The Force of Perception

[serloco]

The path can end for an Infinite being if one intends it to end. It has been the controlled folly for many beings to end their lives and do away with their lives. Infinity is illimitable and thus anything may be intended. Why someone would end their existence I understand as I have felt this way before and yet when I did the tenant came to me and showed me another way, a position of purpose and great wonder beyond what I knew, and thus awakened in me the will to live once again.. I was on a road that saw no point in continuing my existence at that point and so she showed me one.

[Finwe]

Tenant is a saint I am having a stable telepathic connection with her for over 6 years now, one of the utmost of my heart's circle persons I enjoy conversioning with in this spirit or directly ether, the worlds we have dreamt into beign, the magic we done, lives we saved and made sure humanity survives and continues to live without destroying all and the least of life possible, while going through the silent halls of ever and so simply changing nature of future. She is one of a kind, like my other-half, my eternal love, that supports me in everything and stands behind me, like every woman that is true to his spouse, on accord that he is to her, cause love real, does. They are to me like wind and fire, glory and love.

[serloco]

Cool.

[serloco]

Another way I use the force of perception is on anyone, who can be anyone or anything.. The nature is again in the eyes, and yet guided through the attention to the target. This practice can be very alienating and so I suggest caution if you are a newbie. Focus your gaze onto a target and imagine the Ally is everything, anything and everyone or anyone. The focus of this awareness onto a person can shift them into the position you are focusing on. This works not only in personality and behavior but also can be used in appearance as well. With fluid awareness it can be kinda crazy if you are focusing on various different people and thus shifting the target into rapid cycling beings. I suggest focusing on one persona at a time. The result, with practice, can appear as if you are channeling the life force of any person in time into the person you are focusing onto.. Again it takes practice to master. With sufficient mastery one can actually split their attention onto various traits of various people and merge them into the being you re focusing onto. This includes any attributes from various different people that you select to merge into your target. With practice you can gain here an ally form that can be made to enter or become any person you focus onto, very much like controlling an agent from the matrix and having him/her materialize into the being you are focusing on. You can also save the format and recast him/her ito various different beings later on, so that your new ally form follows you around. If you perceive it as a program then a program it will appear as perceptually. Looking like whatever way you cast it as. If you see it as a channeling then it will appear in that way. But either way it is the focus of your perception onto the target that manifests the result. Remember it can be anything. I had one that was what i called an ally that would manifest onto any woman and shift her into the different forms of my dream grls, the sexiest women i could imagine and appear in any woman i focused onto.. making the woman cycle through and merge between all the greatest women of my fantasies.

[serloco]

I remember when the tenant came to me in the IOB world and was scared of them.. I was rying to tell her that they were safe but she held a different awareness then myself and did not trust them whatsoever.. She came holding a pot of fluid (water).. Which was one of her defenses against them that I didn't understand at the time.. I came later to share her views of the IOB's in that realm.. Although I do not really fear them I do also hold my fluid nature as a prized defense against them. He although loving does not have much love for IOB's.

[serloco]

serloco wrote:Another way I use the force of perception is on anyone, who can be anyone or anything.. The nature is again in the eyes, and yet guided through the attention to the target. This practice can be very alienating and so I suggest caution if you are a newbie. Focus your gaze onto a target and imagine the Ally is everything, anything and everyone or anyone. The focus of this awareness onto a person can shift them into the position you are focusing on. This works not only in personality and behavior but also can be used in appearance as well. With fluid awareness it can be kinda crazy if you are focusing on various different people and thus shifting the target into rapid cycling beings. I suggest focusing on one persona at a time. The result, with practice, can appear as if you are channeling the life force of any person in time into the person you are focusing onto.. Again it takes practice to master. With sufficient mastery one can actually split their attention onto various traits of various people and merge them into the being you re focusing onto. This includes any attributes from various different people that you select to merge into your target. With practice you can gain here an ally form that can be made to enter or become any person you focus onto, very much like controlling an agent from the matrix and having him/her materialize into the being you are focusing on. You can also save the format and recast him/her ito various different beings later on, so that your new ally form follows you around. If you perceive it as a program then a program it will appear as perceptually. Looking like whatever way you cast it as. If you see it as a channeling then it will appear in that way. But either way it is the focus of your perception onto the target that manifests the result. Remember it can be anything. I had one that was what i called an ally that would manifest onto any woman and shift her into the different forms of my dream grls, the sexiest women i could imagine and appear in any woman i focused onto.. making the woman cycle through and merge between all the greatest women of my fantasies.
This is possible because you must realize that all things are interconnected, and all ways are happening right now.

