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Don Juan taught
that one of the enemies on the Path of Knowledge is:
((( CLARITY )))
So, if everyone wants to know what happens when a man is defeated by clarity
all you have to do is see what happened to
JAMES ARTHUR RAY
He is a warrior who was defeated by his own clarity
His clarity made him too sure of himself
Yes, on the Path of Knowledge
JAMES ARTHUR RAY
was defeated by clarity!
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i doubt that he was clear about knowing his self.
i think the good old fashioned greed got to him.
"gotta have that cash". mo money = more attachment.
craving anything drives men and women mad. and
craving makes you more stupid than a burro.
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Three fools awed by the 'clarity' of James Arthur Ray
chose to ignore their bodies telling them they were dying and stayed in that sweat lodge longer than they should have
It was THEIR DECISION TO DO SO
NOT JAMES ARTHUR RAY'S
They chose not to listen to their bodies
Apparently
to prove to Mr Ray how tough they were
and they paid the ultimate price
it was THEIR CHOICE as warriors
not Mr Ray's
However,
in a society of lying fools who don't want to take responsibility for their actions
Mr Ray was made to take the blame for
THEIR DUMB MISTAKE!!
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Some at the event left the sweat lodge and didn't come back. That was THEIR CHOICE, not Mr Ray's
Some exited the sweat lodge after each and every round. That was THEIR CHOICE and not Mr Ray's
Some stayed in the sweat lodge between rounds. That was THEIR CHOICE and not Mr Ray's
NO ONE knew those three were dying NO ONE!!!
If Mr Ray goes to jail so should ALL THE PEOPLE around those three who had no clue whatsoever that they were dying!!
It
seems only fair enough. Why should they be excused because they had no
clue those three were dying? Mr Ray wasn't excused and THOSE PEOPLE WERE
RIGHT NEXT TO THOSE THREE!!
Those three were experienced
adventurers. Liz had done this event FIVE-TIMES before, or so I read.
These were not mentally retarded children, as you people tend to want to
believe. They were RESPONSIBLE ADULTS! They made a bad choice that day
but IT WAS THEIR CHOICE, NOT MR RAY'S!
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TO THE FAMILIES OF: LIZ NEUMAN, KIRBY BROWN & JAMES SHORE:
I
was under the impression that these three were honorable warriors.
Well, no matter how glowing a testimony YOU have given about those three
you obviously don't have a clue what it means to be a truly HONORABLE
WARRIOR so I obviously have to tell you:
To be a truly HONORABLE
WARRIOR means that when you make a promise YOU KEEP YOUR PROMISE!!!! If
you PROMISE to take full responsibility for your actions at ANY EVENT
that is what you do whether you sign an agreement to do so or not!
Yes,
that's what it means to be a truly honorable warrior. YOU have
dishonored their memory. YOU have shown the WHOLE WORLD that those three
were actually dishonorable liars, apparently, just like YOU.
Did
God tell you that He wanted you to break the sacred promise those three
made before they died? ALL FINAL PROMISES before death are indeed
sacred! Did God tell you they wanted you to break their promise? DID
HE??
You should be ashamed of yourselves. What are you going to
say when you find out that James Arthur Ray was set up? What are you
going to say on that day, eh? Will 'I'm sorry, I didn't know' be more
than enough? WILL IT??
Bet you are rejoicing just like Hilary
Clinton did when she learned that Gaddafi was dead, aren't you? And then
her mother died. What a coincidence, eh? Don't worry it was just a
coincidence.
The wise DO NOT rejoice over the misfortune of others!
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Those of you who are still convinced
that all Mr Ray cared about is money
watch this FREE VIDEO
then list the three main things, from this video, that have you
completely convinced Mr Ray is
a charlatan and a fraud who only cares about money
If you cannot do this
SHUT THE **** ABOUT THE MATTER
because you are an **** who doesn't know what he is talking about
Thank you
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energylover wrote:i doubt that he was clear about knowing his self.
i think the good old fashioned greed got to him.
