Casual Conversation

[Billy]

My world is philosophically 'isolation/aloneness'.  Of course, it's empty pages one way or the other.  The habit of being fooled from convention and condition has been a challenge.  Why were talking in that sense, and again weirdly to be reminded of the empty pages.

[bit shiny]

Carlos used the water to travel upon

that's what ill do too

stepping upon a scale

fusion

it'll be fire in water

well use the wind too

that will search for us on a hilltop

while we swim in the earth

[serloco]

me too bit shiny, but i keep the fire and water apart

[serloco]

yeah you are wierd billy. lol. be back for comment... just absorbing for now.. yes when the world is small we appear big and vice versa.. i can feel like i am the maning of the world, or i can see that i am nothing and infinity is huge.. vast...

[serloco]

late;y i keep them small, and weak, and apart. i keep hidden and unknown

[serloco]

yes i can relate.. i am not of this world, yet the world is of me.. I am alone amongst everyone, they know me and thy do not... my world is darkness to be filled and they all are of the world and at times they/we are not.. i am thus the nagual

[bit shiny]

speak of fire

that's volition

truth that is

will

aligning truth fire in water

the wind will come and tell you where your standing

listen well

the earth goes all the way to the sky

neither the water or the fire belongs to this "you"

just dancing in puddles in the rain that's all

it amazing that clouds should carry lightening really in the heavens

swirling winds and all that

barometric pressures

water in front of our eyes

and movement

you could start whichever end you like

[serloco]

It IS mine and yours is yours too.

[bit shiny]

i started with one

we started with two

starting with three ?

[bit shiny]

linked and visions

perception ?

awareness ?

something happens then

you can point with truth

something else will follow you

so what belongs to this me ?

i would say the sky and the earth has given birth

but not only that

the vase is broken "complete"

the garden is open

[Billy]

Hey.  Bit Shiny, you might like Just Like Water posted by serloco in another thread.  I don't derive concept of thought there, but rather a feel of connection.  It's very nice to hear Lauryn Hill sing it too.  My wife just shared a distinction between the natural spirit akin to the earthy American Indian as opposed to most religious sects that depart into demagogue.  Your poetry reminds me of her observation. Well here it is:

LAURYN HILL LYRICS
"Just Like Water"

[Verse 1]
Moving down the streams of my lifetime
Pulls the fascination in my sleeve
Cooling off the fire of my longing
Boiling off my cold within his heat
Melting down the walls of inhibition
Evaporating all of my fears
Baptizing me into complete submission
Dissolving my condition with his tears

[Chorus]
He's just like the water
I ain't felt this way in years
He's just like the water
I ain't felt this way in years

[Verse 2]
Coursing through my senses, he's prevailing
Floating through the space of my design
Drowning me to find my inside sailing
Drinking in the mainstream of his mind
Filling up the cup of my emotions
Spilling over into all I do
If I only I could get lost in his ocean
Surviving on the thought of loving you

[Chorus]
He's just like the water
I ain't felt this way in years
He's just like the water, the water
I ain't felt this way in years

[Verse 3]
Bathing in the fountain of his essence
He causes my expression to remain
Humbled on a mountain by his presence
Washing my intentions with his name
Sealing off the floodgates of his passions
Saving all his liquid for his own
Moisturizing me to satisfaction
In my imagination? No no!
He's pouring out his soul to me for hours and hours
Drawing out my nature with his hands
Yearning I'm so thirsty for his power
Burning to be worthy of his land

[Chorus]
He's just like the water
I ain't felt this way in years
He's just like the water
I ain't felt this way in years

[Ad Libs Remainder]
Cleaning me
He's purging me
And moving me around
He's bathing me
And he's claiming me
And moving me around
Around and around and around
And around
Watching me, claiming me
Moving me around
He's purging me
He's been cleaning me
And moving me around
And around

[serloco]

3 is a one, split into two, the curves back again into where it began. 0-

[serloco]

of course..... that makes 4 which is all directions a +

[bit shiny]

yes having absolved into the sky

does one fall about down

yet whats in ones hand ?

is it the sky

fond birds

they love other fond birds

birds of the sky

why should such birds not need flight

flight ?

