((( EPOCH, DON JUAN & THE INSPIRING )))

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INTRODUCTION:
Earlier today I put in a phenomenal workout. I've come to the conclusion that the only way to properly deal with a lying, insanely self-destructive race that has little to no respect for itself or its planet is from a position of STRENGTH. I no longer need to get my muscles to grow bigger, but I feel I do need to increase the phenomenal power of my martial arts ability. In my mind I 'see' myself moving faster and more powerfully than ever before. In my mind I 'see' myself moving so fast and powerfully that people say I am faster than Bruce Lee. The question is: Am I good enough to realistically become that powerful with Intent? Can I clearly 'see' myself becoming that powerful and fast? In all honesty the answer is: YES INDEED! I CAN CLEARLY 'SEE' MYSELF BECOMING THAT FAST AND POWERFUL and I really, REALLY WANT IT!!!
Oh yes indeed and whether or not YOU believe me is none of my business
After my phenomenal workout I had a marvelous pomegranate smoothie that REALLY hit the proverbial 'spot'. I've been making these fruit smoothies and I just bought pre-packaged frozen organic fruit berry combinations for fruit smoothies whenever I may want them. I no longer have to be tied to eating fruit before it spoils. I am free now thanks to the fact that I realized the organic smoothie place keeps their smoothie fruit frozen.
Tomorrow is a carrot juice day!
Lots of carrot juice, celery juice, apple and baby spinach final mixed in my new single-serving blender. Wow! I'm really looking forward to tomorrow!

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EPOCH:

I understand now
all that matters is that
the Castaneda conundrum is resolved
FOR ME!!

As for the staunch, narrow-minded, bottom feeding skeptics it's a rather safe bet that nothing will ever be resolved FOR THEM. They go along the bottom feeding on all the **** they can find. All they care about is the ****, but what can you expect from proverbial bottom feeders? It's their nature to look for **** and eat it wholeheartedly.
The Castaneda book Journey To Ixtlan is, quite simply, a literary masterpiece whether it is pure fiction or part fiction, period. Most of the people who reviewed the book at Amazon.com consider it to be a literary masterpiece. The wise will realize that a literary masterpiece is a literary masterpiece whether or not it is fact or fiction or both. The unwise are convinced that Journey To Ixtlan must be ABSOLUTELY AND COMPLETELY FACTUAL to be a literary masterpiece. I say that is ridiculous and I also say anyone who is truly wise will agree with me.
A beautiful painting is a beautiful painting whether or not the subject matter is based on fact or fiction, period!
The Mona Lisa is said to be the most famous painting ever created. Leonardo DaVinci supposedly used the wife of some nobleman as the model. What if you eventually find that the woman of the Mona Lisa painting was a fictional character Leonardo made up from his imagination. Will the painting suddenly become less beautiful? NO, RIGHT?
For Journey To Ixtlan Carlos Castaneda was awarded a Ph. D from UCLA. If Castaneda faked that book he was indeed a SUPER GENIUS!! If Journey To Ixtlan was a factual account that is nowhere near as interesting to the wise. It is much more interesting if he made the whole thing up and fooled UCLA into giving him a Ph. D for his work. Yes, that's a heck of a lot more interesting indeed!

UNDENIABLE FACTS:
Castaneda created a string of New York Times bestselling books
((( THAT IS AMAZING IN AND OF ITSELF!! )))
Castaneda made the cover of Time magazine as a result
((( THAT IS ALSO AMAZING IN AND OF ITSELF!! )))
Castaneda was awarded a Ph. D for his dissertation that became his third book: Journey To Ixtlan
((( THAT IS SUPER-AMAZING ON TOP OF EVERYTHING ELSE!! )))
Like it or not, if Carlos Castaneda faked the whole thing and created don Juan from his imagination
((( THAT'S SO AMAZING IT IS PRACTICALLY UNBELIEVABLE )))
Why?
Because for his first three books Castaneda has to HONESTLY portray himself as the person he actually was and he was a person who could NEVER come up with the don Juan philosophy on his own, period! If Carlos was talking don Juan philosophy before he purportedly met the shaman people would have been screaming FRAUD from his very first book, that's why.
The professors Castaneda credited in his first book must have seen his field notes. If they asked to see Castaneda's field notes and Castaneda refuse to produce them the professors of UCLA would have 'smelled a rat' from the very beginning. Now, that is a logical reasonable assumption, period!
FACT:
A beautiful literary masterpiece is a beautiful literary masterpiece, period, and Journey To Ixtlan is a beautiful literary masterpiece, period. Whether or not anyone else agrees with me is COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT!
(((YOU))) DO NOT HAVE TO AGREE WITH THE TRUTH FOR IT TO BE TRUE!!!