"gotta have that cash". mo money = more attachment.
craving anything drives men and women mad. and
craving makes you more stupid than a burro.
I couldn't tell you this at SR without getting banned, but since I am banned I will tell you here:
YOU'RE A FUCKING DICKHEADED ****, ENERGYLOVER!!
You jump to ignorant conclusions about people without doing any worthwhile research. You believe slanderous hearsay as though it is 'Gospel Truth'
Anyone you feel is better than you in any way is fair game for your slander
((( YOU SUCK ****!! )))
You're a piece of walking human ****
You're a human cockroach who should be sprayed and eliminated
Well, the hungry aliens soon to come should take care of that because
MOTHER EARTH DOES NOT NEED SLANDEROUS WALKING HUMAN **** LIKE YOU!!!
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mr. radioactive full of rage and anger.
how's that workin for you in your life?
does that get you what you want ?
no, i didn't think so. it tends to push
people away from ya huh? why is it?
because that is what you have to give
away. squeeze a turd and guess what
comes out? more sshitt. big surprise?
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Well, the anger makes me more determined that ever to strengthen my connecting link to my source
The Universe is fighting for me and apparently KILLED TOM!!
I don't approve of what the Universe did, but it's out of my hands
So, I am more determined to strengthen my connecting link to my source because STRENGTH is the only want to go
in a society of lying, slanderous human scum like you who slander people without truly knowing what they actually believe
Heck, if I have no choice and by strengthening my connecting link to my source means that anyone who hassles me mysteriously dies at the hands of The Spirit...well....
It's none of my business
The Spirit apparently killed Tom. You want to keep pushing your luck, dickhead. Go right ahead!
You are an **** who believes slanderous hearsay at face value
You are a piece of walking human ****
Have a nice day!
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energylover wrote:mr. radioactive full of rage and anger.
how's that workin for you in your life?
does that get you what you want ?
no, i didn't think so. it tends to push
people away from ya huh? why is it?
because that is what you have to give
away. squeeze a turd and guess what
comes out? more sshitt. big surprise?
What? I'm supposed to want to attract human **** like you to me?
Either share the list from Mr Ray's video or...
GO *** OFF, ****!
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meaningless new age hog wash.
that guy is a taker, he cannot give
you anything you don't already have.
forget it. just like juan matus said
"we are not spiritual beings' and that
guy ain't no spiritual being either.
he is a new age con man attracting
your wallet to his collection plate.
don't be stupid you moron. suckers
lose when they believe douchebags
like him. he sucks big donkey dong in my book.
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Don Genardo Sacateca wrote:
Those of you who are still convinced
that all Mr Ray cared about is money
watch this FREE VIDEO
then list the three main things, from this video, that have you
completely convinced Mr Ray is
a charlatan and a fraud who only cares about money
If you cannot do this
SHUT THE **** ABOUT THE MATTER
because you are an **** who doesn't know what he is talking about
Thank you
This is all I have to say to you, energylover
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"Was it not part of the trial testimony
that someone testified that they had called out, "She's not breathing"
in reference to Kirby Brown?"
MY COMMENT:
If this is true
that person should have been SCREAMING that she was not breathing. THAT
PERSON should have dragged Kirby out of there. If he did not and no one
else was willing to help him ALL THOSE PEOPLE should be going to jail.
Hey, what would YOU do if you were there and you found that Kirby Brown
was not breathing? Would you be quiet about it OR WOULD YOU START
SCREAMING?? Get real, people. I remember a woman testifying that she
stood up to the side of the inside of the sweat lodge and kept saying
OUT LOUD 'There's something wrong with Kirby' over and over until she
heard some guy say very loud: 'She's fine'. At that point the woman
stopped making any comments about Kirby Brown. WHO SAID KIRBY WAS FINE?
