Lone Wolf

[adeleon444]

Does it come together and fall apart with the demon at the door?I don't quite get that one.

[Bob Carr]

OK, another cliche.
All things must pass.
What goes around , comes around.
I cannot claim authority as I am still another being , subject to indulgence.
My encouragement to you is: do not fear. This is encouragement to myself as well.
That's what the song was about.
For some reason, Steely Dan has become central to me.
"When Black Friday comes, I'll stand down by the door, and watch the grey men as they jump from the 14th floor..."
or
"Daddy don't live in that New York City no more; he don't get tight every night, passed out on the barroom floor..."
In the "Art of Dreaming", don Juan says that the Earth hates humans because we are so destructive.
Another cliche is that, It's a tough row to hoe.
Fear is the Mindkiller
Thes statements are examples of my intent of the previous post

Bob CHawkeye and Crow

[adeleon444]

Hey hawkeye and crow thanks for clarifying.Does anyone remember the story of the owner of Mexico citys' biggest newspaper.I think in "active side of infinity"He sold his own paper on the street for 3 months,or something to that affect.A great exercise.Carlos and was it La Gorda living in a trailer carlos as a cook.I guess we are all just playing a roll we picked for ourselves;if that is the case there is no reason to fear an environment we created for ourselves.I guess if I ever become homeless again I should remember this.

[Bob Carr]

I've been through all the books at least three times in the past 6 months , but that doesn't really come to mind.
A chapter reference might help.Hawkeye and Crow

[adeleon444]

Read the intro to Florinda Donners Sorcerers crossing or Being In Dreaming.That is where the referance to C.C is working as a cook.There are other referances to this when I can determin my source I will let you know.The owner of the newspaper was a stalker selling his own paper on the street corner.One day he was approached by one of his employees who did not recognize him.I know this does not reveal source;but can assure you it is not one of my own mental constructs.

[adeleon444]

Carlos went under the name of Joe Cortez.

[adeleon444]

The author is Taisha Abelar of The Sorcerers Crossing

[seeitall]

and Taisha was a panhandler-----------------
THIS IS WAR

[Bob Carr]

The only alternative I have to Castaneda's books is a website known as carlosoracle Hawkeye and Crow

[Bob Carr]

Hope I can express this well. The PC has blocked me while my thoughts fade.
Anyhow, after studying all the Castaneda books, I find that my Dreams have changed.
Actually, I think that it is my Attention to the nature of the events and phases of sleep that has changed.
There is an area of conciousness between waking and sleeping that don Juan described, and I have found visions there.
Recently , as I moved to sleep, I focused on the images passing by. I found myself in a village area, faces were vague, memory now distant. Yet, I was suddenly confronted by bright lights , across a body of water; city lights, which I identified as somewhere in Asia.
In an actual dream,on another day, I found myself in an old multi-storey house. The only familiar item was my mini Pomeranian cavorting about. At work , apparently. Someone I was with wanted coffee, and so did I. The request was denied by some kind of military official.
My point here is that these, and other visions, have no relation to my experience, and must be of the Assemblage Point: other realities.
I keep discovering , in literature, various references to the Nagual lessons of Castaneda. ie: energy as the force of life (hell, physics and even biology have discovered this); Dreaming as a door to other worlds.
I just read the 'Poltergeist' paperback. A standard ghost story I know, yet, some descirptions of the medium, Tangina, use terms right out of Castaneda. Maybe Tobe Hooper & Spielberg have read it.
I wanted to say so much more here, but events have slowed me.
My first dream was a violent shocker!
More , laterHawkeye and Crow

[Bob Carr]

What I forgot:
One of the main issues about all this is that I do belive that Castaneda failed.
I do not blame him , as I accept that all humans are fools
However , in relation to Castaneda, I think that there is much more to the Nagual than he wrote about. He was rather obsessed , you know, therefore, Limited.
Spirit is vast, the Universe is Predatory, Events are , perhaps, dangerous at times.
If there are blessings, there are also curses; I think I had one over the past three months.
That's a NOTE to Bob May, who dicussed it with me , somewhat.
Serious discussion accepted.Hawkeye and Crow