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LADY SENOR WENCESLAO WROTE:

"Yaqui expert Dr. Ralph Beals asked to see Castaneda's field notes but
Carlos continually dodged the request. Dr. Jacques Maquet, then head of
UCLA's Department of Anthropology, also objected to the fact that no
hard evidence had ever been presented to back up Castaneda's accounts.
"What is essential is not simply to have the experience," says Maquet
today, "but, if it is anthropology, to make it possible for other
anthropologists to repeat the experience. Castaneda never did that."


MY RESPONSE:

You people never learn. Have YOU personally verified this as true? NO,
YOU HAVE NOT!. You're just a 'bottom feeding' skeptic and you know it!


Do tell everyone here how what you have written makes the book Journey
To Ixtlan less of a literary masterpiece? Can't do it, can you? Of
course not! The Mona Lisa is equally beautiful whether Leonardo used an
actual model or created a model from his imagination and that's just the
way it is whether you like it or not!


The Teachings of don Juan: A Yaqui Way of Knowledge - 1968 by Carlos Castaneda Intro
Acknowledgements
"I
wish to express profound gratitude to Professor Clement Meighan, who
started and set the course of my anthropological fieldwork; to Professor
Harold Garfinkel, who gave me the model and the spirit of exhaustive
inquiry; to Professor Robert Edgerton, who criticized my work from its
beginning; to Professors William Bright and Pedro Carrasco for their
criticisms and encouragement; and to Professor Lawrence Watson for his
invaluable help in the clarification of my analysis. Finally, I am
grateful to Mrs Grace Stimson and Mr F. A. Guilford for their assistance
in preparing the manuscript."
- Carlos Castaneda

MY COMMENT:

Fact of
the matter is these UCLA professors MUST have asked to see Castaneda's
field notes at one time or another. If Castaneda started making excuses
and could not produce any field notes, of which he supposedly had
VOLUMES, the jig would have been up. It would have been all over BEFORE
the book was ever published and Castaneda would have been kicked out of
UCLA disgraced as a fraud before any of us heard of his "don Juan". Now,
that is down to Earth logical and reasonable. How could anyone believe
Castaneda claiming to have volumes of field notes and never have been
able to produce any to the satisfaction of the UCLA administrative
faculty? That is a completely ridiculous concept. It's just completely
ridiculous and you all know it!
However, I could be wrong.
How about YOU.
Could
YOU be wrong, Jeremy Donovan? Or are you determined to remain a Richard
DeMille TB for the rest of your miserable life? I wonder when Jeremy
and Guy are going to finally get back from Jeremy's second trip to
Greece? Once I was was granted 3 posts a day he flew like a pigeon from a
bulldozer. Jeremy doesn't have the cohones to confront me on a level
playing field. The coward runs and hides and is hoping it will all blow
over. In the final analysis skeptics obviously tend to be very cowardly
when their views are properly cancelled out. They can't admit they could
be wrong. YOU ARE MY SPIRITUAL INFERIOR, JEREMY DONOVAN!!!
Most
of the reviews at Amazon.com for Journey To Ixtlan are 5 star. People
simply feel that Journey To Ixtlan is a literary masterpiece and that's
all there is to it. Nothing you bottom-feeding skeptics can say will
change that fact.

Here are excerpts from some of those reviews:

"This is a life-changing book and a spiritual classic (I rarely
give ANYTHING 5 stars) but someone ought to mention that there is a
certain amount of controversy about the accuracy of Castaneda's Don Juan
series. Researcher Richard de Mille is probably the most even-handed of
the critics and The_Don_Juan_Papers is worth a read, though some of the
criticisms are merely carping small-mindedness.