[Finwe]

Yes, he/she was using them for a very long time for the half of heirs 10 000 years of life and now she distances from them cause she gone on the path of freedom and has to balance all that inorganic energy with organic energy, like every fully actualised sorcerer, so s/he even have to fears them liberately, love them, hate them, disregardem or use any way to be distanced from them to not any further loose organic energy in exchange for theirs, hitch is the only way for exchanging it, thus gaining inorganic energy. However do not be deceived nor taken by his acts, for however the seems ununderstandable to you. They are moves of awareness planned in every detail a true mastership of stalking to balance her own organic energy with inorganic energy S,he was using mainly and almost solely for the 5 000years. That is also reason why he needed all naguals of my before life lineage to give himr energy, cause of hier sheashell luminousity she took on hairmsellf and which made him closer to inorganics than humans, nonetheless, she was able to change his configuration back to an egg, after I gave her in this life a great amount of organic energy and nearly I died from the exchange and the amount of inorganic energy, my human form blocked by that and still blocks me to use, by my own fear of death, yet we had no other option as hse was about do die as he were unable to perpetuate she anymore in that state of him that dissalowed her freedom as the seashell luminousity configuration did to the 7 other seers that before 10 000years took this forms on themselves and still wander like that on earth, without a chance to freedom.

[Finwe]

*Until they decide to change their luminous form back to egg, which only is capable of burning from within and freedom.

[serloco]

Trading energy with an IOB is not the only way to gain dark energy. The exchange is not really an exchange at all, but a filling of the darkness with new form, new awareness. Pure awareness is nothing to be fearful of in my opinion, it is what existence rests upon. You need not go into any iob realm to use or harness dark energy at all. You can use it anywhere you are and without IOB's.

The tenant is not 10000 years old but only 5000 and something. I too have had my energy body in the shape of a shell that curves back into itself. The point of this is so that your energy is constantly recycling back into you, recycling reality around you, back into itself.. In this way one can live for an extremely long time without losing any energy. Reality around you in this position is constantly reforming from the same energy it began with. I can easily shift from inward shell to normal egg. I have also been woman.

The tenant chose to be a woman because iobs are not interested in woman's configuration. She did not seek merely organic energy, she sought a nagual's energy. Big difference.

The ancient seers do not exist on average earth, they exist in positions of awareness far different and in the ally worlds. another layer of the onion. To even call it earth shows that your awareness position is quite average and you are not even seeing it as an attention, but as what the conditioned society has taught you to perceive it. You actually think that New York has an ancient death defier walking around trapped in it! LMAO!! The first attention!? The ancient ones exist in the 2nd attention, and their habitual awareness is far removed from average human awareness of Earth. Like don Juan said they exist in another layer of the onion. That is merely a way of describing a position of awareness, don Juan's awareness of reality, when in truth they have other ways to describe the abstract nture of how they perceive reality to be, making it another position of awareness. The ancient ones have hundreds if not thousands of different positions of awareness they can shift in and out of.

Personally organic energy is merely a form of awareness and to take on the forms of the allies is not very difficult at all. To be volitionless and ride another's perception is not a difficult task at all and that is a form of inorganic awareness. Like I described in my opening post. It does not hinder freedom in any way and actually can help one attain freedom of different states more easily in fact. Being able to hook your awareness to another's perception can be quite beneficial. If the wind is set right you may ride it.

[Billy]

You know S. & Finwe, it did not escape me your physical portraits.  I am not sure if I need more time to absorb it, or if like usual for me, I could care less if the pope knocked on my door.  How is it possible I am not flabbergasted?

  Finwe, thanks from the bottom of my heart for the Dayton Flyer, daughter-daddy gesture.  I will tell you that concerning any question of goodness, I need only embrace my own heart, and goodness follows.
Heart you may ask?

   I am learning to find that place that I withdraw.  Used to be my gut (laughing) and now my heart (whole body too).  Because I absorbed so much in the last hours (CONSIDERING what a **** I can be) I am now a bit daffy.

[serloco]

Truth is I never asked her for her age, but I am going from what don Juan said about her/him.

