passing of an animal friend

[Bob May]

Hi Vrill,




"If we can somehow return to that consistently, this is where it gets difficult, then we can refine the energies of the impressions we receive.


One way to get there is to assume a zen like "don't know mind". Or as one of my teachers stated "I have no attention"


We have to empty our cup, completely, and then some more, to get a Real Impression.


Real Impressions are objective, vs. subjective. So much of the time we are caught up in the subjective.


Does anyone know anything about Real Objectivity? If I am in that place occasionally Seeing Happens. Maybe it's grace."




It is appropo that you are describing a state that I found myself in this morning while waiting for coffe to perk. I might describe it as not doing of mind, or
lack of prejudging. It is a state in which you do not bow to the dictates of "familiarity". Or prejudging might be a way to put it. According to
Castaneda we put our world together at a certain early age as infants. I have no reason to doubt this.


Since that time we base our world view upon that learned experience by the familiarity of that mode of our minds. In other words, we do to the input of this
world what we have always done for as long as we can remember.


The practice of stopping the internal dialog while observing the way the mind works can, over the course of time, break you of the habit. Or maybe a better way
to put it is that it enables you to bypass this function of mind as well as recognise it.


That is not doing. Not doing what we have always done to the input, (visual, auditory, etc.) that reaches us from our environment.




For me this morning, the world became sploches of color with no depth perception at all. (another learned function of mind) Those colors were the pick-up truck
in the driveway and the wall in the kitchen and the trees and grass, etc. They became energy of colors, meaning nothing. No form or distinction between the
various objects/colors. No meaning, just a feeling of energy.


I may not be putting it into words very well, but it relates to Don Juan saying that stopping the internal dialog was more than a mere curtailing of words. It
is more like not thinking at all. Especially in the way that breeds the familiarity described above.

[Vrill]

Not Doing is the cognitive dissonance that "unentangles" your awareness.




Carlos Castaneda



Bob:




Thanks for the wonderful description! That is exactly what I am speaking about. Another Reality interpenetrates our mundane existance, the one we call
"real".




What you are seeing when you shift your awareness like that is another Reality. I call it Greater Reality, and I believe it conforms to what I call the
Objective.




So, everything else pretty much in our known world, is temporary and subjective.




Via the medium of Not Doing we get glimpses of something totally Other, and gradually this re-habituates our awareness from the unreal to the real.




It requires strong Intent, but no effort except the effort of Not Doing.




Also it's very practical, as it can heal us of our afflictions. The Buddhist term is Kleshas.
These are negative emotions and bad habits are considered afflictions, as they torment us.


If we can bring these into our awareness and just let be, then awareness will dissolve and transform them. Kleshas are not just negative emotions but
aggregates of habit energy. At one level we might think there were a part of us, that we don't like. But they are just accumulations of unconscious habit
energy. They can give rise to addictive and negative behavior patterns so transforming them, is a big thing. Some are easy to transform and some form
accretions that are so ingrained as to be very difficult. Start with the easy ones

[mybelovedmateria]

MS, seeing the different energies is of great use, because our body is composed of them, and lifting its components to our consciousness makes them more
orderly, thus our energy grows, and then we can perceive more and more.




Vrill, I don't know which exercise I follow, I guess none at all, at the stage I am I just need to focus on what I want to perceive, and there it is. (I
have lots of memories having to do with these things, therefore it's quite easy.)


I'm not yet in the position to be a master, so I have no idea what advice to give to people who have no experience in seeing and want to learn it.

[Vrill]

I think the means to describe the process of how to get from point A to to point B do exist.


Still it's difficult depending on the level of understanding you are trying to describe and it takes a lot of skill to put this into terms that can be
mutually understandable. Different systems have inner language and terms. The terms may sound rather vague.


But when examined we find that they are not vague at all but point us to jumping off points into other worlds.




By other worlds, I mean, the Objective Reality of the Sacred.




My mission for the last few years has been, trying to learn how to teach what I know in an effective way.


I'm still not there yet, but I did get some significant "Help". "Help" is one of those vague terms.

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