The Wisdom of God

[Mornings Son]

Making your command the command of the Eagle is same same as God hearing ones prayer?

[serloco]

Making your command the command of the Eagle means your word is the law. When I did this I found I could tell the world to be and do anything. Not to mention learn anything.

[serloco]

Yes billy, Kao and I have a platonic friendship developing.. Maybe the occasional roll in the sack too.. *winks*

JK!!!!

[Guest]

serloco wrote:In revelations there is mention of many angels depicted in metaphors. For example one angel is said to have one leg as pillar on the solid earth, and the other leg in the water of the ocean. This eans that the angel was fluid with one side of his body in the changing form of the universe, and the other leg was positioned onto the solid form of the earth. In this position the angel can change things in the world and with his solidity, his cohesion, he can channel the changes he sought into the solid form of the earth. The fluid waters would form into cohesive bonds with the earth.
Now THESE stories of God and the Bible are very interesting (including the other snippets in this thread).  I don't believe in God, but I believe there are messages within those stories which are useful and seen repeated throughout history and across other belief systems.

[serloco]

Thanks, K, I made it my goal to study and understand the stories. Not only that but to become them myself.

[Billy]

Psalm 137:9

    “Happy is the one who seizes your infants and dashes them against the rocks.”

Deuteronomy 21:18

18 If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and that, when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto them:

19 Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him, and bring him out unto the elders of his city, and unto the gate of his place;

20 And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard.

21 And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel shall hear, and fear.


http://reverbpress.com/features/evil-bi ... es-ignore/

[Mornings Son]

serloco wrote:Making your command the command of the Eagle means your word is the law. When I did this I found I could tell the world to be and do anything. Not to mention learn anything.Serloco, you make it sound like going to a shop an buy a chair and the just sit down in it.. Ahhhh.. Is it really easy or how did you arrive at this mastery??

[Billy]

Kaomea wrote:
serloco wrote:In revelations there is mention of many angels depicted...
 
..stories of God and the Bible are very interesting... I believe there are messages within those stories which are useful and seen repeated throughout history and across other belief systems.  


 


   Yes, very interesting..  

and the messages ARE very useful---> especially, for those who would manipulate others and capitalize.  Borne out of ignorance of physics and fear of temporality, the strongest males repeatedly used it to suppress and control sheeple.. primarily females.

Religion sustains ignorance,misogyny, and servitude.

omg Kaomea, I am thinking I am going to do a number on you, a real song and dance when I'm ready.  I opened myself up to you just a crack, and I saw how powerful and 'vindictive' you could be.  It's all fun if survivable.

[Billy]

Kaomea wrote:
serloco wrote:In revelations..
 
Now THESE... (including the other snippets in this thread)... 



 
Oh, and yes, I mean to acknowledge your code of 'other snippets' to tell me you are paying attention.  GOOD

[serloco]

Mornings Son wrote:
serloco wrote:Making your command the command of the Eagle means your word is the law. When I did this I found I could tell the world to be and do anything. Not to mention learn anything.
Serloco, you make it sound like going to a shop an buy a chair and the just sit down in it.. Ahhhh.. Is it really easy or how did you arrive at this mastery?? 
I just intended it. I entered into a position of awareness that saw that what I knew was what I got. I learned to control my knowingness, and craft it into a command. I just intended to find the position of awarenss that merged my intent with the command of the Eagle, of God. I used my knowledge of the ''the source'' in that every possible outcome of reality exists right here and now. Fluidity can be beckoned and once fluid you control your awareness, and you beckon to you the lessons, the exact lessons you want from the source of creation and destruction. I had to open my mind to a channel from the source, and so the spirit fed me consciousness, awareness, and so I would ask it to show me exact lessons from the masters and then i would wait, and sure enough my mind was filled with the awareness positions i was seeking. It helps to activate the right kind of knowledge into your life. Guiding fluidity is key. Once you shift you just control the shift, and imagine where you are going to be. You must give power to the right forms, like God and the Eagle, the Source and the Spirit. You must define them and then work with your definiton. Infinity is a definitive journey. Give power to what you want to give power to and then let that power worl for you.

[Billy]

serloco wrote:
Mornings Son wrote:
serloco wrote:Making your command the command of the Eagle means your word is the law...
Serloco, you make it sound like going to a shop and buy a chair...
 
 You must give power to the right forms, like... the Spirit. You must define them and then work with your definiton. Infinity is a definitive journey. Give power to what you want to give power to and then let that power work for you.
  Then, can you p-l-e-a-s-e !! CHOOSE to forego the patriarchal biblical sh*t for you own amazing source (sorcery) and TELLS?  Thank you Derek.  That stuff is an insult to my wife and daughter.

AND, how come "Billy is delusional" when he works with (and acknowledges the power of) Kaomea to be his spiritual form?  Only you can define Billy's journey in infinity?


Kaomea, I did not intend to frighten you with my 'doing a number on you' comment.  Frankly, I am totally afraid of opening the door to ya when I'm not stoutly tempered.  Honestly, you nearly killed me {literally (over time)} when I absorbed the brunt of your enchantress/dreaming acumen.  Such..  IT IS POWERFUL!!  [imagined or not]   

I will open that door again in the fall.

If the powerful blasts, intense dreams, and 'whatnot' WERE (as I believe) from your channeling ability, please consider the possibility we both might act more amicably for a little bit.  If I don't act appropriately in dreams, perhaps you will provide cogent inferences for fascilitating change.  I am certainly become more disciplined and aware. 