[Bob Carr]

Furthermore:

'Sweet dreams are made of this
Who am I to disagree
Traveled the world
And Seven Seas
Everyone is looking for something...'
or:
'I read the news today
Oh boy
About a lucky man who made the Grade
He blew his mind out in a car
He hadn't noticed that the lights had changed
A crowd of people stood and stared
They'd seen his photograph
But nobody was really sure if he was
From the house of Lords...
I'd love to turn you on and on and on and on..'
We were talking
About the space between us all
And the people
Who hide themselves behind a wall
Of Illusion
Mystics always know
No proof needed
Hawkeye and Crow

[Nagual LoneWolf]

The world spins but in the spin we as spinettes will often lose our balance.

[Nagual LoneWolf]

Before I found Castaneda I studied black magic, druidic,Yoganda's teachings, and other such leanings.
Yoganda's teachings were profoundly affecting me because I began to dream with my first teacher who I found in dreaming.
His name was Babajii. I was Babajii's last pupil before he left the world in the 1960's.Babajii had lived for centuries and when Yoganda came he was able to deliver his final message to him. Yoganda spread that message only to a select few in India. Interesting note is that the pop band "The Beatles" were included in that information sharing.
Babajii showed me dreaming worlds and how to move along the lines of the world long before Castaneda put their description
in print. The Yogis used power much like the mexican naguals did and in dreaming they were equal as well.
Any on the path looking for ways to use power would do well to follow the teachings of the Yogis. Babajii taught me in dreaming the power to levitate, move objects with my mind, stop time or fast forward it, to move my assemblage point even though then I didn't know it as the "assemblage point" back then before Castaneda.
Babajii taught me the use of the "third eye" to move the ap and to his day I still employ the techique.

[Bob May]

"..to move my assemblage point even though then I didn't know it as the "assemblage point" back then before Castaneda."
I believe that any change in awareness beyond what Carlos referred to as "heightened awareness" is what Don Juan would refer to as a major movement of the assemblage point.
I have never seen the asemblage point myself and have only seen the luminous egg a few times. But I have had many experiences with altered awarenesses. Third eye, drawing down power, rising up to power etc.
There are many schools of occult knowledge and many methods to open ourselves to other realities.
I think staying in a "heightened awareness" state as much as possible/practical can make the major shifts more readily available. Sometimes we initiate these major shifts and sometimes Spirit initiates them.
I tend to take a wait and see approach to these major shifts. It ties-in to the idea of "Destiny" in my opinion.
The Spirit knows better than I do what I need to know and where I am supposed to go next.
Bob

[Bob Carr]

Yoganda? Not Yoganada, perhaps?
I have heard of many, with no experience with any.
For many reasons , the Beatles likely became a focus of Spirit, to those who could See, but all that is gone , now.
The Maharashi died this week.
I have never been drawn to that sort of teaching, or many others, really.
Too often disappointment with deceptions and hypocrites.
I have been drawn to Bob Dylan, who asked about 'what kind of price do I have to pay to get out of going thru all these things TWICE'. There's a bit of humor in that.
I think all established religion and their 'holy books'
Books are useful, but limited
I guess I have become a full-blown mystic, as I find nothing useful in the usual sources.
I have had to depend on my own limited resources most of my life.
Once, I met a fellow, near my own age, who was like a Nagual, a real leader, in that time.
The Indians lived in that way. Their leaders did not advertise. They arose in the perception of their peoples, and that is the difference from Western rational society.
Crazy Horse was one of these leaders. (To be honest, I have gotten to a place where I think of Western Culture, my very own heritage, as a load of ****. Ah, I listen to the subversives!)
On another subject, 25 years ago, I read everything I could find by author Herman Hesse. He wrote 'Sidhartha' , the story of Buddah. There is even a movie made of this particular book. Wish I had the film , and I may get back to Hesse , again.
Still, nothing prepared me for the manifestation of Spirit; maybeI have discounted , due to 'Flyers' , the abilities of energy within myself, thinking them to be limited.
Sometimes , I just KNOW without any reason for it. Yes?
Have you read Hesse?
Hawkeye and Crow

