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Once a warrior has brought his energy together he will find
the space he is in has changed.There is a different density to the air as one example.
Sounds are very powerful and the warrior will find his voice now carries great power.
Exchanges between people can be percieved as two interwining
laces that seem to dance across the area between them.
A distant bond can be made by using the eyes thus cementing
a communication across thousand of miles.
The warrior soon will discover he has much more focus and his intent is something that must be harnassed.
One who has not realized the change, will and often do send out like projectiles their feelings and affect others in ways barely percieved.
You see there are many types of us in the world and since we are all basically closed systems we rarely relate our realities.
The place a serial killer lives in and that of a monk in Tibet are not only very far away but they are in different worlds of the assemblage point.
This place of the warrior is arrived at by various ways but once there few ever return to ordinary lives.
Lone Wolf
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I apologize for bombarding you with questions Lone Wolf, but this is the first message board of this kind that I have found and I am eager to express myself. I read a lot and in the context of Castaneda's books (most of which I have read)and though I comprehend,the application of such practices have been a great obstacle to me. I find very few people who are knowledgable on the subject and even fewer who can parley with me. I rarely dream (when I do they are not of substance or not illuminating) and "see" only at the most superficial level. I attribute this to insufficient power of my energy body. This may not be a question easily answered and I understand you would need to know about me personally to suggest changes in my lifestyle, but can you give me an example of the ways which the energy body may be reached as I have only experienced this on occasion under extraordinary circumstances and seemingly by chance.
Any help or words of advice would be fully appreciated,
Mike - A Daoist Seeking his Energy Body
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I was not raised in a tradition of a warrior, but because of things which happened to me in life, I learned very early that there was a spiritworld, a realm of dreaming that was real. I was very sick as a kid, having strep- throat and pneumonia, and during terrible fevers I was thrown into dreams of being stranded on a rowboat in an ocean that was seething with black crabs as far as the eye could see. I know now I was battling against the microscopic world, for as the years past, and I got stronger, my boat became an island, and I was able to hunt the microbes down individually. Eventually I killed them all off, and was never sick with strep again. It took years, and not without its dangers. This may not seem the beginning of a warriors life, but there was a time that I nearly died, and I left my body. I was ten years old, and before that I had never known the energy of my body, or the mystery of the other world. I only know that when I regained my strength something inside me had changed. I knew I was different somehow,--I saw things--saw inside things--humans, animals, plants. I senced things about situations, and knew what would happen next. Many times I tried to explain how I knew, and I would be laughed at, or ignored. I learned to keep the other world to myself, but it had a way of sneaking up on me, and of overwhelming the ordinary life I was living. I was just a kid, but I found myself living in a world that was half dream, half everyday.
It wasn't until I was older, in my early twenties that I experienced something that would make me realize that my energy body had been forever changed, and my perception of life no longer valid as I had learned to understand it. Not to go in to detail, but it was after this experience that I chanced to read Tales of Power, and understood for the first time that I had STOPPED THE WORLD. I can't tell you how, or why, but it happened. Nothing can prepare you for that moment--maybe everything leading up to it will make sence later on, but when it happened to me, I realized who I was, what my energy was, what it was ment for.
I guess I have learned the hard way about many things in life.
I have made my share of mistakes. I'm no saint, no monk, no leader of men, no healer. In my way I've tried to make peace with the energy, to keep it safe, to keep it alive and directed towards the good, but deep down I know its potential is powerful, and I know I may never know why ME. Only today in the hills I felt the energy reaching out beyond me, and could only honor it in some simple way--by remembering the ancestors, the dreamers, the spirits of life. I returned to the city once again, wondering if I would have the heart to live in both worlds.
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Hello to both of you.
(Sunbarbarian, reading your tale most vividly reminds me of what I too experienced when it happened to me.There is only
the direct focus left.)
To reach one's individual energy body is a quite personal thing.Some will destroy their lives and self before it will be an option.
Let go of your self. You are nothing. Your are being stalked by death. Will you wait for it or pretend you will live forever or will you be a warrior against it?
Battle Of Every Soul for breath.
The nagual ways are the way to reach within and without.
Practice and change.
Change how you think.
Stalk yourself.
Set up your dreaming
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Change how you think.
Thats really powerful. Actors do it, but they think... they are acting... and have a real self to pick up eventually. But to really change your thinking is to really change your real self.
