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I am new to this Forum and thank you Nagual Lone Wolf for having this site where we can work on our Scorcery.
I have a question.....
Has anyone spent time trying to understand the diagram Don Juan showed Carlos in the dirt regarding the eight points on the luminous fibers of a human being? That being that Will is connected to the Tonal and the Nagual as well as Seeing/Feeling and Dreaming. And that the point Talking is attached to the points Seeing/Feeling and Dreaming and Reason.
I spent years rearranging the points to try to understand what Don Juan was doing in the "Tales of Power" book where Will is where we witness the Nagual and Reason is where we witness the Tonal.
While I was awake one morning meditating on the diagram the Dreaming Emissary told me that that diagram is actually the map of Creation and that all of Nagualism is contained in it.
Using Nagual Joseph's (Dreamways) description of how our energy bodies and chakras work together I Saw a direct correspondence to the eight points and where our daily world comes from and how we access the other world.
If anyone would like to work with me on this I am so available. I have certain observations that could be ground breaking for our path.
Sincerely
DanJones
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Yes I felt same before, back in time and when you so elaborately and enlighteningly describe,
Yet, when I found third attention and unleashed my double into dreaming I no longer had or have any needs to dispute over energetical facts.
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The reason I put my energy into this is because I am made of the Eagle's Emanations. Those Emanations have a language all of their own. I would like to know where the assemblage point comes from. How it is we are in reality a nameless cluster of feelings that are amber emanations that span the human band in our luminous body. Why is it injurious to See all the emanations except for the amber ones? We start with the Nagual filled with emanations and then work our way to our daily world the Tonal through the use of clustering and emphasizing of those same emanations. How does the Rolling Force work and exactly what is our Life Force?
I am on fire with this stuff. It only gets more interesting.....
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I feel you are absolutely right in your pursuit for your questions are truthfull as questions already unveil the mystery of unknown and allow to the spirit to manifest.
Don Juan and Genaro said in the books that we are made from eagle emanations, yet we are not directly his emmanations, I think we become different at birth, when egg forms from luminousity and becomes whole - total, we become kind of a "self" a beign that has a connection with spirit, yet is not directly part of whole as we are not the eagle emmanations but perceive them trough our assemblage point an understanding and meaning of energy we are connected on or in connection, and the way is about finding the link with spirit, dart past eagle, like overriding tonal and using nagual or vice versa, by movement of assemblage point.
Fire from within is a way of releasing the assemblage point from the luminous egg with the life force accumulated through life, that becomes by fire from within imploding and compress into the assemblage point and then the energy charged by that move, sends the charged AP so far that through infinity, that it consumes the physical "vessel" and overaly the whole physical dimension constructed by reflections inside the luminous egg, that the physicality is replaced by infinity, in that purely energetical matter consuming proccess.
The physical plane is the most densest hard energly plane, known - available so the plane above this physical level is even more unknown - on what laws it stands, yet energetical in means of the freedom that every energetical level creates, does and affect and what is beyonf the Infinity dimension is beyond comprehension in this dimension, clearly.
From my knowledge, assemblage point is simply a channel, that looks like ball and very similiar to the luminous egg it is conjoint through which tinge, position of energeticy uniformed perception of image is sustained by accepting and reflecting the eagle's emmanations, however what I found much more interesting is the drift of this point because then it becomes to result and appear in other forms and things, like chakras and the proccess of dual-universe snake energy awakening, fully reflective and intermingling in the soft and hard energies, balancing and amplifiying and so the AP automatically drifts, more into "newknown".
Rolling force is Life force, force, qi, síla, moc and Moaen-Sheanti, there are many names for the one same essence, through heart I see a as spell of dream, pure magic, mána, the second world of our activities.
Could you please describe more "Why is it injurious to See all the emanations except for the amber ones?" I cant quite grasp what do you mean, but would really like to know. I always had for sure that the amber emanations are yellowish - golden, mainly orange of the other 8 spectrums - worlds of energy, and the emmanations that are really "volatile" are white or black, depending on situation.
When I traveled through tenth gate of dreaming it was a speeding up through black tunnel to the end - white light on the end of it, and jumping tru it, also when I cross this gate other times the tw colors are interchanged completely.
I hope we can work on this more, it also interests me very much, stirs my heart, alongside path.
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If you know what you, world is made of, dream is the language, reason the signs and will the sounding.
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hi Dan.. ive just posted a videos i did on shifting perception. It might trigger off some more for you, so ill put a link here
http://sorcery.yuku.com/topic/5651/Shif ... z_93_ldWSo
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Hi shamanka this is from Dreamways forum under Inorganic Yoga form the Energy Bodies, Chakras, Auras & The Flyers section. I hope I don't catch hell for this from anyone. This seems to be close to what you are discussing in your video.
Thanks
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Hi shamanka, I just thought it might be something useful and since a picture is worth a thousand words....
It is interesting how the identity balls all form a diagonal line like you talked about in your video. Dreamways integration of chakras and energy bodies is something I haven't seen anywhere else. The guy is a genius....
(edited 29/4/2013..by shamanka ...link added to original graphic that was posted before as Dan kindly found me the link)
http://nagual.yuku.com/sreply/1268/Inorganic-Yoga
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Hey Draco, thanks for info....., what do I need to do to upgrade?
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