Rule of the Eagle

[serloco]

I am extremely happy being who I am an what I know. I am not looking for a teacher nor an iob to enter into... you have too many tricks and the knowledge you offer forcefully i do not accept.

[Finwe]

Iob's cannot be intered into, other than in their world, where the second kind of inorganic beign, that is the tunnel, only exists.

Inorganic beings, that are projecting themselves into our world, on earth, are the first kind the "scouts", who can take you into their world or any other of the 10 dimensions of dreamplanes. These two types of beigns are in comparement to organic beigns in similiar relation like females and males - tunnels and scouts, who in the inorganic world, function similiary as the wasp workwomans.

If you see, here an inorganic beign you can enter to, your dreaming body is not on earth and actually stationed within Iob's inorganic world, which you have must intended, from free decision. Please tell me if this is the case, as you are nagualist of freedom and thus my brother, I will do everything to get you of there, as in that world, freedom for human beigns does not exists. I offer you help as it is my duty as nagual of earth, nonetheless you are most likely to reject it. Power they offer, only to cater to sorcerers self-importance to keep them giving them organic energy in exchange for inorganic energy, yet disabling freedom in the process as the sorcerer's body gets accostumed to the inorganic world, which for organic beings has none.

No matter what you think in this dream now, your double is/was/will be stationed on the Tree realm, already and sooner or later you will recapitulate - recapitulated these instances as you do/done and I made sure are happening, already happened or will. The issue you are having here is purely of timely perception, if you wish, please share here, what exactly you do not understand about time-traveling in relation to what Spirit orders me to do, so that we find mutual agreement through future/present/past, of this forum's time burrow, without any more inclarities and shadows of doubt of the Spirit's will.

[Finwe]

I would help you directly, on accord of my seeing, if you would not distance from me on accord of the unknown I as nagual of earth present and your known shield itself against, by the distance your known sees me as the difference between you and me and the actual non-connectivity, as I told once to Lujan, after he told me "I doesn't know you, I know myself", I said "By knowing yourself, you know me".

[serloco]

Wrong. You can not move me with your projections.. Nor can you claim my awareness as your own.. That trick doesn't work with me, sorry bout that. Good luck, you do not see well either.. You prove it all the time too. Yes you see some things yes, but not everything.. You awareness of don Juan teaching with only his mind to his apprentices proves you are not don Juan like you claimed and it proves you do not see. Your awareness of being Earth nagual is not right to me either, and is display of monumental self-importance and blindness. You do not see the true rule of the Eagle in claiming the world is alll yours. You do not see that it is merely one dreaming position only. You trap yourself. Good luck. And besides it is my position of awareness that you merely tried to claim for yourself upon seeeing my awareness. Like odn Juan said people are out t bid for yuour awareness, i see you as erely a trick and a trap and I give you nothing.

[Finwe]

That is all I require of you..
From now on, for forever.

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[Finwe]

From now on, for forever.

[serloco]

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[Finwe]

You see in me only reflection of yourself.

[serloco]

Very wrong.

[Finwe]

Exactly.

[serloco]

All the things about iobs you said is merely a regurgitation of don Juan's lessons.. I have been in the shadow world a very great deal, and many different allies as well.. Yes entering into allies is something i do very often, but have much more knowledge of them then don Juan's books told us of them. I have been within the iob world for many years now, and my attention is almost always in those realms. Iob's come in many forms and not just the ones you have read of. There are many iobs who prefer the energy of freedom and not just trapping and keeping and demanding as you are accustomed to through don Juan's expectations. The Labrynth of Penumbra is merely one realm of many. I have many different allies at any given moment that I can enter into, and a great many positions of awareness that I use on a daily basis. I appreciate the effort of saying I need you help you offer, but I assure you if I wante the help you offer i could accept it, but I do not. YOu merely say what I already have known long ago about don Juan. I understand this is largely a Castaneda forum but it is ost importantly a sorcery forum and not merely the beginning lessons of don Juan for Carlos. The world of sorcery is much larger then that. I do not work with the iobs of don Juan's experience and work with many other forms of inorganic awareness. My awareness is largly inorganic itself from my association with my own allies and choices.. And yes they are all my choices that I made.

[serloco]

here I will use don Juan's own knowledge to show you how you are being a fool. Alies r brought into this world, from the ally world by using water (fluidity) and a mirror (reflection). Now yourself, being the almighty earth fool, shines his fluid awareness onto the freely moving ally to reflect this "trap me and trick me and use me for your own gain", and so now your refflected ally movves to that beat, to your own intent and awareness of the ally.. good luck with that. and ohhhh boy no thanks for the help.. the only place i encounter those allies anymore is here, with your dreaming energies. My allies hate them and say "no we are not that way" if ever i even think of those beings.