[Bob May]

"Have you read Hesse?"
Many years ago I read Sidhartha. One thing stuck with me.
He began as a member of a privileged priestly caste. A son of a priest, I think. From there he traveled and had to ultimately experience the absolute nadir of human existence before he was through with his journey.
He had to reach the end of himself before becoming enlightened.
Comparing it to my own experience I would say that that is a Truth.
Bob

[Nagual LoneWolf]

Ah the end of oneself. Perhaps..as I get older I know that I need to access the power areas to obtain energy/sorcery.
When I was younger the spirt was strong in me. I could see and act and define with great clarity. Age the destroyer, works on me in one direction and without going into detail, my life/its tonal has changed:
Where I lived most of my life along the fringes of society. A true lone wolf, this new part of my life is very different.
I came back into the world. I changed careers and by doing that I threw myself back into the tonal of western society.
Joined forces with what I used to think an enemy and became someone that not one person including family, friends, peers, and all who ever known me would have ever thought possible.
I confront the flyer everyday. I put my life on the line everyday. I run to the sounds of trouble , not away.
Why? Because I am a warrior.But a warrior that has taken up the sword. A type that now who will and does fight the evil in our society.
There would be many who would say: why Lone Wolf? My answer is complicated but truly it is because I can.
This type of life I live, takes it toll. I dream of violence and suffer bouts of sleeplessness, the spirt is with me as always but I am not the same with it.
Other changes as well these last three years have taken me from inner silence and the nagual part of me.
Yet I don't mind. I make a difference. The sheep they love their sheepdogs, and the wolves are out there and they prey.

[Cliff Ocelot Scot]

Yep, it's true you're on your own. I have read four of Carlos' books in the 14month year long course. And what dawns on me at the moment is something perhaps you're not going to understand or like. " man has an assemblage point" but mine doesn't move. Being in the tonal social smocial world (that's where you smoke and be social) can be likenened from going doorway to doorway. Remember that!
Men that are unemployed end up in other men's lobbies.
Farfetched as it may seem the answer was to think or say with authority.
One word and it will all come out in the wash so to speak.
Like an overstuffed closet.
Not to question Spring.
IT IS the nagual.
However due to this sorcerer's bent I must tell you the nagual comes in threes. What my nagual tells me at this point is to be impeccable. Walk your path with heart...
Heart: IT IS the same die or sing. A poem for the nagual lonewolf

[Nagual LoneWolf]

Thanks Scotfree..you dance the subliminal thought.
And Hesses...I did read some of his work along time ago, it seemed moody.
One more night, one more day, one more fight, one more way.

[Bob Carr]

I continue to come to this forum because there is inspiration, movement here. Perhaps an event horizon.
My Intent is to contribute to that as well.
LW, I am pleased to hear of your battle as a warrior.
Your Tales of Power, as well as others such as SSilhouette, Charlilla and May are moving and informative.
There is Power in these experiences. I see you on the Path With Heart. Service to life energy is, well, energizing. May I do as well in the time I have left.
As I recall, Sidhartha did not just take a linear journey, but, experienced many different realities.
I must make Hesse my next study, again. (How rare is such insight from a 20th century German!)
So too, are the works of American Sinclair Lewis: 'Babbit' 'Arrowsmith' 'It Can't Happen Here' (not in Kansas, anyway, heh heh!)