Regardless of
your attitude toward Castaneda's (or Don Juan's!)literal accuracy the
series, of which Journey_to_Ixtlan is the best, presents a coherent and
engaging spiritual existentialism. A Must Read!!! "

"It took a lot for me to get through Castaneda's first book, The
Teachings of Don Juan. I was totally unimpressed with it. The whole
book was essentially about how a Yaqui Indian "sorcerer" put naive
Carlos, then a graduate student in anthropology from UCLA doing research
on a hallucinogenic plant, through a bunch of weird drug trips that
shook his view of reality. And to me, that doesn't jive at all.But
in Journey to Ixtlan, Castaneda goes back and says, "wait, start over,
reset. I was wrong about all of that drug stuff, it's really not
necessary, don Juan just put me through that because I was too stubborn
and 'rational' to see that there may be other views of reality than the
ones I subscribe to." In this book he discovers that he doesn't need
drugs to experience other worlds. Rather, there are a series of
practices for right living that enable the possibility of perceiving in
nonordinary ways.
So Journey to Ixtlan is where the real lessons
about living life in the warrior's way begin. I recommend this book
highly as a starting point for Castaneda's work; forget the first two
books."



"Forget the debate as to whether Castaneda's writings were a hoax or that
his books became important reading for the drug culture. Although I
suggest you read his first two books before reading this one but if you
read only one book by Carlos Castaneda this is the book to read. Be his
books accurate reporting by a cultural anthropologist (which is becoming
increasingly more and more  doubtful), mysticism or hokum, this
particular book is quite moving and lyrical. And whether his stories are
real or imagined and whether the teaching he transmutes came from Don
Juan or from his own mind by his knowledge as a trained anthropologist
the underlying mystical principles of these stories cannot be dismissed
out of hand.

  Shaman, poet and perhaps an academic scoundrel it is Castaneda's
poetry and story telling that comes shining through in this book.

  If Castaneda's books were a hoax and were represented as cultural
anthropology as a better hook to sell books it is a shame because he did
a disservice to science and to his legacy. Still I myself, as a former
researcher in Harvard University's anthropology department and a student
of human ethology, can forgive this sin on one level and enjoy this
book as a powerful work of liturature.

For if there has been a wrong that has been committed against
anthropology it is one that was done by the way the books were marketed
and perhaps by the author's personality itself. The works themselves
should not suffer and be shunned for this.

His legacy would have been better served if he wrote these same works as a writer of fiction.

I believe the author would have been wiser to present his works the
way Gurdjieff presented "Beelzebub's Tales to his Grandson" rather than
obstinately insisting there really was such a person as Don Juan (even
if in the off chance that his teacher did exist).

Despite the controversy his writing stands on its own and Journey
to Ixtlan is a powerful, touching, enchanting and beautiful book."


"I started reading ( & still re-read) Don Juan's

books by "Carlitos" long long ago , (mid 70's) &


still thank God that somehow I found his books


. The most important thing this book taught me


is to ACCEPT RESPONSIBILITY FOR MY ACT


IONS .


I was young & lost & scared & a mess & that


concept had never crossed my mind. I was us


-ed to blaming others & their actions towards me


etc....for the outcomes of my life.


Well let me tell youuuuuuu something. What an


EYE OPENER !!!!! ha ha ha . I also leared not


to judge people & still try not to..... I remember


Don Juan used to say something lilke " do not


send your bad thoughts to a person that may have


done something wrong. It doesn't do them any good or yourself."


I adore Don Juan &' Carlitos' as he used to call him. Don Juan


had the BEST sense of humor I've ever seen.


Castanedas' book enchanted me, terrified me


( to the point that I slept with the lights on a couple


of nights ) enlightened me, inspired me & finally


changed me inside for the better.


I got a lot out of this one book so I read..."

"Castaneda did the world a favor when he began chronicling his
apprenticeship with Don Juan Matus. Whether or not Don Juan was one or
three real people is irrelevant since what Castaneda learns is highly
relevant to all of us. Learning to "stalk" the self, learning to
achieve equilibrium in a world full of petty tyrants (including the
petty tyrant of the "self") are among the most trenchant lessons
Castaneda provides us. This book is the place to start with Castaneda
and you'll even find within it Don Juan doing magical passes 25 years
before Castaneda finally admitted there were such things. The books by
Castaneda are the most important books in my life and I highly recommend
them to anyone who's after an alternative way of looking at life and
the human condition."

