Evil sorcery

[Littlepaw]

I think that there are two types of knowledge, irrational and rational. How can you reason about irrational knowledge?

[shamanka]

if feel it has its own type of glossary Little Paw, not to be reflected on or analysed..it just is, what it is....it doesnt trigger any response it is just 'accepted' as being...

[Littlepaw]

Sorry Shamanka I am not sure what you mean, what has its own type of glossary? I am pointing out that there is left side awareness and right side awareness. Also that left side awareness cannot be grasped by the rational mind or reason. If someone sais something like every position of reality has it own reasoning I will say how can it?

[serloco]

The known and the unknown sides of awareness may be opposing, but the unknown is still knowable, meaning that we can and do become aware of it, and quite naturally any awareness that was previously unknown becomes known to us, including the reasoning that lies within it. It seems you are speaking of the unknowable in which case no known reasoning would apply.

[NagualHuman]

Because you can question it.
Left side of awareness same as right has nothing to do with rationality or irrationality, rather than that it has much more to do with access to different states of awareness.
Every single step or word you make is a change of reality.

Can you please explain what does irrationality means ? Because for me everyone has different meaning of these, for someone would be irrational to catch fishes when he can read books all day and vice versa. If you are describing some sort of commonly used rationality, then I would love to know from which group this idea came from.

[NagualHuman]

How do you know you cant reason in unknowable ?
Or did you ment that you would have to use unknown reasoning ?

[serloco]

I don`t personally know anything about the unknowable so how can i from reasoning based on unknown variables

[serloco]

Even in alternate states of awareness there is reasoning, it is just altered reasoning. The habitual reasoning is no longer active however there are new laws and ways of alignment, new variables. New reasoning becomes activated.

[shamanka]

"It is my understanding that the truth of what is occurring is always there to see. It may not make sense to your standard position of awareness as the reasoning within that position is obsolete, however the new position should have its own reasoning. The old seers held the position of awareness that was firmly on the silent knowledge, that could see the perfect position of reasoning, they could see the reasoning of any position of awareness. I see it as universal truths."

i love this expression of it..ty serloco

[Littlepaw]

I think that there are two types of knowledge, irrational and rational. How can you reason about irrational knowledge?

[shamanka]

if feel it has its own type of glossary Little Paw, not to be reflected on or analysed..it just is, what it is....it doesnt trigger any response it is just 'accepted' as being...

[Littlepaw]

Sorry Shamanka I am not sure what you mean, what has its own type of glossary? I am pointing out that there is left side awareness and right side awareness. Also that left side awareness cannot be grasped by the rational mind or reason. If someone sais something like every position of reality has it own reasoning I will say how can it?

[serloco]

The known and the unknown sides of awareness may be opposing, but the unknown is still knowable, meaning that we can and do become aware of it, and quite naturally any awareness that was previously unknown becomes known to us, including the reasoning that lies within it. It seems you are speaking of the unknowable in which case no known reasoning would apply.

[NagualHuman]

Because you can question it.
Left side of awareness same as right has nothing to do with rationality or irrationality, rather than that it has much more to do with access to different states of awareness.
Every single step or word you make is a change of reality.

Can you please explain what does irrationality means ? Because for me everyone has different meaning of these, for someone would be irrational to catch fishes when he can read books all day and vice versa. If you are describing some sort of commonly used rationality, then I would love to know from which group this idea came from.

[NagualHuman]

How do you know you cant reason in unknowable ?
Or did you ment that you would have to use unknown reasoning ?

[serloco]

I don`t personally know anything about the unknowable so how can i from reasoning based on unknown variables

[serloco]

Even in alternate states of awareness there is reasoning, it is just altered reasoning. The habitual reasoning is no longer active however there are new laws and ways of alignment, new variables. New reasoning becomes activated.

[shamanka]

"It is my understanding that the truth of what is occurring is always there to see. It may not make sense to your standard position of awareness as the reasoning within that position is obsolete, however the new position should have its own reasoning. The old seers held the position of awareness that was firmly on the silent knowledge, that could see the perfect position of reasoning, they could see the reasoning of any position of awareness. I see it as universal truths."

i love this expression of it..ty serloco

[Littlepaw]

I think that there are two types of knowledge, irrational and rational. How can you reason about irrational knowledge?

[shamanka]

if feel it has its own type of glossary Little Paw, not to be reflected on or analysed..it just is, what it is....it doesnt trigger any response it is just 'accepted' as being...

[Littlepaw]

Sorry Shamanka I am not sure what you mean, what has its own type of glossary? I am pointing out that there is left side awareness and right side awareness. Also that left side awareness cannot be grasped by the rational mind or reason. If someone sais something like every position of reality has it own reasoning I will say how can it?

[serloco]

The known and the unknown sides of awareness may be opposing, but the unknown is still knowable, meaning that we can and do become aware of it, and quite naturally any awareness that was previously unknown becomes known to us, including the reasoning that lies within it. It seems you are speaking of the unknowable in which case no known reasoning would apply.

[NagualHuman]

Because you can question it.
Left side of awareness same as right has nothing to do with rationality or irrationality, rather than that it has much more to do with access to different states of awareness.
Every single step or word you make is a change of reality.

Can you please explain what does irrationality means ? Because for me everyone has different meaning of these, for someone would be irrational to catch fishes when he can read books all day and vice versa. If you are describing some sort of commonly used rationality, then I would love to know from which group this idea came from.

[NagualHuman]

How do you know you cant reason in unknowable ?
Or did you ment that you would have to use unknown reasoning ?

[serloco]

I don`t personally know anything about the unknowable so how can i from reasoning based on unknown variables