[Finwe]

You are right Serloco, thank you for further elucidating what I cracked only. However you are completely mistaken in one point and that is that Tenant is not 10 000years old, you see only one time-line of her life and that is her/his life as the Tenant, the other are time-lines, her reincarnations over the wheel of time, that she is integrating herself with and like noone I ever seen before recapitulates, after I helped her change back to the position of luminousity from where freedom is only ever possible for Human beign, human beign, human beign every sorcerer/ress has five time-lines of the wheel of time, that the sorcerer/ress is to recapitulate to gain unlimited power over the wheel of time , the knowledge I had before 40 years is nothing to comparement to the knowledge I have now, actually whole reality. Follow your own knowledge, that comes from your heart even if it would be exact opposite of what I, Don Juan says or said.

Dreamways quote "For as long as earth exists, it is possible for sorcerers to maintain their awareness" and with my add "... and once sorcerer realizes this planet is the core of infinity, to the full extent, his heart of his body, his spirit of his dreams, his feelings of his perception does the same way and the seal of third attention is broken"

Yes billy

[serloco]

No, one does not need Earth to remain intact. Earth is really a tiny fragment of Infinity, as a speck of sand is on a beach. The positions of reality that make up the totalit of existence is infact vast, and the world numerous. Earth is not the center of existence and it is the human self-importance that would lead one to believe such a tale. How how important we are, and how necessary we are to continue existence. I hate ot break it to you Finwe but I am the Nagual of my "Earth positions" and I do not bow for none. As I have told you we each have our own positions of awareness as energy generating beings. We are individuals with our own perceptions for a reason.. You do not even know the people i know, or the cities I travel to and conjure let alone rule us. Sorry. I rule my own existence and would have sorcerer I teach m=be master of their own fate and world/positions. Thus as "earth nagual" I grant choice and free will, freedom to be the masters of their own destinies. I do not teach them to give power to anyone over themselves and never to bow to a tyrant. I do not need to rule them and ask them to rule themselves and their own power of perception.

[serloco]

And you're welcome for the elucidating..

[Finwe]

I am glad you does not need to ask yourself to rule yourself and that you are awareness and it saddens me you hate to break it to me and that you do not bow ever, unhumble .
Earth is forever my home where am able to until it's vaporized return, and after that I will dissapear with it further into infinity, in which infinity will no longer mean anything more than the bigest negligibility, wheter you like ANYTHING or not and the shared dream of all people my dream as I am who I am Juan Matus, Nagual of Earth and Leader of all sorcerers, this is actually my own self-importance speaking up and I advise you now KINDLY to distance from it and not say a not a word about it, if you are so strong to simply over-look dementiaand not beign swallowed in a fight that is not even yours.

For me in my heart, planet earth is forever center of EXISTENCE, even if you would stand on your head, said or do anything you can do nothing about this, you can even call anyone nagual of earth or boast over me with your several times greater power, I see and surely explain me all about sovereignity, sober detachment,safe-working on construction , it won't change a thing that is in my heart as for my heart I am willing to burn in the flames of hell forever, ARE YOU ?
I am even willing to give my chance for to burn within and achieve infinity for it, yet that is the only act that is impossible for human beign.

"For as long as earth exists, it is possible for sorcerers to maintain their awareness and once sorcerer realizes this planet is the core of infinity, to the full extent, his heart of his body, his spirit of his dreams, his feelings of his perception does the same way, the seal of third attention is broken"

[Finwe]

Once you are loving enough for your mother and be the HUMBLE beign with eyes of pure wonder for all it's love, she herself will give you immortality and you would have not to move a finger, except working on yourself as human in humanity and tending for her ALL nature like yourself. You would need no power, yet do as you will, I am talking about options here you can still fight forever with ANYTHING it's your own decision, in witch Don Juan Matus - I never standed anyhow.

[serloco]

You are free to believe what you want fin, and i have no qualms about that, but when you step up and cross that line and demand things for me and my world, then I have a bone to pick indeed. You are not the leader of all sorcerers and sorceress', surely you must in your heart know this. You say you are don Juan but it is don Juan's words that state clearly that a warrior bows for no-one.

Yes you can surely keep the Earth a your center of reality if you want to , but for you to make a claim that it is the center of existence for everyone and for infinity itself is too much to claim. It is simply not true. There are many worlds that energy generating beings have created. I am an Earth nagual as I have told you, for my own reality, which is not the same as yours. I have a position of awareness that can perceive earth itself as a multi-dimensional wonderland where in fact every version of earth exists simultaneously.