MY COMMENT:
Out of 64 review 46 are FIVE-STAR reviews. Here is the most critical one:

"The question with regard to Carlos Casteneda is this: If we accept the
premise that this book is largely fiction, does that in turn trivialize
the message he is trying to impart? Just what is his message? If the
message is that the world is full of witches, sorcerers, irridescent
coyotes, allies, and phantoms, then the answer must be an unqualfied
"yes". These entities are no more real, and have no more importance
than angels and miracles, zombies, ghosts, or anything else whose
existence cannot be objectively observed. However, despite the cult
that has grown up around these writings, I don't think this is what
Casteneda had in mind. Don Juan warned against being trapped in the
world of sorcery, just as he did against getting trapped in the world
of everyday concerns. It was when Carlos, the character, realized that
he and the dung beetle were on even terms, even though their sensory
worlds were profoundly different, that he was finally able to "stop the
world". The warrior, says don Juan, takes responsibility for his
life, and interacts with every event as if it is his last. Moreover,
once one makes the transition to the path of knowledge, one can never
go back. "Ixtlan" is by definition childhood's home that one can never
return to. These are timeless and profound concepts, that transcend
the venue of leaping shadows and bridges in the fog. Casteneda is
an unusual writer, and his insistence on portraying his character as an
annoying whiner gets a little wearing after a while. The two messages
I found in this work - that the world is much more than appears, and
that it is important not to sleepwalk through our lives - these
concepts never wear thin for me. And the observation that our modern
man can learn these lessons from a superstitious old Yaqui is endlessly
gratifying to me.
There are many ways to get to the place that
Casteneda is trying to show us, and therefore I can't place this volume
in the "must read" category. But the concepts have value, and you
won't regret the effort in getting to the last page."
http://www.amazon.com/Jou...TF8&showViewpoints=1



MY CONCLUSION

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LADY SENOR WENCESLAO WROTE:
Beals has stated in "The
American Anthropologist" (1978) that when doubtful about Castaneda's
claims he began to press for verbatim copies of the student's field
notes.. Rather than comply Carlos "simply disappeared" for several
months. When Beals, a man of integrity and honesty and the only
committee member knowledgeable about Yaqui and Mexico Indian culture,
was pressed by other committee members to relent in his request in order
to "get things back on track" Beals withdrew from the process
altogether and ended up resigning from UCLA.

MY RESPONSE:
How
interesting! Did you see the notes of Ralph Beals that were used to
produce that piece of fiction because according to this he stayed at
UCLA until he retired. Why exactly should any of us believe YOU, lady
senor? Those who believe you are a man from the "Senor" in your
registered name already know you to be a liar. Didn't think I'd do my
own bit of research, did you...honey. Did he resign before or after he
retired...dearest:

"UCLA Professor Ralph L. Beals Dies
March 08, 1985
Ralph
L. Beals, professor emeritus of anthropology at UCLA and founder of the
university's departments of anthropology and sociology, died last week
at his Los Angeles home after a long illness, a campus spokesman said
Monday. He was 84.
Beals, who was hired by UCLA as an instructor
in 1936 and taught there for 33 years before his retirement, was a past
president of the American Anthropological Assn. and recipient of a
Guggenheim Fellowship and a National Science Foundation Grant."
http://articles.latimes.com/1985-03-08/ ... r-emeritus

MY COMMENT:
You
will need AT LEAST three INDEPENDENT sources to properly substantiate
your claims or, as far as any wise person is concerned, you are sharing
hearsay. I typed this into a search engine and could not substantiate
your wild claim...Senor.

The American Anthropologist - Ralph Beals - UCLA - Carlos Castaneda

Looks like you were sharing:  (((FICTION))), and trying to pass it off as fact, you hypocritical bottom-feeder, you.
Please back up your claims with solid proof or have a sex-change operation or...both...or at least the latter!
Cutche, coochie, coo you manly woman, you!
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!

*Just in case you are curious, yes, he/she/it stepped in it, alright!

[Sacateca.sorcery]

TORTILLA FLATS
Welcome to the new Meh-hee-can Soap Oprah called:
Tortilla Flats
I am your host Sancho Panza (yes, same one. Don't get it? GOOD!!)
and we are all excited about this new soap oprah that we know is going to be a big hit!
It's about the adventures of a young, beautiful, rich Meh-hee-can woman
and her obsessive desire to ridicule, humiliate and demoralize
every white man she gets romantically involved with; and she gets involved with a lot!
Five in just the first half-hour of the episode!
She eventually gets killed, but I'm not supposed to tell you that so forget I said anything, okay?

