07-24-2008, 12:00 AM
What is the Eagle's Gift?
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The Eagles Gift
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07-24-2008, 12:00 AM
What is the Eagle's Gift?
07-24-2008, 12:00 AM
The possibility of freedom. That's the gift. The opportunity brought down by the direct and indirect instruments of the Spirit. The open invitation to
freedom. Freedom is not a gift but a warrior's conquest. If you don't take The Eagle's Gift, you become The Eagle's Food. It's all the same to the Eagle.
07-24-2008, 12:00 AM
Nagual LoneWolf wrote:
What is the Eagle's Gift? awareness.
07-24-2008, 12:00 AM
Hi all,
I am re-reading it right now for me the gift is remembering second attention in dreaming. something I have trouble with. I know things are happening but I wake up with a blank or watch it dissolve as I awaken. Re-reading is helping though. I believe one of the big keys to memory of this sort is to activate subconscious/solar plexus area where dreaming comes from, in order to get back to that state. I am doing solar plexus meditations (going into the subconscious my teacher used to call it) and it seems to be helping. The dreaming that I am doing seems to be very deep and I am finding myself very groggy upon awakening and taking longer than usual to completely wake up.
07-25-2008, 12:00 AM
Grand is correct. It is the option to sneak past the Ealge.
07-26-2008, 12:00 AM
Bob may, you are correct ,as it reads.
Let the midnight special shine its everlovin' light on me
07-26-2008, 12:00 AM
I might offer some speculation on this subject. My speculation is somewhat based on my own experiences....
The 'old seers' were able to "see" death. From their perspective as 'still-living' separate awarenesses, they "saw" that energy bubbles were 'consumed' by a great mouth in space...., in the sky. They called this the "Eagle", because they identified energies as separate beings,... like them. The 'new seers' followed exactly the same pattern; still identifying separate entities and applying that concept to the "Eagle". Now comes what I call the 'modern seers'. These seers have evolved, just as the 'new seers' did evolve beyond the 'old seers'. The 'modern seers' found that they could enter into filaments; enter into the great web itself! From this position (bad description), they found that they were no longer separate entities! Over time, they discovered that when 'intending', they could 'become' the "Eagle's emanations". A direct result of this knowledge was that the 'modern seers' experienced death as transition. The "Eagle" is a vortex; a consumer of energy. It transforms that energy (awareness) into higher frequencies! Just as a black hole consumes matter and spits it out in higher realms as refined energy, the "Eagle" does the same thing. So, while 'old' and 'new' seers "saw" that the Eagle consumes us, they still "saw" it from the perspective of self. A separate perspective. The 'modern seers' found that death is not the end of awareness. It IS the end of the individual, the self. But awareness continues. The "integrity of awareness" continues. The 'modern seers' found that when entering the filaments, they could traverse beyond the Eagle's act of consuming the self and still exist as the great web itself!!! Don't take MY word for it.....
07-26-2008, 12:00 AM
"The Spirit beareth witness with our spirit that we are the sons of God."
To become one with God or to dissolve into oblivion,.... or to be eaten by the beak of an "Eagle", or to "enter into the filaments" as you say. I think either way one of mankind's greatest fears is to lose "Me" whether you call it individuality or spirit or "keep the integrity of awareness". (I like that description.) I have dissolved into Something and become one with it at what level?, I can't say. But I was still there, though without a lot of the "baggage" I usually carry along. I have no doubt that at death, wherever I go and to whatever level it takes me, I will still be there. Only better. Good post Doktor Green. Food for thought.
07-27-2008, 12:00 AM
The eagle`s gift is a possibility of not being eaten by him, to soon that is.
Now isn`t all that very nice, and poetic.
07-28-2008, 12:00 AM
they still "saw" it from the perspective of self. A separate perspective. The 'modern seers' found that death is not the end of awareness.
It IS the end of the individual, the self. But awareness continues. The "integrity of awareness" continues. The 'modern seers' found that when entering the filaments, they could traverse beyond the Eagle's act of consuming the self and still exist as the great web itself!!! Awesome post Doc! That was a concise and focused explanation and it strikes me as being true, from my own occasional forays into seeing. I would say that Freedom is the end of one's sense of separation or duality. This is possible for us. This is the Possibility we all share. The 'modern seers' found that they could enter into filaments; enter into the great web itself! Paradoxically Awareness (if it's Right Awareness) is already beyond Duality and separation. In other words what Eckhart Tolle calls "the unconditioned" is always available, right here, now. but our attention is addicted to petty distractions, so we always miss it. Separation is in fact an illusion, the Grand Illusion. But if we somehow manage to contact Greater Reality or "the Unconditioned" we ourselves become transformed into the agents of transformation (sorcerers). Our true purpose of Life on Earth is to become agents of transformation. But, we need to find a consistent way to practice it. Because if we don't work at it and practice, then when the end comes we won't be ready.
