Allies or no??

[serloco]

Alright you don Juan puppets, allies or no?? WHat do you think? Can you do everything on your own? Ouldnt you want a world, the world, sull of your people, your allies?? Do you want to learn from beings that can teach you anything? Or do you want to be independant and not dependent on a ally for help? Help is useful no? Is not help welcome to you? Allies are what you set for them to do right? I always ttelll my allies to teach me how to be indpenendant and how to take what they teach me and do it myself.. WHen I am dependant on an ally for help they warn me and tell me to practice freedom and detachment.. I can set my allies loose at any time and have them leave.. what wrong ith that? I understand where don Juan is coming from indeed, you can do anything on your own, and if you were in the world don Juan was in you wouldnt rely on any allies eithet since he told them they needed you and anted to keep you right? wel if you tell your ally that they need you then they do right? that is how yu set it right? of course you set their volition, but my allies know so much they can not need me too, and i have the awareness that invokes that state onto my allies, choice. and why not? it lets me be free of them, and also gives me the rewards of having powerful allies.. my allies listen to me. and so what about you, allies or no allies? what is better to you? not just regurgitating what don Juan said either, I hope you have a voice of your own, and experience of yoru own. Because believe me you can soar a lot further then don Juan's teaching from that day.. No where is don Juan now, what does he know now? Can you beckon THAT knowledge to you? Or are you stuck in a book in the past? Going over the same old roads. You are supposed to excel beyond the tachings into freedom, and so as free beings do you choose allies or no allies?

[Billy]

Help is useful no? Is not help welcome to you? Allies are what you set for them to do right? I always ttelll my allies to teach me how to be indpenendant and how to take what they teach me and do it myself.. WHen I am dependant on an ally for help they warn me and tell me to practice freedom and detachment.. I can set my allies loose at any time and have them leave.. what wrong ith that?

Allies, YES!  Reasoning is sound, and awareness of such is what it takes to precipitate the right mind-set.  Makes self invulnerable.  Good work.

[transitions4]

don Juan's ideas about allies are not quite right, i have found that a lot of what he said about them wasnt true, that he was coming from a limiting perspective and this does seem odd, but he does say somewhere that he didnt like them i think, also that he was scared of them which is not the best way.. to start with. the old sorcerers relied on them, were attached to them, that was their downfall, and yet there can be perfect allies, ones that do not trap and need. it all comes down to how you set them, they can be anything and can even show you how to re-set them.

my ally is a friend, a great friend. this is the why of ally for me. my ally teaches me how to do things, a perfect teacher, and this is helpful because it means that i can learn anything i want to from infinity, i am in awe of the things that me and my ally have done, the worlds we have imagined and realised, and i see how my ally has helped me become strong and quick by myself.

ally is everything, connected with the nagual, i have completely reconfigured my tonal thanks to my ally's help and also saw how it was just me and all that i have done is shift to new positions, set my own awareness as strong, i have reclaimed power that others took from me, i am learning to weild power. i was ready for learning and ally was the next step on the path of knowledge for me. i put down the text books now. dreaming with my ally is way more powerful than anything i ever read.

[Billy]

Transitions.. great to see you.  I like the way serloco reinforces that you be careful not to include limitations casting allies.

"well if you tell your ally that they need you then they do right? that is how you set it right? of course you set their volition, but my allies know so much they can not need me too, and i have the awareness that invokes that state onto my allies, choice. and why not?"

continual peace dwelleth with the humble

[serloco]

