Laniakea;Her word.

[Finwe]

"Perception is design,
throughout proportions of hook-uped channels in sight of aware transceivers."                                                                                                                          

Extent of Her Voice

Language of Sun

Sun shines constantly and forever, for people for unimaginable amount of time, Sun doesnt need anything, only itself, it lives by the fact that its glows and shines into the infinite ever-expanding darkness of Space vacuum. Mediating heat, the basic prerequisite for substantial amount of chemical and natural processes of photosynthesis and carbon based life. If we imagine that we are Sun and we shine on the world. The Our life that is all around same as the stars on the expanding vacuum up there - summarized and underlined.It gives life, glow, warms itself and everything around and gives light/life and shines by speed of light on everything around and even that light never stops, until we give some solid (permanent,psychical block) object into its way, and if someone would try to harm or do something to sun, by striking it or running into, that it has no chance because the sun will immidiately sears that object and its transform that object into his own light.Nothing can prevail in the physical world the strenght of the sun, and we are luminous/lightfull/glourious and puerile beigns that in essence and behind the fasade of solid matter are the suns or luminous eggs is you do not want, yet need - shine onto.

The thing is if we must be able to shine more and more, to create by every moment something new that will makes us better, that is the point of getting power, to be able to do something more, but same as the muscle grow, something we must even through pain or exhaustion get more from ourselves for what we are and same it is with our thoughs with our points of view and our lifesight, which extends by the amount of how much more we are able to gaze on that abstract horizon of freedom. Our eyes or rather said - something in mind tries to get us to close them,to close the eyes before the beauty of endless mystery.


Language of Black Hole

Black Hole never and nowhere ends, for eternity. It doesnt need anything it gives a *** on everything and its eats everything that gets to the vicinity of its gravity, It grows by the fact that it eats everything the more it becomes the bigger it get, no matter what and the bigger gravity it have for more and more growing/being. Its blackness is so deep that noone can see the end of it, noone know where it ends only the Black Sun which knows that it doesnt end.We pulling the matter which we are more and more to our vicinity, beign center of force, never-ending void...
In reality we are Black Holes, we eat we grow and are trying to pull the best things and feelings to our vicinity, we do make everything that comes into our own greatness in a way.
 We are Suns and even the Black Holes, the luminous egg have inside of it a black space where the reflections between dreams we are making. and we can all teach from these two giants of universe the two archetypes of creation,but as Humans. We are more like the Suns because inside or on outside of our luminous egg,depending on where you are, what you are doing, which mood you  have et cetera) is one point that governs the reflections one sun that governs all the moves, one point that we can by our decisions,intetions,improvisation and willing change move and feel any possible creation that the infinity has and because it is infinite the amount of these spectacular wonders is imaginably infinite and the space still expands same as we every day, its up to us to decide that we are by every second and reaction more and more energized and expanding same like whole universe or not and that point is called Heart.

[Guest]

Thought provoking ideas, Finwe.

My interpretation of what you've said here, and I know there's so many ways to perceive what you've said, is the sun is freedom. Freedom is too abstract for the mind to comprehend and it's through Heart that the mind can fully comprehend the vision of freedom.

The black hole is an ever-expanding vehicle for Heart.

Given the picture of the sun and hole, I find it enlightening to see the sun in the center--black holes are known for lacking light and color.

[Finwe]

and End.

[Oculus]

I just read your post Finwe and liked the way you See black holes and suns as examples we can use to configure our consciousnesses.  On one side we broadcast energy and on the other side we absorb energy.  If we put suns and black holes together then we have something that illuminates completely and something that absorbs completely.
Sounds like Don Juans, admonition, 'Admit Everything Without Admitting Anything'.

[Finwe]

Indeed, a paradox.
Pleasure to meet you and what is your Name ?

[Billy]

Oculus wrote:...configure our consciousness
...put suns and black holes together then we have something that illuminates completely and something that absorbs completely.
...'Admit Everything Without Admitting Anything.'

I smile and tell you Oculus; metaphysically (energetically/spiritually)--suns are impotent relative to black holes.  Put them together and 'they' are black holes!

Admit >(add) Everything???   I Configure my consciousness to OMIT Everything without omitting anything.
{Including black holes (and suns)}

[serloco]

The universe. or time, needs both, a unit to capture everything, every ray of light and everything in the galaxy. And something that emits, creates, expands and fills. The two opposites here are the sun and the black hole. If you want to reach a point where two points of distant time are together at the same point then you need a singularity, which is found in the center of a black hole. It places all things together at the same point. Now the sun expands, a reaction that splits atoms and sends them in different directions, and into different forms, whereas the black hole collects them all and places them together at the same point. A collector. Sun expands while the black hole contracts. Note that when a sun dies its expanse stops and the outward force dies and what is left is what they call the birth of a black hole that sucks everything around it into itself. I disagree that this is the birth of a black hole, but rather the initial sighting of the black holes purpose, or forces. Before is collapses I see that the sun has within it a black hole in balance with the outward expanding force. What this balance brings is light that escapes and reaches out to the galaxy, filling it and shining light onto everything in it, making awareness and the black hole collects all that awareness and places it inside itself. Like a camera. Light both expands outward to capture what it sees and brings back the signal to the home source, the black hole. Light expands and collapses. In the bible it is said that the sun is the feast of God because it sees everything and eats everything. It is omnipresent because it is at all places of time simultaneously. WIthin itself is a black hole, or rather what we have come to call a black hole. Really this force is a balance of life and death to create perpetual motion but humans are not that aware yet.

