The Oracle

[Blackbeardd]

LW: Now he'll ask what I see. The spirit has ultimate patience which such type of people, even if they are dutch.
OK, shoot: what do you see?

[Nagual LoneWolf]

Char..no then.
Abe: What I see you wouldn't accept. Lone Wolf

[Blackbeardd]

Does the possibility that I might not accept whatever you see be a hindrance for you posting what you see?
It never stopped Sillhouette, lol...

Come on, tell me.

[charlila]

LoneWolf - the subject is closed, as concerns you?

[Nagual LoneWolf]

It is not the lone wolf as it is the Oracle, Charlila, you do not ask me, you ask the Oracle. It has answered what it will.

[charlila]

ok, thank a lot.

[SSilhouette]

Quoteoes the possibility that I might not accept whatever you see be a hindrance for you posting what you see?
It never stopped Sillhouette, lol...~Abe
Has it ever occured to you that your "acceptance" of one thing or another does not weigh on its veracity?
Not one iota?
We are here to challenge each other, to stretch each other's minds beyond the comfy little cushions that they're used to.
It is possible that you are wrong about yourself. It is possible that via your hoped self-image you have ignored the numerous little reminders that you might not be all you've cracked yourself up to be.
You're reading this now seething that I'd be daring enough to point it out. And yet my gesture couldn't be more friendly.
And when you see just how true that is, you will have become a man of knowledge. Right now your just a warrior; which is still better than just an average man. We all start out like that, full of our preassumed judgements about ourselves..and we get mad at the world for not agreeing with us."The Reality Is That You Will Die. The Uncertainty Is What Will Happen After That.."

[Blackbeardd]

Has it ever occured to you that your "acceptance" of one thing or another does not weigh on its veracity?
Yes, it has. Has the same occurred to you too?
We are here to challenge each other, to stretch each other's minds beyond the comfy little cushions that they're used to.
That means you will be challenged to....like your uncontrollable urge to teach.
It is possible that you are wrong about yourself. It is possible that via your hoped self-image you have ignored the numerous little reminders that you might not be all you've cracked yourself up to be.
Numerous little reminders...lol. Whatever you saw about me was always dead wrong. You never accepted that, did you? So to you it was me rejecting all that free wisdom you offered me..Right.
You're reading this now seething that I'd be daring enough to point it out. And yet my gesture couldn't be more friendly.
Wrong again, it think it's quite funny to see you speak while you weren't asked anything. But I am already getting quite accustomed to your urge to teach.
Maybe you should question yourself: "Why do I do this?"
And when you see just how true that is, you will have become a man of knowledge. Right now your just a warrior; which is still better than just an average man. We all start out like that, full of our preassumed judgements about ourselves..and we get mad at the world for not agreeing with us.
The problem with that last sentence of your is that you have to be a (wo)man of knowledge yourself to know I haven't become one myself. You haven't shown me anything than prejudice. Just one (of many) example(s) : we both have discussed things, well, I was present when you wanted to cram your convictions through my throat. So what did you say - repeatedly- when you didn't succeed in converting me: that it must be a man/woman thing, like in me, as a man, not accepting that you, a woman, tries too teach me something. An utterly ridiculous assumption most likely based on your own kneejerk responses to men.
I've talked a lot with women who were much more knowledgable on certain subjects than I was, and had no problems accepting whatever they said. Maybe you don't understand that there is a difference in explaining something and coercing someone to accept whatever you say.

[SSilhouette]

Quote:The problem with that last sentence of your is that you have to be a (wo)man of knowledge yourself to know I haven't become one myself~ Abe
Either that or I learned how to read. See my latest post in The Teachings Of Don Juan thread in my new forum.
LINK
More often than not I'm pointing out my own foibles. In irony it is because I know myself all too well that I can see you.
That's another tip from a friend BTW.
Why do I feel compelled to teach? Because it helps to trim my self-importance by not hoarding hard-won knowledge. And it's harmless anyway. I can share with you an immensity and if you're not ready for it, it will slough off you like water off a duck's back. Someone else might find value in it though, so it's not in vain. "The Reality Is That You Will Die. The Uncertainty Is What Will Happen After That.."

[Blackbeardd]

Quote:Because it helps to trim my self-importance by not hoarding hard-won knowledge.
OK, then I'll help you a bit with that: you have so often been wrong with your seeing me, that it's very hard for me to accept other things you say you are seeing of me.
Of course people make mistakes, but that many makes me doubt your capabilities as a seer.
I'll bet you won't believe it but when I know I am wrong, or someone tells me something that maybe isn't nice but true nevertheless, I will accept it and say it too. In your face or in writing (forum).
But if nothing convinces me of the truth of your words, then no, I won't accept it.
I know you believe in reincarnation, so that's why I am saying you this: maybe you were a zealot priest in one of your past lives and are still trying to get rid of some bad habits you took up during that life.
Oh, and if you don't want to hoard hard-won knowledge, write a book, and throw it in the mob.
You say you are often pointing out your own foibles. But how do you feel if someone else points out one of your foibles to you? *I* know I'm a stubborn ass, so people have to do a little bit more than just preach their truths to me.
BTW: It's the 4th of July now (in Holland that is) so I wish you all a happy..eh..what do you call it? I should be celibrating too (being 50 yrs old for about 15 minutes now), but I am not interested in celebrating having survived for another year, lol!
BB.