[Finwe]

First, stop being rude it is not polite and only makes you look like a fool, because noone else has a need to be rude, thus foolish on others, then fool.
Speak your point clearly, I am reflecting void and use no allies. While you as you say do not. You are unable to see that only because they got you up to your ears and if they would not have you, my dreaming energies would be clear and natural for you as of any other human being, should be. The reason of this fact you have even written yourself, in your last reply.

[serloco]

I hate myself, no matter what you say.. I am not kind because you constantly push the very perceptions I HATE which is being trapped and tricked which i am not. No matter how many ties you push it onto me, and how many different ways you say, it is not true, nor will it be. MY ALLIES LIKE FOR ME TO BE FREE PERIOD.

*have myself.. yes I love myself very much.. narcasistic actually.

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[serloco]

*have myself.. yes I love myself very much.. narcasistic actually.

[serloco]

You should go over to your lover's forum over a PP, they all get the hate on for allies, you would fit right in.. You can *** each other up the ass and give each over head. HAHAHAA!!!

[Finwe]

Truth destroys illussions and burn those creating them. IB's cannot ever give human freedom, because they does not have heart, we are actually their only way to freedom and it costs us our own freedom. Your emotional theatre here is an excelent example of how they can even take over us if we let them and have them for something they never were.

[serloco]

The ally is everything, that includes every form of heart u could imagine.

YOu know nothing of allies.. I have a garden of eden creation kit from mine... Lets me take any attributes from any woman and place them altogether into almost any woman I want. I can take the love from say 6 different women and put it into one woman for me... SOme of my allies can even shapeshift their appearances so to look like and take attributes form the sexiest woman in my world. Then shift between them.

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[serloco]

YOu know nothing of allies.. I have a garden of eden creation kit from mine... Lets me take any attributes from any woman and place them altogether into almost any woman I want. I can take the love from say 6 different women and put it into one woman for me... SOme of my allies can even shapeshift their appearances so to look like and take attributes form the sexiest woman in my world. Then shift between them.

[Finwe]

Thats what I am saying also, they are able to give you anything, except showing you your own heart and letting you be one with it. Once they would, if they would even can, you would realize you never needed them.


Stop boasting here, there are many other forums where you can masturbate. This forum is here because of knowledge.

Heart has only its path and does not imagines anything, heart just is, and beyond that, it is all mind, which only is able to reflect and twist anything to it's underlying purpose, heart only is by itself that's not even reflection, thats the way it's way is.
If ally is everything,your heart is nothing.

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[Finwe]

Heart has only its path and does not imagines anything, heart just is, and beyond that, it is all mind, which only is able to reflect and twist anything to it's underlying purpose, heart only is by itself that's not even reflection, thats the way it's way is.

If ally is everything,your heart is nothing.
Anyway, as I told you before, what this thread is about and what happens if you disrespect it longer, I am going deal you with admins.

[serloco]

Actually I can say what I want. I boasted of the heart and of sorcery power and of the ally, because YOU said they have no love. I just showed you what they do for me regarding love.. Yes they even tell me teaching for myself and my own heart too, they do anything I intend or will them to do... Because that is my awareness and knowledge of them.. I remember being in don Juan's world of iobs and it was hell, traps, and tricks, and then I saw it was merely my own knowledge and awareness, my intent that placed them their, so I shifted, and when I did they shiftd with me and began teaching me how to leave their world and not be trapped, just like that. They teach anything I want.. PERIOD.


You really think my post about having the ally have heart of any form, and take shape of any form is NOT knowledge..

ANd to mention, those spells are mine, I made them.. I use them on average people and it makes them shift.. Not my allies that do it for me, no, I made it with my allies help and learned it for myself.. My allies teach me anything I want them to. and I am the one who lears and keeps what I learn and casts my own spells.

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[serloco]

ANd to mention, those spells are mine, I made them.. I use them on average people and it makes them shift.. Not my allies that do it for me, no, I made it with my allies help and learned it for myself.. My allies teach me anything I want them to. and I am the one who lears and keeps what I learn and casts my own spells.

[scout1]

serloco you are the bad boy here see we can have you for breakfast your allies included

[serloco]

Go ahead and try. I dare you.