Finally, I again request y'all to check out www.carlosoracle.com
Other perspectives about it would be interesting. It also has links to Native and Guru sites. The author of this site can be disdainful, yet there is a level of humor to it, at least when one puts self-reflection aside!Hawkeye and Crow

[Bob May]

Hey Wolf,
"Age the destroyer, works on me in one direction and without going into detail, my life/its tonal has changed:
Where I lived most of my life along the fringes of society. A true lone wolf, this new part of my life is very different.
I came back into the world. I changed careers and by doing that I threw myself back into the tonal of western society."
Your life seems to run parallel to mine in these things.
"This type of life I live, takes it toll. I dream of violence and suffer bouts of sleeplessness, the spirt is with me as always but I am not the same with it.
Other changes as well these last three years have taken me from inner silence and the nagual part of me.
Yet I don't mind. I make a difference."
Again some parallels. I can relate to and empathize with this. Be grateful of this difference you are making. Most people do not get such a chance.
But I believe it is possible to live in both worlds at once. Call it controlled folly or "In the world but not of the world" whichever you prefer.
That is our challenge and at various times in our lives more or less difficult to accomplish. As the veil thins it all seems to become one thing instead of two. Less of an accomplishment, as if we were doing it, and more like a play that we are watching. Yet,at the same time, we are also actors in this play. At the mercy of an unseen Director.
I seem to be powerless lately and so I watch and wait, wondering what will happen next.
I guess you could say my life has caught my interest. It certainly has taken some unexpected turns lately.Bob

[Nagual LoneWolf]

ThanKs Mays..you both inspire me with your insights as well.
Carlosoracle I have found a few years back. I good site, one that isn't for the general public I would venture.
We who are of this moment know we are out there and thus it smooths the lonly existence.

[Bob Carr]

and Genaro's farts!
I wrote myself a note to mention this. Hopefully not off topic, as carlosoracle seems like that; a big Raspberry!
Genero would show his ass to Carlos as a kind of op-ed. That has stuck with me. Too many of us are too HEAVY, and it blocks Spirit, as I interpret it. Obsessions. Anal Retentive. Passive-Aggressive.
What led me to this comment is that I noticed that, generally, after 'Second Ring of Power' ,Genaro disappears from the story. When he is mentioned, there is, at least to me , a negativity. He is usually described as Asleep or Uninvolved.
Carlos was afraid of Genero, according to his own account.
So, it is likely that he would avoid thinking about him.
Who wouldn't, among us average humans?
But, our issue is to rise beyond such petty fears, is it not?
Hah! Muslims Muslims and Terrorists. Right?
I guess that is what draws me to the Warrior. I was raised so Bourgeousie (sp) , so weak and trembling. The whole USA is like that now, blinded by Consumerism and all this focus on other people: Paris Hilton!
The Spirit is land and birds and dogs and....
Know what I mean?
Anything but Navel Gazing, Self-Reflection.
OK Sorry for the Rant. What got into me?
Same old stuff ,I guess.
Really, the point is that Genero, and don Juan, could laugh at this Pomposity of modern society and all its so-called advancement.
A big Raspberry to all the Stuffed-Shirts and self-important Jerks.
Yeah


Hawkeye and Crow

[Bob Carr]

As I took an interest in this thread last month, and commented on it, with remarks from Blackbeard.
Concerning the Nagual and human relations with animals-
Today, I got a copy of 'USA Today"
Within was a half-page AD of a new resort in the Bahamas.
Too ugly!!
The resort is designed as an Aztec/Toltec pyramid with water slides, into which the tourist is plunged into a lagoon wiyh live dolphin and 50,000 exotic sea creatures
Dolphin Cay, book your getaway today.(Text paraphrase)
There is no end to self-reflection/indulgence.
I must say, even as dumb as I can be sometimes, that when I saw Hitchcock,s "The Birds" back in the 1960's, I knew that payback was due, and today there are even some news reports that reflect that. ie: Tiger attacks in San Francisco?Hawkeye and Crow