Kaomea

[serloco]

No, I won't abandon my beliefs for you. They are what defined me, my power, and my gifts. God is deeply embedded in my way of life. Always has been. To turn my back on my best friend would be unthinkable to me.

[Mornings Son]

Thanks for an inspirational answer Serloco.

I like it and makes me recall related stuff I know ))))

[serloco]

Glad to hear MS. I wouldnt trust the call for power if i were you. Its not all its cracked up to be. I would trade it all for a loving normal reality. It is loving the simple things that is more precious than anything in the world of power.

[serloco]

I spent a decade or two hunting power. SUre I found it and i can tell the president what to do, or science what to find, I can disappear and make anything i want. But do you know what i want most? I want to be normal with a house i bought and a woman i love. My awareness is so screwed I cant even imagine a normal person. All I see is mind control, tellers, commands, movers. I hate it all. Power is a waste of time. Lust and greed. The best thing in life is love.

[Billy]

serloco wrote:I spent a decade or two hunting power. SUre I found it and i can tell the president what to do, or science what to find, I can disappear and make anything i want. But do you know what i want most? I want to be normal with a house i bought and a woman i love. My awareness is so screwed I cant even imagine a normal person. All I see is mind control, tellers, commands, movers. I hate it all. Power is a waste of time. Lust and greed. The best thing in life is love.
 

   I like shamanka's concept, that the word 'love' for warriors, is too ambiguous.  Rethink 'love' as the height of well-being.  At the height of well-being, we then can share a sense of that with others.  Your judgements of power, lust, and greed are off base.  What exists does exist.  Constructive empowerment first objectifies rather than discriminates.  No qualities of being have to cause the exclusivity of integrated self-union. 

   You are being put to the test by self-manufactured qualities of what is an ideal tonal.  Yes, Billy DOES have EVERYTHING (really), but it is without the onus of random desire you are tonally projecting.  If you will NOT be wholesome in THIS (as is), you will not be wholesome.  That is, changing conditions will not alter ultimate well-being.

    I expected this 'bonsai endeavor' would put your wonderful nagual experience at difference with the tonal.  The two are not contradictory.  I reconciled my tonal and nagual drives/ambitions with having the ultimate heights of well-being by keeping focus on perspective.  When I hear you speak of money to be had from the bonsai pursuit I know you are in trouble.  Such vocation has to become a matter of perfecting one's spirit.  Ironically, the material rewards typically follow.  I know lots of persons who have attained wealth, and ALL of them are miserable.  They do not exist as whole persons.  That is, they never considered integrity.  Who are you Derek?

    I am not discouraging you from tonal occupation.  I WANT you to have it for the right reasons, just as you advised me on crossing over to explore wisdom by change of attentions.  I know a great deal about living, but only because I had few remarkable  friends who showed me the foundational knowledge. 

    You might read 'billys basic detachment practice' #101 to #120.

[rosygyro]

[Billy]

self-pity/self-destruction/self-self=self.  CHOOSE!!!

[Billy]

..by the way, where is my precious little c*nt?  Maybe, she will never talk to me again.  omg!  Laugh   Oh, I knew I could not be nice

[serloco]

oh sure, i can be happy, i can be happy with nothing, having lost everything. I can be happy in any situation. content with no desires. That is the way i choose to be these days. Happy to serve people, while i take nothing in return.. but man of man it sickens me to see the items of my inventory abused. Tellersm commands, movers, have to's, makers. All @%@+ man. Made for the lust of power and control. I will do without these things in my world. Freedom is my name, and freedom is what i bring. WHy abuse that gift?

[Billy]

You are missing the wisdom here.  Having even a specific monetary goal is a GREAT thing so long as it fascilitates the process of awareness and maturity.  Any vehicle for practiced decisiveness can be valuable there.  I  distinguish occupational results from what is objective practice of integrating myself.  An occupation gives structure for developing 'wholesome' habit.  By the same measure, you must learn to stay within your self and means.  Which is to say: don't do inordinate risk without an out, option, or net.  Exception here is when there is readiness to stand on your deathground.  God damn it.. know yourself.. be down if you are down.  Don't forfeit acute awareness of knowing who you are at the essential base. 

   As to finding your inexorable romance.. we did this already... remember this song:


I am spoiling that f*cking brat by showing up here, I need to stay off of this site now. Period.

[serloco]

Yes yes, goals are good. But lusting for only power is a dead end road. All the power in the world cant buy you happiness. Power cant create real love. Not the kind that be commanded away, I am talking about true love. Real love. I cant even say a teller cant make love because I have found that it can. The body can create feelings of love just by intending that outcome. But real love is different. It comes naturally and cant be commanded. Can't be cut. Power is a cold street without love in your heart. Its so simple, you just follow your heart and your love in all your endeavors.

[serloco]

[serloco]

Amazing vocalist here..

[serloco]

The world is awareness, intent, knowledge, formlessness into form. God is there but you know so little of Him. Long ago when i read to give God power I listened diligently and began imagining all the forms and all the feats God can do. I poured into my idea of God everything that I could muster. Every time I imagined something new God could do it was birthed into my world. Imagine, think, search and seek. Remember the world is largely unknown and so there is an endless flow of knowledge yet to discover. God is Infinite and can take any form and so be generous with your idea of what God is. I suggest not following multiple Gods however, and instead folow and love the God of all Gods.