If you can feel free to wander around demanding facts and reality over everyone heads and declare yourself the boss of all then I can surely feel free to make my own counter arguements to you, and as one who does not bow I feel free in doing so. You are not my tyrant nor my leader. I am sorry if that upsets you.

I prefer not a fight indeed but you keep declaring yourself the nagual of all and that is simply not true in my existence and I have a bone to pick with anyone who declares themselves King over my existence. I give you your own yes, and make it clear to you that yours is yours and mine is mine, and that should not be a problem for you. Freedom is not your alone my friend. Being a warrior of freedom I have a problem with anyone who declares themself the boss of me and mine. No, I do not accept that and every time you state that intent I will indeed stand up for what I know.

Stop naming yourself decrepit and dementia prone. You are sustaining your own existence and so please stop repeating negative things about yourself as well as seeking pity about it, I do have real compassion for you which is why i tell you to stop sustaining the same cycles that pit disease and old age against you.

Again Finwe, you speak of being humble and yet you show none. You think you can feel free to declare your leader of me and my world and declare all sorcerers and sorceress' as being your own, and think that i can not feel free to disagree? What makes you so special that you can declare absurd anti-freedom facts in a warriors of freedom forum and not have anyone disagree with you? Why can you feel free to declare facts over everyone in the entire existence and not allow others to have their say? What makes your "oh so humble self" so special? You may feel free to state your path but you ust accept that others may disagree Fin. We have our lives and dreams too, their own knowledge too.

I apologize if my demaner can be harsh..but my comment of "hate to break it to you" is merely stating the truth Finwe, and you must be able to accept that. You can't demand yourself to be my leader and leader of my world and all the people I have taught and shifted. You can not demand your knowledge of earth as the central hub of all infinity to be true for me, when it is not. And you declare your truth and so do I. You are not the only one who ca type on a keyboard, othrs have opinions too. You are the one demanding and playing the alpha role on me and everyone, and demanding knowledge that we do not agree with. I am fee to my say just as you are free to yours.

[serloco]

Do you really think I need to be dependent on my mother to be immortal? Attached to other people to attain immortality and freedom? Quite the opposite is true there Fin. You know nothing of me, nor my mother, nor my relationship to her. I do not need anyone to attain freedom.

[serloco]

At times I am a lone wolf, and at other times I have a pack. I have no problems woth other lone wolves, or other packs even. I have a problem however when another wolf demands his rule over myself and my pack.. Then it's on.

[Finwe]

I apologize, like for the half of my before last reply, my anger took over me the moment you said word SELF-IMPORTANCE and I fallen into the pit of self-importance, that made me see my own blocks I agreed to be under, misstakes, inadequacy and pathetic childishiness in you S,Sorry.

You are right noone needs earth to be intact, however every human needs it to be birthed and even concieved and in this sense as in sense of all senses... Time is a wheel after all and this song says clear matter. Take as many lives you need, to Quetzalcoatl understand.
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[Finwe]

Yea Serloco, we are both free, like everyone is

[serloco]

Every person that was ever in need of help I have helped finwe. Every one of them. Whenever they needed positive knowledge or a chain removed from them I was there to help them. Your song reeks of pity and self-importance, a man who wants existence to beg for his help and his refusal to give aid. That is not the song of an Earth Nagual. The Nagual of the party is set to guide people to freedom Finwe, not lust over power and control and revenge. I didn't listen the the entire song as the beginning of it was enough to turn me way off. THAT is not the path of a good leader. I have moved people into heaven on Earth fin and that song speaks of the positions of hell on earth and destruction of mankind. You speak of vaporization of existence whereas I speak of only freedom. Yes Finwe I asked some of my people who they wanted to follow and gave them the free will to choose for themselves and they chose not to follow your way. I deny your destruction, your lust for power, your greed, and your demands of only your way or no way, especially when your ways seeks death, decay and destruction. Sorry fin, just the truth, my truth.

[Finwe]

The moment anyone says someone is not free, or against freedom, the one denies heirs own freedom, if the subjects of that statements looses the freedom too is again a free decision yet only of that subject. This is a basic simple logic.

[serloco]

Finwe wrote:Yea Serloco, we are both free, like everyone is
I am glad to hear you say that!

[serloco]

Some people are not living free fin. Fact of life. Not everyone knows they can even be free. I say some people are not free, have not been shown how to be free, and I say this not to trap them or harm them but because it is me seeing the essence of the truth of the 'subject' in question..