[serloco]

Consider this, if you want to fill the universe with something new you would have to empty it first. If you want to plant a new crop you must first clear the old one. The reaper of the harvest both clears and retains what it clears. It is postulated that all information is retained within the singularity of a black hole. It means the universe is constantly filling itself, expanding into every form, and clearing itself too, while at the same time keeping what it has made in tact within itself. It is where memory comes from and is made. It is a hard leap to make but you must consider that all points in time and space are omnipresent. The balance of the sun and the blackhole represents an infinite creation maker as well as an infinite destruction maker. Together they work to create everything.

[serloco]

Think about it. What is omnipresent? The space that everything is placed into. Void. We merely fill it with things. WHen all those things are sucked together they are placed in omniformation. and yet this cycle has already been completed and is being completed every moment of every day. THe cycle of the universe is endless and it is always creating new ways and forms and as well retaining the old forms. It is simultaneous time. The beginning and the end, the alpha and the omega. The first and the last and the all.

[DanJones]

I know you can't put physical suns and black holes together, but like with water which is fluid and wet, I find the fluidity is a more useful property whenever my consciousness and water interact.  The same goes for Suns, in that they burn and Illuminate.  The illumination property is more useful.
The same with black holes, they compress and absorb, with the absorbtion being a more useful property.  Things depends on the perspective of which energy body is my primary.

[DanJones]

Interesting how you See serloco.  You are like me in that you pair the Primary Mental Body with the Animal Body to create a mind that does both Seeing and Reflection at the same time.  Very good....

[serloco]

Thanks, but yes you can put suns and black holes together. Fission and fusion on a universal scale places everything both separate and together at the same point. Infinite diversity within one omnipresent form. Everything can be placed into a singularity. Placing the sun and the blackhole together can create a timetravel device and teleportation device that can manifest you in any concievable time and place instantly. It can also conceivably unite every peice of awareness present within existence, the mergence of all time and space.

[serloco]

That is the whole point of a black hole, pun intended. It compresses, or contracts time and space into one. Thus the sun and the entire universe exist omnipresently. It is the single unifyer of existence. The collapse of the universe onto itself which not only unites all time and places and all information but also leaves nothignness in its wake to refill the universe into any arrangement imaginable form this totality. It is freedom on a universal scale.

[serloco]

Once I was teaching about the black hole and the sun to a woman. This woman became an ally of mine of great power. She asked me saying that she heard it was possible to turn the sun into a blackhole and hinted if I could do it. I said of course and just acted and gazed up at the sun and shifted my perception of it directly to perceive the sun as a black hole collector spinning around the sun and drawing everything into it. The sun went dark and formed into the perfect picture of a black hole for me. I have since done this a few times.

[serloco]

It takes every piece of the puzzle to cast the entire picture.

[Finwe]

serloco wrote:It takes every piece of the puzzle to cast the entire picture.
. . .and only the last to finish it, only the first to begin casting it and none to not cast it at all, you can destroy it in process, after it's done or it vanishes with time. Still, without exeption there is no experience, neither existence of experience, nor it's possibility without you, awareness and yet all the awareness and emmanations exist without you. This subtle threshold and connection between everything, that does not connects anything, between you and that is the greatest mystery of all, endless and the only thing, pure magic, body needs to know to be, same as the fire burns and grow in infinity, infinitely.

[serloco]

Everything is Finwe. In every shape and form it is. Every success has been achieved and every failure met. Every outcome has been set to achieve. Every finish to be met. Any. And so we are given choice.

[Finwe]

Nothing is Serloco. My heart decides for me, of my life, am here just for the ride - adventure.

[Billy]

DanJones... I find the fluidity is a more useful property...energy body is my primary.         
billy > ...you imply energy body is a useful property.  How so?  



I defer to serloco. 


OMG   I have infinity in my bosum--it comes out as stupidity (smiling). 



ADD:   My "How so?" is just being facetious and critical of existence intrinsically.

[serloco]

Nothingness is only the field in which reality is set and is thus only half the equation.. There is everything and nothing. A pure, full, unfullfilled potential that exists in life. This balance of everything and nothing perpetuates this potential. Everything and nothing, life and death are the two forces of the Eagles emanations. You so often seem intent on perceiving an imbalance by only accepting nothing while denying the other life giving and sustaining side of creation.

[serloco]

Finwe- The body doesn't need to know to be. You do not even have to know in order to know. I mean you do not have to push a magic button, or do some energy feat to exist. Knowingness is only half the equation, there is also to not know in which case you do not need to know anything for existence to continue, it will just continue into the unknown beyond what you know.

[serloco]

all one needs to exist is awareness itself. the concept of knowing one exists stems from the awareness of non existence thus the question arises and is met by the awareness of our existence. However it is enough just to be aware of existence without knowing it exists.

[Finwe]

Silence is enough.

[Guest]