Apparently is was James Shore. Why shouldn't everyone have believed him
when he said that Kirby was fine? Someone was concerned about Liz Neuman
and went up to her and asked her if she was okay and Liz said she was
fine and wanted to stay in the sweat lodge. Liz had done event
FIVE-TIMES before 2009. Why should Liz not be believed? Why?
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JAMES ARTHUR RAY SLAPPED DOWN BY CLARITY
"He
must defy his fear, and in spite of it he must take the next step in
learning, and the next, and the next. He must be fully afraid, and yet
he must not stop. That is the rule! And a moment will come when his
first enemy retreats. The man begins to feel sure of himself. His intent
becomes stronger. Learning is no longer a terrifying task.
When
this joyful moment comes, the man can say without hesitation that he
has defeated his first natural enemy. It happens little by little, and
yet the fear is vanquished suddenly and fast. Once a man has vanquished
fear, he is free from it for the rest of his life because, instead of
fear, he has acquired clarity--a clarity of mind which erases fear. By
then a man knows his desires; he knows how to satisfy those desires. He
can anticipate the new steps of learning and a sharp clarity surrounds
everything. The man feels that nothing is concealed.
And
thus he has encountered his second enemy: Clarity! That clarity of mind,
which is so hard to obtain, dispels fear, but also blinds. It forces
the man never to doubt himself. It gives him the assurance he can do
anything he pleases, for he sees clearly into everything. And he is
courageous because he is clear, and he stops at nothing because he is
clear. But all that is a mistake; it is like something incomplete. If
the man yields to this make-believe power, he has succumbed to his
second enemy and will be patient when he should rush. And he will fumble
with learning until he winds up incapable of learning anything more.
His second enemy has just stopped him cold from trying to become a man
of knowledge. Instead, the man may turn into a buoyant warrior, or a
clown. Yet the clarity for which he has paid so dearly will never change
to darkness and fear again. He will be clear as long as he lives, but
he will no longer learn, or yearn for, anything.
He must do
what he did with fear: he must defy his clarity and use it only to see,
and wait patiently and measure carefully before taking new steps; he
must think, above all, that his clarity is almost a mistake. And a
moment will come when he will understand that his clarity was only a
point before his eyes. And thus he will have overcome his second enemy,
and will arrive at a position where nothing can harm him anymore. This
will not be a mistake. It will not be only a point before his eyes. It
will be true power.
He will know at this point that the
power he has been pursuing for so long is finally his. He can do with it
whatever he pleases. His ally is at his command. His wish is the rule.
He sees all that is around him. But he has also come across his third
enemy: Power!
Power is the strongest of all enemies. And
naturally the easiest thing to do is to give in; after all, the man is
truly invincible. He commands; he begins by taking calculated risks, and
ends in making rules, because he is a master.
A man at this
stage hardly notices his third enemy closing in on him. And suddenly,
without knowing, he will certainly have lost the battle. His enemy will
have turned him into a cruel, capricious man, but he will never lose his
clarity or his power.
A man who is defeated by power dies
without really knowing how to handle it. Power is only a burden upon his
fate. Such a man has no command over himself, and cannot tell when or
how to use his power.
Once one of these enemies overpowers a
man there is nothing he can do. It is not possible, for instance, that a
man who is defeated by power may see his error and mend his ways. Once a
man gives in he is through. If, however, he is temporarily blinded by
power, and then refuses it, his battle is still on. That means he is
still trying to become a man of knowledge. A man is defeated only when
he no longer tries, and abandons himself.
He has to come to
realize that the power he has seemingly conquered is in reality never
his. He must keep himself in line at all times, handling carefully and
faithfully all that he has learned. If he can see that clarity and
power, without his control over himself, are worse than mistakes, he
will reach a point where everything is held in check. He will know then
when and how to use his power. And thus he will have defeated his third
enemy."
