Beleif

[serloco]

I want to discuss the power in belief. Power muct be hunted and placed accordingly where you want it to be. Many people underestimate the power belief has. Sure belief is not knowing but it is an extension of our will. When you believe in something enough you can make it real. It takes form. It manifests. There has been many books written on the power of belief. ANd believe me knowledge is power. If you say belief is not powerful and use shabby knowledge then it will be exactly as you say it will be. You must empower belief in order for it to work for you.

Last month I learned to take off my belief. I relied solely on my knowingness. I had no belief that I could see. Some of my allies thought I would be harmed by having no belief but I was sure to bless my body before doing it. The problem was my belief was being used by my enemies against me. After somewhile I decided to again turn on my belief and empower it in the way I wanted SO I conjured a new fresh and unyet formed belief. I could see it on my right stomach region. Often my awareness is seen in perseptions on my body or inside my body or mind. PIctures that represent the forms I am perceiving. Like teller in my mind, a maker in my belly, will in my stomach, knowingness on my back. Anyways the first thing i said was that you can believe in anything and make it real. The second thing I said was that belief has infinite power. The nest thing I said was I believe in perfection in the self. Straight away my belief started moving to the motion I had set. I said I believe perfection spreads into the mind and sure enough my damaged and cursed mind started healing with perfect thoughts again. I then saw something in my mind coming from my belief, it was alive and movin, a lifeform. I then said this ilfeform must be perfection and i believe she is a perfect healer for me. My mind has been heavily occupied by living beings, tulpas, hallucinations etc. SUre enough this perfect healer started blessing my enemies who t my fears could lived inside my mind. I went to fall asleep and started to daze when I discovered one of my enemies helping me. He was talking to me and making me believe in his words. He told me so many things about my ife that I didnt know but I absolutely believed in. He told me my enemies had died and sure enough they had.

Well you see smart as I am I stil have my flaws. I didnt anticipate the raw power this new belief system had. For I was fluid and moving and although I loved my new belief system it had a serious flaw. I could believe in anything. ANYTHING. My belief went wild on me as I started to wander and stray in my journey discovering the power of belief. I believed that I could die. I believed that my fears could manifest. SUre enough as soon as i started fearing death it came to me. I saw my belief position (point) hovering on the edge of death. It was called mortal danger. It was difficult to stay safe because my fear was holding me captive. I knew I had to believe I was safe and yet mortal danger was hovering all over me and i knew i was about to die. My belief point was inches away from death. I spent hours holding myself carefully from this outcome. RIght on the edge of certain death. My fear came alive and I believed it would harm me as it was holding me captive. My fear split into a living entity that was controlling me and cursing me. My fear became me and I was wild. I was brave in the face of death and wrecklessly wild. CUrses came out of my mouth and turned me into a nightmare. ENemies spawned from everywhere to hurt me and kill me. My power rushed out of me and right into my enemy, my fear, and my opposition. I spent days trying despretely to heal my dangerously cursed fear and stop almost dieing. Finally I did it and using my old belief. I called the new belief a lie. You see in my normal belief i use my belief as a cutter. AN infinite cutter. If I choose to i can disbelieve something, even something real, and it cuts it from reality. FInally I managed to banish this new belief system and intend it to never again return.

Lesson learned? Be careful in what you believe in and what power you dish out. Next time I wont believe that i can believe in anything.

[funnyguy]

Belief can be the perfect cutter and yet the perfect allower. Flaws I have too and reading through the thread I examine myself and can see lots of what you speak of in my experiences.
I had allowed the knowledge of imminent death and grounded it quite perfectly in my reality and it was my knowing that was summoning it. My intent was such and it was perfectly leading me to where I had placed my power in. I also managed to allow myself be deceived and feed power to lots of entities that were not using it for my benefit. I've been observing my inner awareness tho and have been using it more for a cutter nowdays and I am learning to take away power from what should not have it. It is giving me peace of mind and hope I learned the most important thing is not only to be fluid but to be able to retain cohesion at will in the new position, belief and knowledge you activate.

It' good I have the perfect friend and teacher to help my ass out.

[funnyguy]

[glance left]

"Belief can be the perfect cutter and yet the perfect allower."

I like this. And, with respect to what you mentioned above, Serloco, I like the "drunken nagual" approach to belief. My preference is to keep belief open-ended and abstract.....though there are some focal elements that can be touched upon verbally....qualified.

"Abstract affection" for instance, for me is open ended belief in that the affection (definitely focal in comparison to "hatred") has no particular reference point.....thus it can be felt for anything, anytime. It's source is infinity itself.

Or, perhaps, the belief in "God". On a personal note, the word "God" feels to insular. The hard "g" and hard "d" at the beginning and end feel like closed doors, fore and aft, with "church in session" in the middle. "Infinity", on the other hand, has the open "I" and open "y" at the beginning and end. There's an interaction with the intelligence and abstraction affection of infinity amidst the details of this life....so, somehow, infinity itself and its interaction with poor little me feel very personal...intimate....at the moment. But the truth of it, as I see it, is like the tree that Rosy refers to ........something is focused and seemingly definitive in terms of its trunk, the hard/fixed parts, which extend above and below into a fine spray that extends into forever

[Nagual Menagerie]

Glance, I find your poetic imagery exceedingly elegant. I don't have anything to add--just sitting here and visualizing your perception of God vs Infinity and the concept of a tree. Absolutely stunning.

[glance left]

[Nagual Menagerie]

That's one of the best pictures of a tree I've seen. It looks like the synapses and neurons within the brain. A hub of awareness and energy. How beautiful to put an image to the story thank you.

[glance left]

Yeah, neural net was the impression I got as well. Amazing how far the branches extend from the base

[Mornings Son]

serloco wrote:.....AN infinite cutter.Manjushri's (bodhisattva of Wisdom) Diamond cutter sword, the Vajra Sword of Discriminating Light ” If I choose to i can disbelieve something, even something real, and it cuts it from reality. that cut through all ignorance. 
Tonal reality is according to buddhism illusion 

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Great posts ))))

[glance left]

Yeah, I remember one of the tenants of Dzogchen was that of "cutting through"........the illusion or the fixed form of tonal reality.....which is really just a collective agreement upheld in the dialog

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