!!!
YOU MAY 'THINK' THEY DO, BUT THEY DO NOT!!!

[serloco]

Oh sure. A brick wall. Thank you for that compliment. I am very happy for it. That is exactly my intent, not to move to your energies. You say for yourself, admitingly that your world is hell. Been there done that. I would never move back. Since you are so attached to don Juan's dream I will use some of his words to prove you wrong. When the sorcerer apprentice reaches a certain point where the energy body can do what it wants and intends, then the dreamer is far beyond the reach of iobs, and they give up. Thank you don Juan. Truth. That, and if you give them power then that is your choice, however a good dreamer does not give power out to anyone he does not want to give it out to.

[serloco]

I think, therefor I am. To be, or not to be.. That is the question, the choice.

[serloco]

[Sacateca]

serloco wrote:Oh sure. A brick wall. Thank you for that compliment. I am very happy for it. That is exactly my intent, not to move to your energies. You say for yourself, admitingly that your world is hell. Been there done that. I would never move back. Since you are so attached to don Juan's dream I will use some of his words to prove you wrong. When the sorcerer apprentice reaches a certain point where the energy body can do what it wants and intends, then the dreamer is far beyond the reach of iobs, and they give up. Thank you don Juan. Truth. That, and if you give them power then that is your choice, however a good dreamer does not give power out to anyone he does not want to give it out to.
My life is not always hell. Just when the Spirit turns prankster or when I am once again made painfully aware that I am not strong enough to do all I want to do in life.There is no possible way I will get as strong as I need to become if the Spirit does not FORCE ME to get stronger. If my life is hell it is only because I am still too weak
and not impeccable enough in all that I do. The more impeccable I become the more difficult it becomes for the Spirit to hide things.
The feeling I get when things are hidden is: 'If you want me to stop doing these things get strong enough and STOP ME!!'
So, it is a means of showing me that I am still not strong and impeccable enough in all I do.

Let me give you an example:

I had those keys, that were hidden by the Spirit, in a special pack I use when I go jogging.
I put the keys in a special side pouch that closes with Velcro. 
I noticed that it wasn't closing securely enough and needed new soft Velcro material.
I had already thought that those keys might fall out, but I put off fixing it
and right after that is when my keys fell out, in the house, and were lost.

So, the Spirit gave me a warning that I put off and didn't act upon BEFORE the keys were hidden

I am well compensated for what the Spirit puts me through!


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[Genardo Sacateca]

serloco wrote:Oh sure. A brick wall. Thank you for that compliment. I am very happy for it. You have obviously been defeated by 'clarity' on the the Path of Knowledge. You think you know it all.

I am ALWAYS READY to find I am incorrect

YOU ARE NOT!!!

That is a big difference between us

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