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Imagine spending a whole day or more thinking differently then the way you normally would think. Maybe whats weirdest if all is there being a way we 'normally' think. Like we act as if we have no other options, yet all we truly have IS other options.
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Dear All,
When it comes to advice about this the first thing that came to my mind was yes, change your life. A path with heart will change your life and you will start to fall in love with who you are which will in turn allow you to fall in love with all of life.
Warm regards,
LP
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I would like to add that the more one goes with that path the more one sees life. You will see the suffering and pains of living beings, feel their want of love, of needing. In this world is much that is filtered through the eyes of the FI when in reality it could be different. We who are warriors of the spirit love and in that love we find what is not love. There is much to fix and repair in every city, every country, in every person.
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Yes, I think people rarely see other people around them because they are so clogged up inside, their inside becomes their outside reflections. Everyone will say they see others, but its actually not happening as they think. At least, thats what the desert fox said. Perhaps foxes truly observe (as power animals) that they internally are the sum of that observation.
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I have noticed that there is different ways to see somebody. I think I can relate to being clogged up inside. I have had the experience with the fox! And for me being cunning is actually a way of looking at the world or maybe more a way of looking myself. Once I got in to the most terrifying trouble seeing people, I actually could pause and rewind time or more life threateningly importantly, the process of people in time. I kept focusing on these girls in front of me, they were discussing who's line it was between them. Soon after I came round a little to find that the whole group of people I was with had now gathered around me in what seemed like a trial to decide weather I was going to live or die. These were just normal people (I say normal...) but according to my perception were now the law! That was a really strange night.
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Oh, I didn't mean the fox as cunning (though that is one trait associated with them) I meant that foxes are such good observers that they are really part of the environment and product of what they are observing.
So, say you see a person crying, and you observe them. And instead of thinking "that person is sad" and then all the analysis/interpretation that goes with it..you instead feel that feeling they are having, experience it as their perspective so you are in essence in that persons shoes...in a sense. And if you are in their shoes, the idea of separateness cannot be so profound at all.
So I was incorporating Lonewolf's post into my thoughts when I was speaking of the fox as the observer.
To be cunning, yes, I think to be cunning when observing oneself is very very helpful...due to the inner processes that occur. Because these inner processes also will reflect/effect the without.
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Yeah I was just blabbing.
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Nagual LoneWolf wrote:I would like to add that the more one goes with that path the more one sees life. You will see the suffering and pains of living beings, feel their want of love, of needing. In this world is much that is filtered through the eyes of the FI when in reality it could be different. We who are warriors of the spirit love and in that love we find what is not love. There is much to fix and repair in every city, every country, in every person.
^ Absolutely...and the more one sees suffering the more one is moved to a certain position in relation to this world. Perhaps, a proper position for a warrior facing the rest of their path. However, I would disagree on the fixing part. I happen to consider that there is an inate intelligence to the design.
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True Barefoot, but also fixing is part of the design in that it is the purpose (path) to develop further (evolve) for both parties involved.
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That is...one does not 'have' to take a path of helping others...but if one does, it allows them access of more selfless (higher energetic bands) awareness. The helping in turn enables another (the one being helped) to receive intervention upon what they cannot do for themselves at a particular juncture in their development.
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A relevant quote from Richard Bach's "Illusions":
The measure of your ignorance is the depth of your belief in injustice and tragedy.
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To suffer is a tragedy, because it is unnecessary.
My niece has a tattoo she got..."pain is unavoidable, suffering is optional".
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What I was referring to as intellegence in the design is the suffering aspect of life. When one suffers one seeks...one stretches themselves and grows, developing spiritually. True, there is something gained by the giver in giving a man a fish...but that gain came at the cost of the man who received the fish for that day he did not struggle towards his own eveolution.
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It's not that everyone struggles alone either. Sometimes there is help and teachers, other times one relies on oneself.
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All meaningful dialogue but the aspect of the fixing applies to mankind's slavery from the foreign installation and its effects. I have seen much suffering and most of the people suffering were not on a spiritual path. I half caught a more recent film on cable in which Woody Allen was a actor in. There was a quote from his character that went something like this: After what mankind did to itself during World War 2 in Germany with the purging of the jews it no longer had the right to exist. Thus it deserves no future.