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Thought For The Day

"A wise person always knows when to keep his farts to himself"
-- Lau Lau Tsu

"A boy named Tsu"
--Johnny Carsh

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"We live in realms of surrealistic possibilities; waking dream states through which, in states of inner-silence, we can ruthlessly and assertively direct our thoughts, with impeccable pinpoint accuracy, towards entertaining and romancing the Source of All Creation, or the Spirit of Intent, into manifesting for us whatever wonderful things we may want or need in order to live the most fulfilling and happy lives possible."
--Sacateca

MY COMMENT:
Once again Intent has upgraded the above statement into making it all inclusive. The first draft of the statement, (many, many years ago), was very poetic and vague. Now it has become much more direct, self-explanatory and all inclusive. It now gives me the impression of being like a priceless egg in which everything needed to live a successful life is contained in a neat, sealed and fully contained package FOR ME. Of course, it takes access to a certain amount of stored Personal Power to make sense of it and make it functional and there are important things that are left out of this equation. The chief of which is:
The secrets for living in harmony with the source of all creation do not come for free. There are no free-rides with the Spirit of the Intent of the Universe. In order to make REAL progress one MUST pay the proper dues and the currency of The Spirit is a specific type of imposed suffering. Yes, you must SUFFER in certain prescribed manners that The Spirit of Intent determines and which are completely out of my personal control. If you don't pay the price you don't get the prize. I now believe there are different levels of suffering required in order to rise in Spiritual Rank.
Early in the morning, a couple of nights ago, I was awoken with my whole being in a pain I felt was like someone turning up some sort of pain dimmer switch with impeccable precision. I was given a message that I needed to be conscious and endure the pain to the best of my ability. I used hypnotic anesthesia and everything I could think of to tune out the pain and it just kept getting stronger and stronger until I was overwhelmed and passed out. When I awoke the pain was gone and I felt, in some undefined way, that I had advanced in Spiritual Rank to a much higher position when it comes to wonderful personal manifestations in my life.
My dream of turning the Entire Universe into my personal Amazon.com in which I properly place an order, release it, and know it will arrive and manifest is now more of a certain guarantee than ever before!
I feel as though Mother Nature has given me another Spiritual Medal to add to my collection and I will not realize just what this medal means until I push for manifestations through assertive, deliberate, impeccably focused inner-silence. I'm being led to believe that to aim for being like Castaneda's don Juan is to aim much too low. There are greater and more wonderful things possible than Castaneda's don Juan ever dreamt were possible. I can never hope to be just like don Juan so I'll have to settle for being GREATER than Castaneda's don Juan.
You 'bottom-feeding' skeptics may laugh and ridicule me for believing what I am empirically experiencing in my life. You may say that I MUST convince (((YOU))) for my personal perceptions to be truly valid. Well, I'm not sucker enough to fall for that anymore. YOU cannot convince me that I must jump through YOUR 'hoops' in order to be valid in what I share and personally experience. Fact of the matter is, the most important things about a personal relationship with Intent cannot be properly conveyed through words. If YOU walk into a crowded room and only one person in that room truly loves you that person stands out and that person is indeed the most real person in the room. Well, Mother Nature truly loves me and I feel that love and respect now more fully since I have paid a new round of my Spiritual dues.

[Moebius Duck]

Sacateca wrote: Still I myself, as a former
researcher in Harvard University's anthropology department and a student
of human ethology, can forgive this sin on one level and enjoy this
book as a powerful work of literature.
You were a researcher at Harvard? When was that? Do you have any evidence? Or is that something you dreamed?

