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Buddha (in nikaya): This is Hunter... wake up, this is buddhism
"That sixth center of energy," he said, "doesn't quite belong to man. You see, we human beings are under siege, so to speak. That center has been taken over by an invader, an unseen predator. And the only way to overcome this predator is by fortifying all the other centers."
"Isn't it a bit paranoiac to feel that we are under siege, don Juan?" I asked.
"Well, maybe for you, but certainly not for me," he replied. "I see energy, and I see that the energy over the center on the top of the head doesn't fluctuate like the energy of the other centers. It has a back-and-forth movement, quite disgusting, and quite foreign. I also see that in a sorcerer who has been capable of vanquishing the mind, which sorcerers call a foreign installation, the fluctuation of that center has become exactly like the fluctuation of all the others."
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Rain Delux wrote:LoneWolf,
It’s been a while. A friend of
a friend asked me where I used to post, so I looked you up. I see
many of the old names, but this post interested me.
Back then I only read nine of his
books and I found lies within his work and I came to the conclusion
that I couldn’t help, or be helped by anyone. In the end I
withdrew.
I found all of Carlos’ work to be
within this post. It is 80% true, but the lie is a killer. Knowing
what is what allows you to see why Carlos failed, why everyone was
the way they were in the books.
Why would the FI allow Carlos’
work to exist? It is flawed. It makes you gut your current false
mind, wear it as a suit, collect a foreign entity so you smell like
the FI in order to create the illusion of freedom. You will still
carry the seed of the false mind. It doesn’t care.
Lies... Carlos is storytelling.. so yes you might find holes in the story as DeMille write about
That is beside the main point of CCs writing though. There is a true teaching vowed into the books by Don Juan.
You got to dig out the gold and try it out for yourself to check if it is valid or not
I can witness that there is living 'sorcerer' lineages out there, CC is just the messenger for Don Juans lineag that still is out there!
All things within the world of man
is of the FI. The FI is a collective and is stronger in numbers, so
even entering this forum is like walking into a puddle made by all
those who post here. It’s a parasite and if the human race was so
powerful, how could something so small enslave us?
Good question, but I rather ask how do we end it?
Rain Delux you know your own inner demons?
Tell me Oracle, what is a master
without slaves?
he is a free man, a master of life
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We live in an era of the many seeking mastery over the many. Few who seek mastery of the self. Such is the challenge of this era, to see where true power lives.
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And, ironically, many benefit from the art of one's own self mastery...perhaps to the point of unspoken inspiration to pursue mastery of themselves as well
A revolution of this nature could very well tip the scales for humanity
It's possible!
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Yes, good point...many benefit from the anomaly when encountered.
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glance left wrote: And, ironically, many benefit from the art of one's own self mastery...perhaps to the point of unspoken inspiration to pursue mastery of themselves as well
A revolution of this nature could very well tip the scales for humanity
It's possible!Mastery of Self Revolution! Yes ))
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The typical pursuits/goals/revolutions/preoccupations of modern social man are ultimately dead ends...and on some level, we know it down deep....we know its a fad that is doomed to wane and disperse and, unfortunately, that we inevitably disperse right along with it if invested deeply enough. And yet we feel compelled to pursue it, right to the bitter end. That's the foreign installment....and evidence of it is all the never-ending self-agrandising thoughts that drive us to preoccupation along these lines.
The great thing about pursuing inner silence is that, upon laying hold of it....tasting of its gathering momentum...one recognizes that it is the only road that is perennially open...that knows no bounds...that opens progressively straight into the heart of infinity. It's the deepest secret! So profound and mysterious and yet is the epitome of the ultimate irony...because its right here at our disposal 24/7. So intimately available, we hardly ever notice its existence. It's crazy!!!
Silence is the way
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glance left wrote:The great thing about pursuing inner silence is that, upon laying hold of it....tasting of its gathering momentum...one recognizes that it is the only road that is perennially open...that knows no bounds...that opens progressively straight into the heart of infinity. It's the deepest secret! So profound and mysterious and yet is the epitome of the ultimate irony...because its right here at our disposal 24/7. So intimately available, we hardly ever notice its existence. It's crazy!!!
Silence is the wayOOOiii )))
I so agree glance
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This was a good read and a good thread. My temples have been tingling nonstop, kudos.
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Don Juan continued by saying that The Indescribable Force didn't even exist, which is a contradiction by him previously teaching us about it. Any comments on that?
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The whole world is contradicting itself,,,, the night and day etc........
The point is that the knowledge what Don Juan had while he was in "that" body is undescribable to the knowledge he has now, because in his own words that were just a bits and shits, now its more of a parts and goods, but still the parts are bits, because the more you know the less you know, because you grow into nagual and into tonal, and because fo that even what you learn as one year old you will have to unlearn as 10 year old because you can act the same all the time.... Change is the Answer.
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It sounds like another way to get someone to defeat their internal dialogues. To get people to suspend and question their beliefs. Naturally the ancient culture of sorcerers spent endless amounts of energy battling what they knew of the world, their internal dialogues responsible for sustaining their view of the world. I think they started to perceive enemies inside of their own mind, and isolating it as a separate entity, creating a split in their consciousness. Remember awareness generates perception, and so whatever awareness you possess will create your perception. If you possess awareness of other entities inside your mind then your creative potential will divide and manifest that reaction. I suggest creating a symbiotic relationship with them as I have done. By focusing on a solution energy can be free to flow in that direction, and no longer will your awareness be fueling a problematic pattern. Separate entities, spirit like beings, that can manifest consciousness can be a real treat to possess. You can have them shape and form their consciousness to be very helpful. I agree that if you have encountered an entity bent on keeping you from power then you must fight. But be careful in dreaming your mind as an enemy. It is merely doing its job in sustaining your current level of awareness. It is up to you how you want to form that awareness. New awareness creates new pathways. Your thoughts should be your own, if you encounter a belief or thought that you do not want to agree with you have the mobility to form a new way. The focus of attention on a new way frees the energy from the old way and puts it to finding a solution. Don`t be so quick to cut off the channels of free flowing energy we possess and give them up to another entity. We have a natural awareness giving force which i call the source of flowing consciousness. It is guided by intent and not some negative entity. If you have some negative entity jumping in the way of this force and giving you a bad deal simply intend to form your own thoughts, separate from the entity and invest your power into those thoughts. Make everything a choice.
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The thing is there are two worlds somehing which wants to stay, and something wishing a leave;fear of death - of loosing, beign lost.
In my tradition we call the two voices, the inner and outer world, winds of change, because if one has to stay himself, it is true his stances, moods and feeling towards the circum,stances, the foreign installation is an Echo of our actions...
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NagualHuman wrote:The thing is there are two worlds somehing which wants to stay, and something wishing a leave;fear of death - of loosing, beign lost.
In my tradition we call the two voices, the inner and outer world, winds of change, because if one has to stay himself, it is true his stances, moods and feeling towards the circum,stances, the foreign installation is an Echo of our actions...The only thing i understand of this post is
the inner and outer world
this is beautiful
the ego and FI working with aligning with consensual reality -tonal - the outer world
the inner voice... the whispering of nagual side of us..
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