Kill them

[serloco]

Personally I find it kind of weak that sorcerers intend the removal of the flier mind. They intend for it to give up and depart. It seems weak to me not to cobat your enemies. The flier race, and I don't even give them that form anymore for I give them nothing. why not intend a body that not only cobats any negative entities but can kill them. Wouldn't it e better to intend that action instead of merely letting them loose? Take in the awareness right now that your enegy body can intend perfectly any action and say to yurself my body will do this and I will find myself doing what I have intended to do. That is all you need to do to intent an awareness posiion, iagine it, form it in your intent by thinking about its form, then intend to reach that state. IN this case the action of killig a flier, ot even the entire race of them. We are Infinite no matter what they say. It is yur life your giving them, you are the one giving them form even. As you as you say to yourself their is some enemy fliers out there that is the form yu begin intending and thus dreaming. Do yu intend fliers into your position of awareness. Learn to deny them of their form and return these creatures you have been possessed by back to the formless essence in which they hav sprung, Remove the existence of fliers from within your awareness so that when you think of them yu think of them as defeated already and formless, thus without any definition whatsoever At the very least begin attacking their forms and their actions too by stating yur intent clearly that they are weak and they are failing, tell them that awareness can not be eaten, make your body too strong for them. Appy the best knowledge to your self the best forms you can imagine and you will be dreaming your bodies form, you aready are doing it every time you accept any knowledge that has to do with your body. Knowledge that is accepted gets made active in form ad becomes reality. Refor your knnowledge of the fliers mind and the form you have given them within your attention. Kill them and cut them down and give them nothing. Form your own knowledge about the fliers ad you will be shifting not only yourself but the fliers too.

[serloco]

Also, voice your intent clearly that your awareness position, including any special powers that you gain in your position are for you alone unless you decide to give out your powers. If not I am almost sure that you will get people, iobs, saying that they can do what you just found. If you say yes then, your awareness and intent, or your ally if you in that position, or your God, or your Spirit and power will give them that ability. I denied my awareness to them recently and took back all my powers from the iobs that I work with. I cut down their projections too that we had crafted together and have gotten rid of much of my inorganic awareness positions. Yes I still have them safe and sound in my awareness position (ap) and can use them only if I want to. I am being very cautious now because ever since I have denied these forms to them, and denied their projections in my world they have since tried a few times to move me back into accepting them and going back into their awareness positions. They told me I am losing many of my dreams and tried to lure me back into embracing them again. Yes, last night I took down many powers and positions of my own active awareness. It was wonderful too even though I was angry at the iobs. I felt great to detach myself from so many of my allies and the iob world. It felt great to be able to lay to rest many of the powerful things I had gained in my dreaming in the iob world. I did not care one bit (nearly) when I cut many great, powerful and magical things down. I kept so much too, but gave the power only to myself. I separated much of my inorganic awareness from my body and took it out of my awareness. I reached such a position of detachment and without a care in the world in regards to keeping my power gained from iobs, that I reached a state of total indifference. To everything. I reset my entire world last night. I also reached a state of near non-volition and pure will, and without purpose or desire of any form. I was almost to the state of awareness where I did not care of I lived or died. I lost all my fear of nothingness and oblivion that I was ready to go and did not care if I ended even. At this position my awareness reached a state of pure decision seeing that I could now end my existence or I could continue on. All though I did not care either way and lost my desire even to live I decided to go back to a state of wanting again to live and set myself a coupe of new goals to keep me going. Set myself some desire ad some purpose so that I again could gain the volition and desire to live.

[serloco]

oops, i placed my last post in the wrong thread by accident, it meant to be in allies.

[serloco]

bump!!

[Guest]

i will post here some extract from email last night.. all my words just to provide context
the thing is that i honestly realised everything in that post kill em it
was like i read it and it had already happened to me even though i
didnt know that i was under the influenc e of a flyer.. i saw how it
tried to hide this from you and you saw it anyway and have helped me
destryo it.. without even mentioning it..--i also see the mask of the flyer..in plain view how it is like a sucker
on the face, just probably a  memory of some description in castaneda,
but thats how i see it and i will definitely be taking your approach in
attempting to destroy the flyer where i see it with my intent, i never
want anyone to feel like i did and it is just common sense, my ally
showed me this and also not to be dragged into it again and also that it
is what cast my impression that everyone hated me.. you see it was
indifference that i saw and the flyer or whatever took that and
whisphered that it was hate.. my ally showed me this
--
so last night i destroyed the flyer using the method the original post describes, with the help of my ally.. i merged with her at some points and we journeyed together.. i would like to thank you humbly for everything you've written on this forum, i praise your patience for showing me how to activate aspects of my awareness i never even imagined.. all with supreme skill.. i know that there do not exist words to express my gratitude.
i saw how my reading of castaneda made it easier for the flyer to control me.. i thought in the past that perhaps knowledge of the flyer would be beneficial, in my case, it made things more difficult - or i made everything more difficult for myself, i should say. one of the reasons for this is that without a nagual to show me things, i feel that i was still entertaining a lot of what castaneda was saying intellectually, not really going there - not really believing things, and not doing enough practice.. this, in the past, has been a trait of my character - to do the least amount of work possible, i am very lazy, so it is only natural that this kind of thing happened to me. i neglected a great deal of the teachings and this is something that i have now corrected.
i moved to a new pad today it is calm, pleasant and comfortable, and have already received a gift of power, weights and bench.. think its time to get ripped