[Sacateca.sorcery]

Well whatdayaknow! Jeremy Donovan TBD is back from his second trip to Greece.
Was it any Greasier this time around, blubbery cheeks?  
I say the wise will agree with me that ALL BOOKS and information should be treated as fiction until empirically proven otherwise. The unwise will not agree with me and continue to argue that Castaneda's books were fiction. Since I agree that ALL BOOKS contain fiction in one way or another I have no problem with the premise that Castaneda's books as well as The Bible as well as The Koran as well as The Bhagavad-Gita as well as 'ad infinitum' most probably contain some or complete fiction. Once this matter is resolved what remains is to answer the question of:
Not whether a book is true or not, but whether or not a book is useful!
I say use what works for you and hold the rest in question from ANY book. I say if Castaneda made don Juan up, made the cover of Time magazine and tricked UCLA into giving him a Ph. D that is a heck of a lot more interesting than if don Juan was an actual person. Whether any of the rest of you agree with me or not is truly none of my business. I say only fools argue back and forth about such matters. I say all who are wise will agree with me that if Castaneda faked it then his New York Times bestselling works were the works of a SUPER GENIUS!! That is my view and I'm sure most of the people who gave Journey To Ixtlan a five-star rating at Amazon.com will wholeheartedly agree with me. Whether YOU agree with me or not makes no difference to me. I don't expect monkeys to praise the works of and recite Shakespeare.
Look Jeremy, I believe Castaneda lied. I believe the creators of the New Testament lied as well as the creators of the Book of Mormon. I believe the creators of the Bhagavd-Gita lied. I believe YOU LIE!! So it is irrelevant to me whether or not Castaneda lied. What matters are the qualities of his writings and those writings are timeless to me. I'm in the process of reading Journey To Ixtlan again and I'm glad you brought up erasing personal history because that is the main thing I was going to write about in this post:

ON ERASING PERSONAL HISTORY:
While reading Journey To Ixtlan I just recently finished the section where don Juan strongly recommends that Castaneda erase his personal history if he really wants to learn about plants. While I agree that TEMPORARILY erasing personal history, through inner-silence, is essential for communicating with Mother Nature ALL THAT MOST PEOPLE HAVE is their personal history. When you meet someone new you strike up a conversation based on your personal history and their personal history. What are you supposed to say if a police officer pulls you over and asks for your ID? That you have no personal history? Get real!
TEMPORARILIY erasing personal history, through states of inner-silence, is of paramount importance when directly communicating with plants and the Spirit of Intent.
ALTERING our personal history through what we emphasize is sufficient when dealing with people. For example: suppose you viewed your past by focusing on the things that went wrong with your associations with Carlos Castaneda. That is your current personal history, right Jeremy? Now, how about altering your personal history by focusing primarily on the good you gained through your association with Carlos Castaneda. You're not lying. You're just focusing on the good you learned instead of the bad. It's not lying. It's the same personal history from the perspective of the good you gained rather than the bad. After all, Castaneda cured you of needing gurus in your life, right? If you didn't join Castaneda's cult you would now probably be a member of some other cult, if they had gotten to you first. Castaneda CURED YOU of needing to surrender your life to some guru. At the very least you should be grateful for that and YOU KNOW IT!
It is no lie to improve one's personal history by changing the emphasis of what we focus upon. There is nothing wrong in improving one's personal history through forgiving oneself and everyone else equally. Jeremy's problem is he can't forgive himself and, consequently, he can't forgive Carlos Castaneda for being an ****. Be honest, Jeremy. It's not like Castaneda didn't warn the world as to what type of leader he would be, right? He gave EVERYONE IN THE WHOLE WORLD ample warning of the type of leader he would be, right? If YOU took him as your guru in spite of the warnings YOU MUST TAKE FULL RESPONSIBILITY for staying in that group. You should have left the group, but you didn't and now you whine and complain like some little irresponsible mentally retarded child.
BE A MAN AND TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR JOINING CASTANEDA'S GROUP AND STAYING WITH CASTANEDA'S GROUP!!!
You whining little wimp!
'I was hurt and it was all Castaneda's fault. Waaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!'
The rallying cry of the Castaneda jackasss wimps who refuse to take responsibility for their lives.
DO YOU TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR JOINING CASTANEDA GROUP AND STAYING IN THAT GROUP? If you do then stop whining like a little baby, you ****!
I believe Tom, Guy Gardner, the wisest members of this forum and myself would NEVER have been dumb enough to stay in that cult under the ridiculous conditions that Castaneda demanded. YOU WERE DUMB ENOUGH and you have NO ONE ELSE TO BLAME BUT YOURSELF for being that dumb!!!!
It's about time you get this through your thick head, Jeremy!
I'm not the type of person who responds like a trained monkey as you did while in Castaneda's cult. At best I would have been kicked out for sure. Most probably after the first day!