-The Teachings of Don Juan
MY COMMENT
If
Mr Ray refuses to give up he will defy his clarity and encounter power
where he will need it most: IN PRISON. I can only hope he is not
defeated by power and can emerge triumphant for it is obvious that Mr
Ray deserves to have that conviction overturned for the same reason
Amanda Knox's conviction was overturned: A SLOPPY INVESTIGATION! I
strongly believe that Native American Fawn Foster put an
organophosphates compound into the water that was poured onto the sweat
lodge hot rocks during the final rounds of the sweat lodge ceremony.
There is no way to prove it because I believe the detectives were paid
off not to test the samples until after three-days when the
organophosphate compound would disappear.
I strongly believe
James Arthur Ray was set up. 'Clarity' made James Arthur Ray some
powerful enemies. I can only hope that Mr Ray is not defeated by his
clarity because he's going to need lots of POWER where he is headed. The
only hope I can see if for Mr Ray to use 'power' to become the greatest
and most wonderfully helpful prisoner anyone has ever seen or known.
Like the Biblical Joseph when he was falsely accused and thrown in
prison. The prison guards trusted him so much that, I believe, they even
gave him the keys to the cells and Joseph would do much of their work
for them without ever trying to escape. Joseph was a prisoner who really
knew how to handle power and he was eventually released to become
greater than ever before!
The families of those three have
dishonored the memories Liz Neuman, Kirby Brown & James Shore by
causing them to break the sacred vows they made before they died. Those
three 'supposed' warriors vowed to take full responsibility for their
actions at that event. They died with honor...until now. Their honor was
taken away by their families blinded by a desire for revenge. For
shame, people! You know not what you have done! May God forgive you
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I found this on the Internet. One of the family members of the three who died said to James Arthur Ray:
"There
was nothing you could teach Liz, James or Kirby about honor, integrity
and impeccability," said Neuman's cousin, Lily Clark, drawing from
Ray's principle teachings. "But they could have taught you a lot. They
were born spiritual warriors, and you are not worthy to spit shine
their combat boots."
COMMENT:
Really
now. Could they teach Mr Ray how to take responsibility for his
actions at a sweat lodge event? Do tell? Could they teach Mr Ray how to
leave a sweat lodge if they felt they were dying? Do tell that as
well? Could they teach Mr Ray how to be honorable and keep their
promises even if the legal system offers you a way to break your
promises? I, for one, would like to know!
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I found this on the Internet one of the family members of the three who died said:
"There
was nothing you could teach Liz, James or Kirby about honor, integrity
and impeccability," said Neuman's cousin, Lily Clark, drawing from Ray's
principle teachings. "But they could have taught you a lot. They were
born spiritual warriors, and you are not worthy to spit shine their
combat boots."
COMMENT:
Really now. Could they teach Mr
Ray how to take responsibility for his actions at a sweat lodge event?
Do tell? Could they teach Mr Ray how to leave a sweat lodge if they felt
they were dying? Do tell that as well? Could they teach Mr Ray how to
be honorable and keep their promises even if the legal system offers you
a way to break your promises? I, for one, would like to know!
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Don Genardo Sacateca wrote:
Those of you who are still convinced
that all Mr Ray cared about is money
watch this FREE VIDEO
then list the three main things, from this video, that have you
completely convinced Mr Ray is
a charlatan and a fraud who only cares about money
If you cannot do this
SHUT THE **** ABOUT THE MATTER
because you are an **** who doesn't know what he is talking about
Thank you
This is all I have to say to you except that
no one forced those people to do ANYTHING!
It was THEIR CHOICE to pay for the event
and THEIR CHOICE to participate in the activities, not Mr Ray's, period!
A friend told me of a Martin Lawrence stand-up comedy routine in which he said:
"Critics can't do ****. That's why they have to talk about YOUR ****!"