07-28-2008, 12:00 AM
Vrill wrote:
I would say that Freedom is the end of one's sense of separation or duality. This is possible for us. This is the Possibility we all share. Paradoxically Awareness (if it's Right Awareness) is already beyond Duality and separation. In other words what Eckhart Tolle calls "the unconditioned" is always available, right here, now. but our attention is addicted to petty distractions, so we always miss it. Separation is in fact an illusion, the Grand Illusion. But if we somehow manage to contact Greater Reality or "the Unconditioned" we ourselves become transformed into the agents of transformation (sorcerers). Our true purpose of Life on Earth is to become agents of transformation. But, we need to find a consistent way to practice it. Because if we don't work at it and practice, then when the end comes we won't be ready. Good points. It seems the "individual" perspective is a result of perception. Perception is the act of observation. To observe is to fixate separateness (the observer and the observed). Perception is the result of alignment. We are aligned here; both the internal filaments and external filaments match up. To shift to another set of filaments is a shift in perception and one perceives new dimensions. If one shifts sufficiently far enough, one can perceive the "Eagle"; the great vortex that eats individuality. What I am proposing here is a drastic change from the teachings of don Juan; not different, beyond! Instead of shifting the Assemblage Point to another set of fibers, I propose that one shift first from dreaming (2nd attention) to the place of no place. I mean a shift to a place of observing the Eagle's Emanations, the great web. THEN, one shifts via intent INTO THE FILAMENTS. Pick a single strand. Approach it and 'see' the pulses through the translucent fiber. Stop the perception (same as stopping the world, but in that place). Intent is a movement at this level. Open intent and ENTER THE FIBER. One immediately becomes ALL fibers within the available spectrum. All the Emanations. One instantly KNOWS that the Eagle is transforming energy to higher frequencies! (One instantly KNOWS many other things as well...). Alas, even this has limits, as there are collections of fibrous bundles that we can access, but there are finer and finer vibrating bundles that we cannot, as long as we are tied to the tonal. Truly an infinite universe! Note: I began this description at a point that assumes that one has dreaming access in the daytime and can recall what one experiences. For those 'modern seers' that try this, I would offer that upon entry into the filaments, one must have the highest level of saved energy. One must have lost the human form and be able to withstand the shock of losing perception. And one must have a method of return; a comfortable feeling or act that one can assume to re-align with your form of preference. I suggest that one confirm this method between dreaming and the tonal, or between dreaming locations.
04-02-2009, 12:00 AM
Could the EAGLE be perceived by some as GOD?
I don't think it is but would like to know what ya all think?
04-08-2009, 12:00 AM
Eagle as I read in Castaneda's books is the force of death not anytype of god like being. The Eagle that consumes all them makes them reborn again that is
what the Eagle is in my knowledge so far but be free to comment on it.
08-26-2010, 12:00 AM
dj mentioned that religious types believe that god gives love, seers see the eagle do so as awareness
10-18-2010, 12:00 AM
Through out my life I have had memory's that seem to stand out. Odd nonsensical things that stick with me. One of which is what follows. I was about 7 or 8 years old. Up the road from my house lived my auntie Nina and my uncle Ray. I was sitting cross legged on the floor and I had a vision. I likened this vision to be something like the sea stretching out for all the horizon but in the sea was a huge thing that stretched up in to the sky. I struggled to try and get the vision in perspective but I could not. Looking back I feel that I may have been remembering the eagle. I even hear it squawk when I think about it lol!!!!!
03-06-2012, 12:00 AM
as gift is the possibility to live. And live again when humans fail to comprehend the reason for their existence. One of the most common ways to err would be to expect more then is already given, perhaps would help self importance exist, i suspect nothing more.
05-16-2012, 12:00 AM
There is something more and humans continue to not comprehend the reason for existence which is to breed and continue the species. The greater plan is only the eagle's design.
05-24-2012, 12:00 AM
05-24-2012, 12:00 AM
Being that I cannot edit this page (even my own comment) I am adding this seperate comment to provide the title of the video in my last post...as I forgot to add it at the time of the initial posting.
05-24-2012, 12:00 AM
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Abstract core of Freedom.
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