[SSilhouette]

Oh, I forgot to add that teaching helps me to remember what I know. Without it, I would forget everything and all that hard work would slip right out the top of my head.
(I posted this before on this thread and somehow it jumped over to the Lone Wolf thread?? And now I don't have an edit option...weird.)
"The Reality Is That You Will Die. The Uncertainty Is What Will Happen After That.."

[charlila]

Quote:*I* know I'm a stubborn ass, so people have to do a little bit more than just preach their truths to me
tested and validated
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(last post, for the time being)
and happy birthday Abe!
may your friends surprise you with an outrageous celebration!

[Blackbeardd]

Sorry Charlila, but I HATE birthdays!
I do hope everybody I know forgets about it, or remembers how I feel about it.
Never mind....I already received two birthday cards.

[Blackbeardd]

Damn your links, Charlila.
They don't work.

[T Screen]

Can the oracle tell me any thing about any future events that may be of notice? Or any mention about the Pacific?

[Blackbeardd]

Ze Oracle dont want to be questioned, ya hear??
It only talks when it wants to, and that never is when WE want it to...
You can't force your luck..
Or can you?

[Nagual LoneWolf]

an the oracle tell me any thing about any future events that may be of notice? Or any mention about the Pacific?
There is a change of winds. The wind will be warm at first then the chill will be later in the month. There is a pulling in you that appears to be lower in some way or fashion.
I see thin hands and they are extended.
Charlila: Your so far away it is difficult to reach you. All along there has been something that you put up which blocks one such as I. Some are easier to draw to and some not.
Blackbeardd you and Ssil, have a intent. It is one both formed for separate reasons. Tis better you not fight it and instead stalk why the words come your way. You actually bring this on yourself. Maybe not intentionally but nevertheless its in the end your doing. You can wipe the window but it still is a window. Quit wiping and look through it.
Ssil...you follow the spirit and often your hand is moved. Sometimes waiting is achieved by holding back. Let it sink in before driving the nail. Fire will burn when the spark begins on its own.

[Tawwanda]

Hello Nagual Lone Wolf.
It's me kit. I don't really post much anywhere except SR and not much even there either anymore. However, I do enjoy reading your site.
I am in the process of shedding skin, so to speak and although I do not have a specific question, would like to be open to any words that the Oracle may have to offer to me at this time.
I thank you.
kit

[charlila]

understand... i have my own complex about birthdays.
than may Intent summon for you a desirable excuse for happily celebrating (but wasn't i getting absentmindly into the mode of the oracle, saying that? did i?)
link... no edit: here it's again:
p103.ezboard.com/fspiritualitydiscussiongroupfrm20.showMessageRange?topicID=33.topic&start=21&stop=28

[charlila]

LoneWolf: sure, i do keep some gof of fight. (but does xoxo do as well ?)i give up a lot more them some curiousity in order to keep it intact.
not your fault.

[charlila]

gof of fight=fog of fight

[Nagual LoneWolf]

To shed skin is be as a reptile. I do not see that in you.
I sense a color red, there is some sort of flushing, eyes that look up and are shadowed but aware of a dreaming being in the room with you. I see lace and hair pulled up. Its brown hair, thick and a bit wavy, who this is I do not know.
Kit it is good to see you here again. Please check in once in awhile so that the link remains intact. Lone Wolf

[Nagual LoneWolf]

Charlila: I will add you to the ezboard link here..As for Genaro's hat...it was used as a prop but his hat wasn't ever found to be with him. It was in a room where other naguals played with it. Lone Wolf

[delawaredan]

Hi...
Up to the age of 18, i was able to have lucid dreams at will. In fact, i would lie down in the middle of the day, and enter a dream with the intent to lucid dream. i knew then how to shut off my internal dialogue (before reading CC) and would focus on the images that appeared. I remember seeing an eagle often. The images would then become a scene, and then a lucid dream. i had several out of body experiences back then as well....now i am 37 and for the past 18 years, i have not been able to lucid dream. a few times i have been able to locate my hands while dreaming in the recent past.
i am not sure what is now blocking me....any ideas? The only thing i see as a factor is the fact that i met my ex-wife when i was 19 and had my daughter. This brings me to my second question....Don Juan stated that children cause the parent to have holes in the luminous body. Do children hinder a path to knowledge (or the ability to manipulate the AP due to the holes)? Does human sexual desire do the same?
My girl is ten and I am raising her myself, she does take much energy but I feel like she brings to me a greater connection to the spirit. The whole concept of love and children has baffled me in how it relates to the teachings of DJ.
Thank you
daniel

[Tawwanda]

Hi Lone Wolf.
Maybe shedding skin wasn't the right term to express what is occurring. Maybe expansion...growing beyond old ways of perceiving...transition certainly.
Red has always been one of my favourite colours. I find it to be a very warm, sensuous, comforting colour...alive.
My hair isn't brown, so I imagine it's not me...hmm..long or short?
Can you tell me anything about the dreaming being?
Good to see you too Lone Wolf and thank you for your time. Will you be making the move to yuku?