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Don Genardo Sacateca wrote:
Three fools awed by the 'clarity' of James Arthur Ray
chose to ignore their bodies telling them they were dying and stayed in that sweat lodge longer than they should have
It was THEIR DECISION TO DO SO
NOT JAMES ARTHUR RAY'S
They chose not to listen to their bodies
Apparently
to prove to Mr Ray how tough they were
and they paid the ultimate price
it was THEIR CHOICE as warriors
not Mr Ray's
However,
in a society of lying fools who don't want to take responsibility for their actions
Mr Ray was made to take the blame for
THEIR DUMB MISTAKE!!
Glad to see that I wasn't the only one to get that point. I don't understand how someone would override their own body's signals in this...it is like ignoring that you are having a heart attack just so you can make it into work on time. When I heard about it I thought it was a good lesson for everyone to see why not to give up themselves for something else.
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Don Genardo Sacateca wrote:energylover wrote:i doubt that he was clear about knowing his self.
i think the good old fashioned greed got to him.
"gotta have that cash". mo money = more attachment.
craving anything drives men and women mad. and
craving makes you more stupid than a burro.
I couldn't tell you this at SR without getting banned, but since I am banned I will tell you here:
YOU'RE A FUCKING DICKHEADED ****, ENERGYLOVER!!
You jump to ignorant conclusions about people without doing any worthwhile research. You believe slanderous hearsay as though it is 'Gospel Truth'
Anyone you feel is better than you in any way is fair game for your slander
((( YOU SUCK ****!! )))
You're a piece of walking human ****
You're a human cockroach who should be sprayed and eliminated
Well, the hungry aliens soon to come should take care of that because
MOTHER EARTH DOES NOT NEED SLANDEROUS WALKING HUMAN **** LIKE YOU!!!
So much for the "I'm done posting there because of all the edits"...seems EL is as much a two-faced liar as CC or any of the other culties out there. >SAD
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Okay, I'm ready to share the revelation:
There
is NO WAY I can possibly believe The Spirit of Intent would allow
something like what happened to James Arthur Ray to happen to me without
AT LEAST (((THREE))) extremely major warning signs UNLESS I was
supposed to put my philosophy to the ultimate test by helping people in
prison to become extremely successful when they get out of prison. It
could very well be this whole situation was orchestrated by Intent so
that Mr Ray could go to prison and help prison inmates turn their lives
around and become EXTREMELY SUCCESSFUL IN LIFE. It could be James Arthur
Ray KNEW THIS and that is why he very courageously only had two
witnesses called when it came his turn to defend himself against the
prosecution. Man, if this is true it would have taken a lot of guts to
surrender to the will of the Spirit and not do much to defend himself.
If The Spirit of Intent wants you to go to jail no kind of logic or reason will keep you out of prison
If
the Spirit of Intent wants you to die on a certain day at a certain
hour you are already dead, you just don't know it. Nothing will be able
to stop it!
As for myself, I MUST BELIEVE that something like
what happened to Mr Ray would NEVER happen to me without at least
(((THREE))) major warnings that I would ignore and that last warning
would have to be VERY DRAMATIC!!!! If I chose to ignore all three
warning signs it is the ONLY WAY I can possibly imagine what happened to
Mr Ray happening to me. Like it or not, Mr Ray MUST take responsibility
for not making ABSOLUTELY CERTAIN that emergency people were on hand
for the two-hours of the sweat lodge event. He wanted the 2009 sweat
lodge hotter than ever before and obviously didn't think emergency
personnel should be there just in case. BAD DECISION and one that
eventually sent him to jail. If he is a TRUE WARRIOR he MUST take
responsibility for that bad decision, period. He has no one else to
blame but himself for deciding that emergency personnel were not
required for those two-hours. It was Mr Ray's call and he made a bad
one. He was obviously blinded by his sense of 'clarity' and thought he
could handle anything that might happen. Tough luck, dude! Bad decision
and now you'll have to pay for it!
