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I've decided to post this once again on its own thread to make sure people see it. It is important to know why the Eagle doesn't automatically try to consume sorcerers, and it is because the Eagle is like a door man at a night club who checks you in, he accounts for everyone coming and going, and the numbers have to add up. So, when a sorcerer is born, the Eagle checks in the Human part and the IB part, and when a sorcerer dies, he eats the human and spits out the IB for later. Although he doesn't consume the IB, he does strip it of all its memories, so it isn't pleasant. But, when a sorcerer is actualized, they create a third awareness that was not there at birth, this is the part that holds both human and inorganic memories, awareness and energy in one package. Since the Eagle never checked it in, he doesn't count it out either, he just lets it pass without being processed. But, if you stand there long enough, he will take the offer of a free meal, so don't dilly-dally.
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Can You elaborate please on the God (the existent one) and the Eagle ( or Dark sea of Awareness), whats the difference and the relation ? Thanks.
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dreamways wrote:I've decided to post this once again on its own thread to make sure people see it. It is important to know why the Eagle doesn't automatically try to consume sorcerers, and it is because the Eagle is like a door man at a night club who checks you in, he accounts for everyone coming and going, and the numbers have to add up. So, when a sorcerer is born, the Eagle checks in the Human part and the IB part, and when a sorcerer dies, he eats the human and spits out the IB for later. Although he doesn't consume the IB, he does strip it of all its memories, so it isn't pleasant. But, when a sorcerer is actualized, they create a third awareness that was not there at birth, this is the part that holds both human and inorganic memories, awareness and energy in one package. Since the Eagle never checked it in, he doesn't count it out either, he just lets it pass without being processed. But, if you stand there long enough, he will take the offer of a free meal, so don't dilly-dally.
Yeah recapitulation is a must, but also sorcerer need to dedicate his life to bridge the overwhelming force of third attention. Which is hard to do and what it really is knows few, all over the world.
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RaINbow DIAMOND UNICORN wrote:'see' the Eagle...
can anyone tell me what they 'see' as the 'Eagle'?http://sorcery.yuku.com/reply/32546#reply-32546
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dreamways wrote:I've decided to post this once again on its own thread to make sure people see it. It is important to know why the Eagle doesn't automatically try to consume sorcerers, and it is because the Eagle is like a door man at a night club who checks you in, he accounts for everyone coming and going, and the numbers have to add up. So, when a sorcerer is born, the Eagle checks in the Human part and the IB part, and when a sorcerer dies, he eats the human and spits out the IB for later. Although he doesn't consume the IB, he does strip it of all its memories, so it isn't pleasant. But, when a sorcerer is actualized, they create a third awareness that was not there at birth, this is the part that holds both human and inorganic memories, awareness and energy in one package. Since the Eagle never checked it in, he doesn't count it out either, he just lets it pass without being processed. But, if you stand there long enough, he will take the offer of a free meal, so don't dilly-dally.
weve covered this.. The eagle consumes the living awarness of a intelligent being at the moment of their death..
so that their energy can be recycled through the manifesting void.. in order to attribute the greates immpecability to future births of other intelligent individuals..
CLEARS UP THE RUBBISH SO TO SPEAK!
This is its purpose to keep the further reaches clear..
HOWEVER there is a clause..
THE EAGLE is pretty much a programme..
and if your awarness has more immpecability and potential energy..
IT cannot touch you.. because you INFINITE JOURNEY is a source of power for its own machinations..
I.e. it can feed its awarness by watching you..
It does not need to consume you..
and hence you travel in parralell..
becasue of the nature of the beings it consumes..
the eagle consumes the OTHER...
If you have stalked yourself to emptyness.
your self awarness will polarise with the selfcentredness of the thousands of human remains flowing through its beak...
essentially.. it wont consume you becasue its task is to consume those who are NOT EMPTY...
you are less and less on its list of priorities the more like it you get..
the inorganic beings are in the left wing of the eagle..
It does NOT eat them.. that would be ridiculous.. like cannibalism.
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maybe the eating of the OB is actually like just "sucking its fingers" as opposed to spitting them out..you make them sound so alone.. and im pretty certain the eagle doesnt really have that much seperativeness..
probably more like.. OH , thats a bit of me! so it doesnt eat itself.. MAKE SENSE .
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rosygyro wrote:I.e. it can feed its awarness by watching you..
It does not need to consume you..
and hence you travel in parralell..
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this makes the eagle a growing bolus of transmutation energy..
increasing in intelligence and potential energy until oneday it will curl back on itself and take a new form.
presumably thats once everybody has slipped past and become IT!
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this is so good, thank you!