[serloco]

Very good! And thank you for posting...

much love to you transitions... I too get a lot from our interactions..,

No, the world doesn't hate people like you.. quite the opposite.

be sure to bless and to love your people, hold the highest vision of them as you can and shift away from any 'bad food' you have digested (judgments)

[Littlepaw]

Wanting to kill things in this way seems hateful to me.  I am not judging, I speak from experience.  Recently I had a dream in which I was afraid because I was stalking a creature, I had taken a shot at it with my rather large gun and I was looking around frantically in case of others, I felt the situation hopeless all in all.
I pondered the dream and its meaning and then I remembered!  

Years ago when I used to experiment with what to me was then 'Astral Projection' I became aware of a being that used to terrorize me during sleep paralysis, it used to take the shape of my friends and family and seemed to enjoy scaring the **** out of me in my state of vulnerability.  My theory is that maybe this same being has been in stalking me since I was a child!

As it turns out my awareness of the realness of this being was enough to make it vanish from my dreams altogether until now.

As it turns out I was so angry about being stalked by this being that I wanted to not only protect myself, which I already had, but I wanted to kill it, to show them, to see how they liked it and this is what my dream was about.

I think about Don Juan explaining to Carlos in Journey to Ixlan that he should regard the Misdeeds of Men in the same way we regards a Lion trying to kill us.  Don Juan said  you wouldn't get offended at the lion would you?  

So we should not be offended at my dream beings behavior and nor should we be offended at flyers.

Peace out : )

[serloco]

Hey Littlepaw, good to see you again, i was hoping you would pop back in.

Well what you say applies also to my teaching. Who can blame me for killing a dirty life sucking evil entity? It is just the way I am. I kill them and they leave me alone now for the most part. However I have also given other teaching in dealing with fliers as I have other methods too. For example shifting your awareness of the flier will control your perception and ultimately the actions they perform. By seeing them instead of an ally and friend, or something else other then a life sucking entity enables the shift of your judgment into a new form. I have this too. I have taught this method to my friends too and it also works and is a 'better' more peaceful way to handle them. Dream their forms. Control your perception and do not sustain a negative image of them. But alas this would be also considered possession. Some would say this is wrong but who gives a ****. I will not stand by when some life sucking hateful entity tries to steal my life away and drain away all my hard work, *** that. You step up to me and you reap what you sow, and you want my life for yourself well guess what? It is my life and I can control tht life and so what you eat may just turn out to be the poison that runs in my veins.

[Guest]

Littlepaw, just to clarify things
serloco sez: It is yur life your giving them, you are the one giving them form even.
As you as you say to yourself their is some enemy fliers out there that
is the form yu begin intending and thus dreaming. Do yu intend fliers
into your position of awareness. Learn to deny them of their form and
return these creatures you have been possessed by back to the formless
essence in which they hav sprungi dont want to kill things.. i gave the flyer form.....and so with the help of serloco and my ally i intended it away yes to the void.. it was a tough experience.. my ally is beautiful and perfect and she saw that this was the right thing to do.. i also Trust in God.. that my work may be right, the flyer was formed and fed by my fear, not a being of Light...it was a personal experience i spoke of, and God gave me choice and yes i took this method to be the best and i know that it was right for me..

[serloco]

Yeah long ago I gave God command over my life and my soul, and when I curse something or someone He has the final say if it lands or not. I intended this because of my temper and I had hurt some greedy people badly a few times and i felt bad for it later. Since then three of my curses have not landed while the rest hit home perfectly.. Before I gave Him control and yielded to His perfect judgment all of them would hit.

[Littlepaw]

Thank for the welcome!
Its nice to be back 

I'm not really sure if we are all on the same page so to speak.  When it comes to flyers i have zero experience or at least zero experience that I am able to associate with the term.

I remember this creature, however tormenting me since I was a child.  Once when I was young it was my mother who was shrieking and chasing me around a house of giant spiders.  When I was 11 ears old I had an older friend who taught me chess, real nice guy but I dreamed that I looked in to his house and he could see me from a distance and chased me in to a house full of vampires, the creature strikes again.

Around the same time I dreamed I was naked walking near my house and this time the being chasing me was very slow and looked like a round fat thing, this dream makes me wonder if this was even the same creature.

In a sleep paralysis dream I was in bed in pain, I could see through my house and in the sky was a very jolly being riding past in the sky.  I think he really gets off on seeing me in pain, what ever floats your boat.

Much later when I more actively tried to engage in sleeping experiments I awoke to my horror to see my friend Sam next to me with a sick grin once again relishing in my paralyzed anguish.