Another film I watched recently "The Road" about a father and son trying to survive a dying earth, no food, cannibalism a way of life for may still alive, disturbing film but spot on with the influence of the foreign installation.
What is there to fix? Your minds.
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Well said! I think the foreign installation has become sidelined in discussions lately, and for us warriors it is really the main first hurdle to overcome...so an important topic and even more important is actions taken to see it and be rid of its influence. When humans begin to talk..and I mean in general, they talk about this influence in indirect ways...mainly because the influence seeks to keep hidden and is quite sucessful in that regard. Such as...a coworker may say...I hate that person, without examining their own act of hating, instead choosing to see the other in negative light rather then take responsibility for own thoughts and emotions generating such perception. One can change oneself and thus change the external environment in beneficial (new...unchartered territory) ways...but not everyone sees this but some do and thus have a unique path/option much of humanity does not realize.
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Nagual LoneWolf wrote:All meaningful dialogue but the aspect of the fixing applies to mankind's slavery from the foreign installation and its effects. I have seen much suffering and most of the people suffering were not on a spiritual path.
What is there to fix? Your minds.
There is much suffering, and I would reaasert that there is an intellegence in the design. ^ However, there are many who are not on their spiritual path (yet) who are having the time of their life...sex, money, power are all seductive guises of the physical plane. There is an intellegience to the design of that too. As one evolves, one begins to see through these things. When one has had enough chasing sex, money, and power they see it as empty and unsatisfying. Until one has had enough, however, the allure remains compelling. When one sees these things are empty, one sees suffering. Suffering is a big clue. Touching a hot coal our hand feels pain and our natural instict is to move away from the pain. The suffering is there to keep people moving in a certain spiritual direction. Nature created perfectly, and with a superior intellegence than our own.
The notion of fixing comes from a point of view wherein you haven't (yet) accepted a person's evolution. It can be hard to accept another in their evolutionary position, but can we really love someone if we do not accept them where they are...and what help can be rendered if it comes from any position other than love?
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And how do you practice love and acceptance in the world Barefoot?
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Ravenmoon wrote:And how do you practice love and acceptance in the world Barefoot?
Accepting people where they are at. As a gay man I am often in situation where people are not accepting and even fearful and you should hear the kinds of comments that others feel inclined to say to me. Accepting people where they are at means accepting where they come from and allowing them to be how they are, and loving them as they are without requiring them to change. The majority of the USA does not accept gay marriage, or recognize the value someone such as myself places on my relationship with my partner, and although this has a definite impact on our lives it is what it is, a reflection of where people are at.
What changed this for me was when I told my father, whom I loved and adored and was always trying to win his affection. When I came out to my father he couldn't speak to me and this went on for years. I was crushed...at first. Eventually I gave up and involved myself with my life without my father. For a while I had a great life and I believed myself to be over wanting his approval. However, when my father began experiencing the affects of heart disease I was forced to confront all the old feelings that lay buried of how much it hurt me that he could no longer accept me. During the trip home, however, I came to a place where I could accept my father and love him as he was without needing him to accept me...and this proved to be a real catharsis for me.
I suppose it doesn't mean much for others, but for me it was life changing. As I worked on meditation and expanding my consciousness the impact of the experience with my father allowed me to see people where they are at and be ok with that. It allowed me to see that there were things that people had to work out as part of their evolution and that process of evolution was beautiful to me. I could force my point of view on people, make them feel as though they should accept gay people, but then I realized that their inability to accept my gayness and my being openly gay was a part of the evolutionary process. This awakening made it possible for me to accept people where they are at. It also made it possible, because I saw the evolutionary process as divinely beautiful, to have such reverance for the process as to let it takes its course without needing to interfer with it. Seeing someone in their evolutionary process, usually while they are making disparaging remarks against me or my partner, I am filled with love for them.
Now that I have described how I practice acceptance and love, consider how you feel when someone feels they need to fix you? Although they might have the best of intentions, does it leave you feeling loved?
The desire to fix others comes from the place where one sees others as suffering. There are a lot of people in this world who think homosexuality is an illness that needs fixing and there are many who would try to fix me if I gave them a chance. I could stand in the place where I see those who do not accept homosexuality as suffering and desire to fix them. However, that point of view and those desires, however well intentioned, have very little to do with love and usually do not leave the recipient feeling that they are loved...just something to consider.
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