Dying a mortal death.

[Nagual LoneWolf]

There is no one way path to knowledge.All forms and variations are governed by the nagual that enables a warrior
to approach infinity.If a warrior chooses a certain path and seems to not have enough personal power he can still become adept enough at his particular path.He still will have the end result of death before he could attain freedom.
In other words it is still worth being on this path even if one fails and dies a mortal's death.
The only fault with this is that one did not have their final battle with the eagle.
The Lone Wolf

[Guest]

Yes. I am, I feel that I am, more alive than ever before! Being warrior is worth it. The common people try to be more alive, but it's impossible by endless parting and drinking and all those things that make them feel alive. Every next time they need more. And they forget the first time. They forget that every time (anything) is worth enjoying like the first (and last).
BTW I just missed the concert I've waited for a month...
But if one dies to mortal death- do they lose the consciousness? From what it depends? Some do remember their past lives.
2) What happens to people in coma? To their shining bodies? They have some psysical reflexes. Does it mean the psysical body's self-defence?

[Nagual LoneWolf]

It is known that when one dies they "join up" with the energy of the universe which draws them up.If they refuse they may dwell as earthbound spirits for a undetermined amount of time but usually they succumbed sooner or later to the pull of this power.In nagualism this power is called the "eagle".They go up and and become part of it.It is believed by the old seers that their awareness was fed upon by the eagle and that their spirit was no more.This remains to be proven.Some have came back and were never afraid of dying again.
If one has enough power to get past the eagle then they can journey to other worlds and be neither earthbound or devoured.
People in a coma are still earthbound(that is my belief).
Shining bodies are only of those who have lit their inner energy
with the outside energy of the universe and have been consumed by the fire from within by doing this.Most mortals
have not the shining bodies unless they are very young,a mutation,or they are free in their hearts and mind from the foreign installation.
Animal reflexes are a biological product of the body is all, to answer the last question.
These answers are from the core of nagualism loggei.
The Lone Wolf

[cal2999]

HA all ive just been reading all these new posts and as interesting as it my be i would just like to say,There is no definate answer to any situation.EG.A person in a coma is earth bound.How can U say eather way each indervidual has his/herz own path.U all should be more aware of limitinG yourselfz and otherz,U might have more efect than U know.And if not it is good to leave thingz open at both endz.AS inderviduals and worriorz and witches,We know that anything can be.SO why limite yourselfs????? ANYway itz good to be back,and by the way the Mushies R plenty this season here in OZ ITZ such a lovely feel to go munching in tthe woodz.I will let U know more as i go.HAVE a nice day or nite all were ever U may be....LOV CALis

[Nagual LoneWolf]

Thanks Cal..good to see you again as well!

[Guest]

Without the power to ignite the totality of the light fibers composing the totality of it's being, or the ability to create a full void portal big enough for it's body to pass, even a liniage not only a nagual will die a mortal death. How long before that takes place, depends on the status of the entity and how it repents it's past, present and future actions, that is the fact that determines the extent of it's agony not the Eagle's will ( depending on the circumstances can take a very very long time if must, it can be an incredibly patient entity). The creator does not fight it's creatures because it is aware of the importance of every one of the beings dependent on it, it is aware of it's own power and the mind of humans. What the Eagle does upon on a mortal or nagual death: it receives whatever is left from the luminous cocoon it once was, that however happens when a mortal awareness is considered purified enough to pass at least the dream guardians to reach it again. Because the Eagle cannot ready for rebirth something unholy, nor is willing to correct postmortem errors in judgement and action, the human or nagual must do that for itself while alive before it reaches the creator's proximity.

[mocomoracho]

Yes ..On awakening i knew this also.

[mocomoracho]

Re birth ? unknown and unknowable.

[mocomoracho]

Global

[Guest]

Because the nagual is born human it bows to the laws that govern it's species so, the Eagle made an agreement with those that become powerful beings: it gave them the opportunity to choose their own end. The alternative death for them was the final gift the Eagle offered for their impeccable existence ( it was the request of this particular liniage, others choose gifts that suited them more). When time comes for a nagual to leave this earth the Eagle offers what they are unable to do with their personal power, in DJ case it opened a void portal for all the members of his party.

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