This was also the point when I came to thinking that this was indeed a real creature after me in my dreams and this was all it took for him to never bother me again, one hopes : )

Im not sure if you guys have ever read the book by Florinda Donna Being In Dreaming?  In this book she meets one of the Sorceresses associated with Carlos Castaneda.  They stay one night at a hotel where Florinda has a horrific dream where she feels she is being raped, evil creature strikes again!

More recently my Shintaido instructor and friend dropped a bomb shell on me, he said rather casually that he had performed over one hundred exorcisms.  He said that people would come for treatments regarding other things but that they would often bring something in with them which he could make go away, immediately I started thinking about our evil fear loving friends.

This is all the experience (mostly) of this I have and it was fun to share it with you.

I think your right Serloco to teach a more peaceful way of dealing with things like this, I for one have seen what becoming a bitter hateful person might be like and there is no laughter on that path,, nor much grace as I see it.

Nice talking to you guys, or at you : )

[serloco]

Thanks again for sharing.. I have been in the depths of very real Hell Littlepaw, and full of very real hate and rage against very real and very powerful evils. I can assure you that their is laughter in hate and evil for i enjoyed making the evil demons suffer for what they did to my people. I took great joy in hearing their very real screams of agony just as they took pleasure in tormenting and torturing very good people. I too can cast away demons and charm the snakes with my gaze alone. I also took pleasure in stealing away Satan's Hell and making it my own very own inclusive dreaming position. With God's aid of course. My wings can create water even if they are on fire.

Aside from all that I agree with you that a peaceful approach is best if available, but in the depths of Hell you have to fight fire with fire and have your flame be the brightest. God taught me the perfect flame then and taught me a form of black flame that only I know how to cast (as far as I know) it is a black hole flame that extinguishes other flames completely, sucking them out and putting them down. Very handy to have when everything is on fire and demons are everywhere casting fire.

[serloco]

Oh and to make a mention, Angels are not always peachy and kind and gentle. In fact when they see evil they will fight it and destroy it on the spot without hesitation. I am not saying we are not kind and gentle though and do not seek a peaceful solution but true evil must be defeated and destroyed.

[serloco]

In my opinion letting a flier go just to prey on another innocent soul is not a solution at all and is an act of weakness. God taught me and commanded me to stand up against evil and do what is right. I say put an end to the entire flier race and simply call it evolution. I did not throw the first stone either.

[Billy]

serloco...... wrote:God taught me and commanded me to stand up against evil and do what is right. I...call it evolution...

[serloco]

silly billy takes what he wants, silly billy rearranges the fonts.. silly billy in my words does haunt.. taking his to choose and leaves nothing to lose..

[serloco]

Something worth mentioning is if you have the power to claim your dream and the images in them you can take the flier race your very own... I remember when i first gazed at the sky and made it move for me a whisper started to try to shift me back to the habitual position and feed me old school knowledge of the clouds even though i had just broken it and stopped my world.. i then decided that this whispering voice could instead feed me the new and corrected state and right away it did that.. i didnt buy into some evil flier entity then and saw it as a trick and so i didnt even find that teaching in my books at all. never have and i read them all many times. finally some douch bag sorcerer took the time and told me what it was and i pondered it for awhile.. turns out i imagined the very differently and had my own flier mid race begin following the people in my world and giving them my own knowledge and awareness and so that they would speak aloud of what i kew the world to be and not what they used to believe habitually programmed. I could gaze at my people and see the shadows speaking directly into their minds.

[serloco]

by the way billy, I agree with you 100% in how you arranged my words..

[Billy]

serloco wrote:Something worth mentioning......stopped my world.. i then decided that this whispering voice could instead feed me the new and corrected state and right away it did that.....



"stopped pre-concept mode.. "      {underlined is why billy gleaned..serloco (who rightly invokes the fliers)}


Why should I write anything at all? 

I'll kill you if you stop sharing your fluidity.

[serloco]

Bring it on muther fucker bring it on!!!!!

[serloco]

Why wrote billy? Because these coold bones (used to the old cold iobs) needs some love and warmth, and yes your playfullness too!

[Billy]

So SEER s.... I overstepped by jesting of your sacrosanct relation to God.  But, of course I know of your humility.  I am specifically aware of the pain that solidifies that attribute for you.
   I ha ha ha ha-ed 'Humbly' in lax jest really.  I'm sure you think, "Give this guy an inch and he takes a mile."  Well I do do that, but even I recognize the lack of practicality of the "GAAAWD" remark.  I mean, I know I can ask you anything and you will help me, so I will be circumspectly wise in such regard where there is no upside for either of us.  (Stepping on my own toes there)
  Nevertheless, I am billy.  Clumsy or not, it would be no fun if I am at all guarded generally.  I will move on without concern, and occasionally you might cuss me with whatever choice word(s) in displeasure.

[serloco]

I wouldn't worry about it to much, my cussing was in jest.. I could easily curse or bless you for making me pull out the dictionary so many damn times.. lol.. sacrosanct... good word!

[Guest]