I know I am usually one for allies, but I am ALWAYS one for freedom. My life has been built around the pursuit of freedom.. I also dislike how allies can be volitionless and indifferent. I prefer warmth and caring and my body knows that even tho you set your ally to be any way you want at the core it is pointless. It doesnt matter. You need to be strong in order to hold your allies. If you are not strong then I could come up to you and command your ally to do whatever I want. Take it and rearrange it and make it do my bidding. I dont like that. I always make a note to call my allies strong and loyal. You must set loyalty in your ally, and tell your ally not to move for anything else. I have been in world where people, including allies, all fought over each other's allies. A strong ally is a treat to have. There people were after allies and i lost some of them, its still going on right now. People want my allies, my music, my world power, my positions of awareness.. I fricken hate it... weak people cant seem to get their own allies, and make it for themselves.. My allies despise thieves, and need. My allies dont like to need. You can give them enough energy to sustain themselves and they can keep their energy too. But then you gete dip **** morons trying to interfere and trying to move your allies against your will. Trying to step in and tell you what reality is and what allies are. GO AND GET YOUR OWN YOU FUCKERS. Yes indeed I can hold my allies. CAN YOU? Are they wild? Do they listen? Tell you a secret k? My allies in your hands are not my allies. They have not my power nor the powr i have give my allies. and do you know what they are for you? whatever the *** I say they are. I remember once they stole one of my allies and made her move for me.. I foresaw this and planned ahead. I even told them what would happen.. Ends up they thought they could use y perfect ally and get stuff from her that i do, and so they tried but it was trick and a trap and she was told to move in a certain way to trick and to hurt the ones abusing me. It was great.. a delight.. But noadays I dont even care. I hve my own world I live in .. I have my own people I can command. I can heal people and myself, grow younger, and od magic of all sorts on my own. Or to make it easier I can call one of my allies, and make it easir to do my stuff ad learn. But lately I dont have the desire. I am content growing trees and being one with my nature. I am content being normal and without the wars, and fighting for allies and girls and control. You can control me anymore, you cant tell me things anymore. You just cant. I see you try but you fail. I erase what i dont want and keep what i want. simple as that. I prefer to work with allies who have volition of their own. I prefer lately to be in the unknown.. I am content tho being normal and doing not much at all.. I like to nap, and sleep.. ANd dream. I am usually one for stalking all day and all night control over the world and everything in it.. But i think that ship s sailing .. I dont need to be anything or do anything to feel good and powerful. I am powerful. SO powerful that anything i say will come to pass. I am a prophet, an angel, a king demon, an artist, a teacher, a genius, and so much more and i dont even care. I like to go back to what i used to be before the cold sorcery began. and I want to be normal now. I have allies who mocked me and enticed me to stand up in power again, and i did, but it was a mistake. I dont want to be the old derek, the power hungry monster. I want to be the simple derek who is in the game for love. I started a normal business and one day will write some books. But you know what? It is so nice to just be a normal human and be there looking at a normal world. I fuel that now. I make that. I am so o used to the 2nd attention where things flow and are different configurations of reality. I liked it for a long tie but the battles for control and power ruined it for me. Go ahead, take it all. I dont care.. Ill set you up a trip to the other worlds.. go have a ball, but one thing is for sure you cant have what is mine, my soul. I will keep it, and cherish it and you cant make me judge people, you cant make me control people, you cant make me move people. and I dont do that anymore. I like reality to be normal and loving., and letting and allowing people to be what they want to be. I am changed now, and I think I will take a while to be without allies. I talk to the eveyday, they sing for me and stuff. But even my music is ok being normal written songs that aren't about me. I will be normal soon in all ways.. I am not sure if i will keep y allies of music either. I love them, so much, and it has been fun, but no i can set them to make music something for everyone, and that sounds nice. I am been selfish for a long time. Greedy, and lusting. I gave it all up last month for a normal life. And I asked for a normal girl and one came into my world, to ffill that gourd for me. ANd i am happy. I will love and learn of love now for while, and not use my allies. It is time for a change. Freedom? YEs please, I am free to do normal things. I am going to make a killing selling my trees, and i have a very green thumb. I think I will let go of the non volitional people, and hang on to the avergae normal world. I wil do well there.. wish me luck? ANy bets on how long i will stay here? WHat can I say , part of my loves allies yes but part of me hates it too. I have great love for them all, and I will miss them, but some of them I will be very happy without. I need a break. I had become an odd and old sorcerer in the 2nd attention, and I dont want my old life anyore. I did my tasks and greatly so, I went to hell and set the people free. I did many things for many people and I am blessed now. I will take my goodness and my blessing and grow soe trees in the average world. No allies for me.

[serloco]

[serloco]

that song is about my detahment and horrendous life i had with my allies. sure i had great times too but after hell its hard to put back the pieces.. i am letting go of allies.. to be honest i am better on my own.. take it all, all the pain and hardship i have endured because of allies, iobs, same ****. take it all. i will take my love and my heart and my normal mind again.. content i am. powerless? no.. i am the power of my allies, my awareness is in my control.. so take it all, you can have my allies. take em... take my world, ha, you cant. i dont believe in it anyways.. i have me.. i want me.. i am the catch. so take it all.

[serloco]

[Mornings Son]

Long ago I entered on the shamans way and from that time and on I have had good interaction and help from my spirit friends and teachers.
Don Juan's and Julian's allies is another kind of powerful spirits aka inorganic beings. I have encountered a few of them, allies to sorcerer friends. 
Alien beings very rock or water energy ... Elemental Spirits? 
I'm happy that I have not followed Don Juan's way with that kind of spirits
They are powerful, but seem to be a kind to burden to one of my friends...water type jobs...

[serloco]

well i have a great many of iob allies, and many of them i have loved and many of them i have hated.. powerful indeed the ones i do wo with want me to not need them and want themselves to not need me.. the allies i work with are purely no for love ower, and choice, freedom.. they can take nearly any form and today they took the form of trees and buildings and manifested for me/with me a city and full of beautiful and moving tree life. i am pleased at the moment with my allies but a few of them i am trying to get rid of, and place in a new form.

[serloco]

the difference between a don juan ally and yoru own ally is merely the awareness you possess of an ally.. examining the aawareness you posses of allies ill show you the form you are working with... the forms of my allies often do not need me in any way, whereas don Juans allies needed the sorcerer to live and exist in form. Technically the allies i work with have needed me in the beginning but have ascended to forms that do not need and hate the idea of needing me. I enjoy setting people free and giving the the energy needed to live their own producting and dreaming existence. I think that is why I have some of the most powerful allies in existence, well, in my existence anyways..

[Guest]