It could very well be that
prison will provide the ultimate test of all that Mr Ray believes! Only a
REAL WARRIOR will be able to survive it and come out stronger and
better than ever before! I HAVE TO BELIEVE that if my enemies would
succeed in doing something like this to me it would be for a very good
reason and I would come out of the situation TRIUMPHANT and a better and
more successful person than ever before.
Whether anyone else agrees with the truth or not, the truth is
REAL SPIRITUAL WARRIORS TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THEIR ACTIONS AND THEIR LIVES
REAL SPIRITUAL WARRIORS (((DO NOT))) BLAME OTHERS FOR (((THEIR))) BAD DECISIONS
REAL
SPIRITUAL WARRIORS WOULD TAKE FULL RESPONSIBILITY FOR STAYING IN A
SWEAT LODGE LONGER THAN THEY KNOW IN THEIR HEARTS THEY SHOULD HAVE
REAL SPIRITUAL WARRIORS WOULD (((NOT))) BLAME JAMES ARTHUR RAY FOR THEIR BAD DECISIONS
REAL SPIRITUAL WARRIORS KEEP THE PROMISES THEY MAKE AND DON'T USE LEGAL TRICKERY TO GET AROUND THEM
This is the truth whether you agree or not
Of
course, the phony spiritual warriors will not agree with what I have
just written, but that is to be expected. Soft, armchair, porky-butt
warriors who are not prepared for actual war will most certainly not
agree with this post and most New Age supposed warriors I have
encountered are of the soft, armchair, porky-butt variety.
I AM A BODYBUILDING MARTIAL ARTS VERY (((REAL))) WARRIOR WHO IS READY TO DIE (((RIGHT NOW)))
I TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR MY LIFE, MY THOUGHTS AND MY ACTIONS
I DO NOT BLAME MY BAD DECISIONS ON OTHERS!
IF I AGREE TO DO SOMETHING THAT IS WHAT I DO!
IF I IGNORE MY BODY TELLING ME I AM DYING I HAVE NO ONE TO BLAME BUT MYSELF IF I STAY IN A SWEAT LODGE LONGER THAN I SHOULD
IF I CHOSE NOT TO GET OUT BETWEEN ROUNDS AT THAT JRI EVENT THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN (((MY DECISION))) AND NOT JAMES ARTHUR RAY'S
THAT'S THE TRUTH AND THE SOFT, PHONY, ARMCHAIR SUPPOSED WARRIORS WILL MOST CERTAINLY NOT AGREE
But that is to be expected
You should NEVER expect real courage from a phony warrior. Their problems are always someone else's fault
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Don Genardo Sacateca wrote:REAL
SPIRITUAL WARRIORS WOULD TAKE FULL RESPONSIBILITY FOR STAYING IN A
SWEAT LODGE LONGER THAN THEY KNOW IN THEIR HEARTS THEY SHOULD HAVE
REAL SPIRITUAL WARRIORS WOULD (((NOT))) BLAME JAMES ARTHUR RAY FOR THEIR BAD DECISIONS
This is the truth whether you agree or not
I agree with everything you said in your post, however, wanted to add a bit to what you said here. Because, although I agree with what you are saying, there is more here to say...the people taking his class in the sweat lodge were NOT real warriors...they were sheep (pointing to the sheep shepard analogy). Shepards lead themselves...the answers are within anyways. Shepards don't take classes. It is sheep who sign up for classes like this and sheep do what they are told. Also, James Ray was NOT a high level shepard. High level shepards would understand that the people there were sheep and would have taken care of them...he clearly did not see that structure.
However, while one can fantasize about how an ideal world should be run (where only high level shepards are allowed to teach classes), it does no use because the world is the way the world is.
I do think that it is important to look at how it happened...and to look at what was occuring for people. I do agree that real warriors wouldn't have been there and that if they were there would have walked out when it became too much...and also wouldn't blame anyone. However, I don't believe that the people who died were warriors.
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