is it what love was

if power hovers there

i doubt i put it there

ill follow it around

as it follows me around

can i then let it be

what stillness

now whats that in the sky ?

what is it growing again

who has put this here

on the earth ?

will the modern seer having found volition

and humility

bring something else upon the earth ?

when the energy goes beyond the toes

you can't stop it if you try

water will carry the drink to their mouths

stand here or run there

i do not care

that is my folly your folly

what grows where something dissapears anyway

who has owned the sky now then

the empty hand catches a fish

i can tell you stories

switch on and see for yourself

whats old whats new

whats this one to do

[serloco]

well yes, any and all power can be claimed. You are the one who accepts that the wind moves the clouds. You are the one who accepts "BARAMETRIC PRESSURE CURRENTS ETC" You may not have created it but you cast it every time you accept it. You have not claimed that power. SOmeone else claimed it and made it for you. There is much power out there that others have set, and in every way conceivable too. But you are left with the black. You are the one with the choice free. You are given life to choose and to set and to claim. That is YOUR responsibility. Can you become all things..? yes. Can you make any choice? Yes. Black is like zero, a full zero. All the power collected, all the ways collected, all life dead and halted. And in that black that contains all colours is also death that has stopped all the colours in their tracks, and reapt every way that creation has lived. Every colour the full spectrum and every conceivable outcome has been met. That moment is total life, the omnipresent and omnipotent Eagle. That moment you become merged, or fused as you like, with all of creation, every life, and every time, all at once. We are all grains of sand on the infinite beach. Together we make every way shape and form, and it is all happening right NOW.. Can you feel it? Can you intend to see this source of all power? Yes you can.

[serloco]

My name is Kerubiel

[bit shiny]

i cannot give a *** about the descriptions

except to reach a branch across to the descriptions

of the awareness

if you are kerubiel and i am meeting you on the road again

then my name wont really mean so much as my story

as my story is written in the water as fire

what is written wholy in the water as fire

i assure you i do not recognise as black

and have never witnessed it as such

i am the sun

i am the spark from the beginning

i am all of this

to walk backwards is no option

although none will recognise it perhaps

the branch is not a speaking contest

drop your description and observe another then

i have watched a dog chase its tail today

as an image

now another image is outside of this circle

all that has been ?

only inso much as you are inside a circle

with a description

nice to meet you kerubiel

[serloco]

Reality gave me that name. Black is the Eagle. Infinity. You are not everything. You are not the beginning. If you were you could change history, can you do that? I can and do. You are poetic and inorganic, needy and dependent. I have many names and descriptions, you are seeking, I have.

[serloco]

That is truth. Not trying to be mean.

[serloco]

"It doesn't matter what one reveals or what one keeps to oneself. Everything we do, everything we are, rests on our personal power. If we have enough of it, one word uttered to us might be sufficient to change the course of our lives. But if we don't have enough personal power, the most magnificent piece of wisdom can be revealed to us and that revelation won't make a damn bit of difference." -Tales of power

[bit shiny]

look again kerubiel

all we can do is try

does it mean we should or should not ?

all we can do is try

we get so used to seeing something we see it every where we look

[serloco]

There is no we or us here, just you.

[serloco]

I think you missed this one so i will post it again for you.

"It doesn't matter what one reveals or what one keeps to oneself. Everything we do, everything we are, rests on our personal power. If we have enough of it, one word uttered to us might be sufficient to change the course of our lives. But if we don't have enough personal power, the most magnificent piece of wisdom can be revealed to us and that revelation won't make a damn bit of difference." -Tales of power

[serloco]

You should know the sun if you claim to be it. The sun is a circle too, but its rays ever grow beyond it out into and through the darkness. An expanding circle. ANd it also retains what it touches and keeps that information within it's rays that it brings back into its source within itself. That dark black center. That black hole within itself. Light IS a camera you know?

[bit shiny]

have your victory

well have the war

and they'll

fight against themselves

and blame another

your word choice goes one way

you think power makes you strong

ill watch you destroy yourself then

btw i have also met Enoch this time

and a few others

are they walking with you too ?

you should know that too