[Sacateca.sorcery]

INTRODUCTION:
It's been an amazing weekend overdosing on fresh made vegetable juice and fruit smoothies. It's amazing how wonderful the stuff feels going into my metabolism. Quite stimulating indeed! Today I just finished drinking the most amazing pineapple smoothie I have EVER had. Made with organic pineapple nectar, chunks of REAL, fresh pineapple and an egg. Wow! That's the stuff alright!
Super Nectar of the Gods!
It went down great after the powerful workout I put in today. My goal of becoming more powerful, with Intent, than ever before is slowly being realized. I was quite shocked to see myself in the big gym mirrors. From a distance I look like some sort of muscular demi-god or something. Quite beautiful and impressive indeed! I've never been this muscular before in my entire life. Super Juiced Out Muscles!

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TO JEREMY DONOVAN TBD:
I told you the grounds for the truce between us
and you gave a wimpy wishy washy response to the terms. I'll share them again,
THESE ARE THE GROUNDS FOR THE TRUCE:
I believe there was a don Juan, but I could be wrong
YOU believe there was not a don Juan, but YOU could be wrong

If you agree to these grounds then we are equals and there can be peace between us

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TO JEREMY TBD:
You do realize the assumption that the reality surrounding us is made up of dependably solid objects is...fiction. You realize that, right? So, that makes ALL OF LIFE a fiction. It's not sold and "real" as science used to teach us reality was. Electrons and atoms are not solid. They are made of vibrating energy. It was a defective paradigm premise to believe the world around us is made of solid objects. It was indeed FICTION and so everything we think we are is in fact mostly: FICTION!
Don Juan was correct. We are infinitely more than we think we are and what we call "life" is in actuality an unfathomable mystery. WE are an equal part of that unfathomable mystery.
To think of life as otherwise is...FICTION.
You probably don't realize that yet, do you?

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If you people were winners you would not gloss over this improvement I have made on a don Juan teaching.
The Spirit has helped me to upgrade don Juan's beliefs.
I'm being taught there are greater things in Heaven and Earth than are even dreamt of in don Juan's philosophy towards life

ON ERASING PERSONAL HISTORY:
While reading Journey To Ixtlan I just recently finished the section where don Juan strongly recommends that Castaneda erase his personal history if he really wants to learn about plants. While I agree that TEMPORARILY erasing personal history, through inner-silence, is essential for communicating with Mother Nature ALL THAT MOST PEOPLE HAVE is their personal history. When you meet someone new you strike up a conversation based on your personal history and their personal history. What are you supposed to say if a police officer pulls you over and asks for your ID? That you have no personal history? Get real!
TEMPORARILIY erasing personal history, through states of inner-silence, is of paramount importance when directly communicating with plants and the Spirit of Intent.
ALTERING our personal history through what we emphasize is sufficient when dealing with people. For example: suppose you viewed your past by focusing on the things that went wrong with your associations with Carlos Castaneda. That is your current personal history, right Jeremy? Now, how about altering your personal history by focusing primarily on the good you gained through your association with Carlos Castaneda. You're not lying. You're just focusing on the good you learned instead of the bad. It's not lying. It's the same personal history from the perspective of the good you gained rather than the bad. After all, Castaneda cured you of needing gurus in your life, right? If you didn't join Castaneda's cult you would now probably be a member of some other cult, if they had gotten to you first. Castaneda CURED YOU of needing to surrender your life to some guru. At the very least you should be grateful for that and YOU KNOW IT!
It is no lie to improve one's personal history by changing the emphasis of what we focus upon. There is nothing wrong in improving one's personal history through forgiving oneself and everyone else equally. Jeremy's problem is he can't forgive himself and, consequently, he can't forgive Carlos Castaneda for being an ****. Be honest, Jeremy. It's not like Castaneda didn't warn the world as to what type of leader he would be, right? He gave EVERYONE IN THE WHOLE WORLD ample warning of the type of leader he would be, right? If YOU took him as your guru in spite of the warnings YOU MUST TAKE FULL RESPONSIBILITY for staying in that group. You should have left the group, but you didn't and now you whine and complain like some little irresponsible mentally retarded child.

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JEREMY DONOVAN TBD WROTE:
I do not believe that 'anyone could have made don Juan up'.  Not at all.  My actual view is that Castaneda was a pretty unusual character.  In fact, I've only met a small handful of people in my life who were somewhat similar in their ability to make up wild intricate mythologies like that.  Such people are actually rather rare.  And I've already expressed my view that back in the early seventies when UCLA awarded Castaneda's Ph.D. there was enormously less information available on Castaneda than there was in the late 90's when SA began to debunk him more thoroughly.  Furthermore, my actual view on de Mille is that some of his arguments aren't so hot, while others are very good.
MY RESPONSE:
Face it, Jeremy. Besides Castaneda you have NEVER met ANYONE who could equal what he did ESPECIALLY if he faked it all. That's a fact and you know it!
The problem with UCLA is the problem with organized religions. THEY would make themselves the authorities as to what books are fiction what books are not.
I say ALL BOOKS are fiction until I personally verify them as otherwise and I say all who are wise will adopt my stance about books and information imparted by a race of lying hypocrites!

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JUXTAPOSITION OF VIEWS:
I believe if Castaneda made don Juan up and earned a Ph. D he was a super-genius
JEREMY:
YOU believe it took no genius to do it and YOU know who deserves a Ph. D and who doesn't

I say that ALL BOOKS CONTIAIN FICTION.  I will no longer believe ANYTHING ANYONE tells me, in books or otherwise, unless I personally and empirically verify the information for myself
YOU apparently say some books are fiction and some are non-fiction

I believe YOU are nuts for holding such beliefs
YOU believe I am nuts for not blindly believing and agreeing with you

So, I'm willing to call it a tie and end this war between us
Whatdayasay,...pal?

BTW:  I was being facetious when I said you just got back from your second trip to Greece.
I'm surprised I actually have to tell you this

duh

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ENERGYLOVER WROTE:
"why do YOU HAVE TO DEFEND your position? Why? Why focking bother?"
MY RESPONSE:
Because, unlike YOU, if I am incorrect in my beliefs I want to know so that I can upgrade them. Obviously, you automatically assumed I didn't have a good answer for those questions. Since you OBVIOUSLY care nothing about upgrading the quality of your life you could not see this on your own.

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LADY SENOR WROTE:
"Journey to Ixtlan is not a literary masterpiece."
MY RESPONSE:
That's YOUR opinion and you are entitled to it, but most of the people reviewing the book at Amazon.com would disagree with you and...so do I

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I drink fruit smoothies too.
Sacateca wrote:INTRODUCTION:
Earlier today I put in a phenomenal workout. I've come to the conclusion that the only way to properly deal with a lying, insanely self-destructive race that has little to no respect for itself or its planet is from a position of STRENGTH. I no longer need to get my muscles to grow bigger, but I feel I do need to increase the phenomenal power of my martial arts ability. In my mind I 'see' myself moving faster and more powerfully than ever before. In my mind I 'see' myself moving so fast and powerfully that people say I am faster than Bruce Lee. The question is: Am I good enough to realistically become that powerful with Intent? Can I clearly 'see' myself becoming that powerful and fast? In all honesty the answer is: YES INDEED! I CAN CLEARLY 'SEE' MYSELF BECOMING THAT FAST AND POWERFUL and I really, REALLY WANT IT!!!
Oh yes indeed and whether or not YOU believe me is none of my business
After my phenomenal workout I had a marvelous pomegranate smoothie that REALLY hit the proverbial 'spot'. I've been making these fruit smoothies and I just bought pre-packaged frozen organic fruit berry combinations for fruit smoothies whenever I may want them. I no longer have to be tied to eating fruit before it spoils. I am free now thanks to the fact that I realized the organic smoothie place keeps their smoothie fruit frozen>

Grrrreat!~

About personal history:
It is possible to erase it more than temporarily, not easy to do though and certainly take more work than most people are willing to do. That is why, most people, just aren't warriors. Easier to take the easy way and argue the reasons why not to DO something, such as erase personal history, to justify and explain than it is to get down to business. Of course, after a time, the drain of explaining and excusing becomes quite taxing. Maybe then, a person will decide to get moving? Who knows really? My thought for today anyway.

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I responded to you on this thread:
http://sorcery.yuku.com/t...r/1/?page=1#.ToJBrexlFno

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