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you all new agers will go to hell
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scout1 wrote:you all new agers will go to hell
Scout, with all respect i want to say that your behaviour is in cynical mode and also this is in self-reflection mode. You need to recapitulate your past mistakes and misdeeds, then stop pitying your self. Remember, every situation has positive effect on you, so find it. Then Stalk your eyes into silent knowledge.
As i noticed you like to read so i add a quote:
'As the feeling of the individual self became stronger, man lost his natural connection to silent knowledge. Modern man, being heir to that development, therefore finds himself so hopelessly removed from the source of everything that all he can do is express his despair in violent and cynical acts of self-destruction. Don Juan asserted that the reason for man's cynicism and despair is the bit of silent knowledge left in him, which does two things: one, it gives man an inkling of his ancient connection to the source of everything; and two, it makes man feel that without this connection, he has no hope of peace, of satisfaction, of attainment.'
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RaINbow DIAMOND UNICORN wrote:intolerant fear-mongerer...
follow your own advice and grow up
why do you feel you have to attack 'newagers' unless they threaten your beliefs... why would your beliefs be threatened if they are truthful?
I thought a nagual has no points to defend?
THINK FOR YOURSELF
be open to new TRUTHS...
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dont blindly dogmatically take Castaneda's words as the final holy truth...
free yourself from dogmatic Toltec theology / ideology !!!
the battle is for your mind and it aint against some evil ghost, its against your own human stupidity / arrogance!
This is classic internet trolling, going on to forums that contradict your own beliefs and then attacking the people on it. RDU, you are the "intolerant fear-mongerer" here, I don't know why LoneWolf hasn't banned you yet.
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RaINbow DIAMOND UNICORN wrote:I'm on this forum because I am fascinated by Castaneda's works and the teachings of don Juan... but I THINK for myself and question everything.
This is the problem, you are approaching nagualism as something to think about, whereas I am practicing it. This is the nature of your idiocy.
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I think that the difference between LW and myself is that he hopes to enlighten people like r.u.d, whereas I am only trying to help those folks who are already practicing nagualism. I don't have any interest in convincing anyone that nagualism is right for them, I'm not trying to recruit or convert anyone. I practice nagualism, I don't put any energy into making my mind believe in it. My opinion does not count in my spiritual path as it is determined through seeing, not thinking. But r.u.d. doesn't understand what a spiritual path is, he thinks it is a mind game, so this is why he attacks it. The funny thing is, r.u.d. probably thinks that I am writing all this for him.
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practicing nagualism...ah...the key.
Carlos initiated things for many, but its time for the more experienced to step into their own, indeed. I use his legacy as a framework...but honestly, the powerful naguals I have met here are more a barometer for me than the books. I depend on them and hopefully they depend on me...find me of use. lol If I were just here at home sitting with my pile of books....*** it...its over. Thats not enough to transform. Linking with others via forums, in dreaming...and tonal visits and visions...all this is what we are now embarking on. Join us rather then see 'same old same ole'. Every warrior will be embraced...the trick is being open to it. We need others Rainbowdiamond. Warriors need parties to advance.
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Dreamways, you are you, you say what you think and then move on. For you, its the adventure that counts. A bit abrasive at times?...yes, but not so many people like you to say what you say with such directness and 'carenot' attitude so its good to have you on board.
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Perhaps you could add a little sugar cube to your bitter tea though? heehee
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Nu Lang wrote:the powerful naguals I have met here are more a barometer for me
than the books. I depend on them and hopefully they depend on me...find
me of use. lol If I were just here at home sitting with my pile of
books....*** it...its over. Thats not enough to transform. Linking with
others via forums, in dreaming...and tonal visits and visions...all
this is what we are now embarking on. Join us rather then see 'same old
same ole'. Every warrior will be embraced...the trick is being open to
it. We need others Rainbowdiamond. Warriors need parties to advance.
Well said once again and I heartily agree. LOL heck, I think I'll just let you speak for me from now on, lol you do it so well!
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Enchantra...Thanks for the compliment Cool that we have so much similar in our thinking. Maybe it indicates its not "thinking" ....cool.
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On second thought...straight up bitter tea is probably just what you need Rainbow...something to really shake you out of your convictions. Which are quite entrenched,
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RaINbow DIAMOND UNICORN wrote:I am here to advance the teachings of nagualism, which means questioning Toltec beliefs and integrating other systems of thought and rejecting that which is no longer useful...
Ok. Which part you want to advance and which to reject?
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Rainbow...I edited out your attack to dreamways in that other thread...since renaming this web site and having new members arrive..Turin, Lone Wolf and I all agree we will not be so toleratant on such reactionary behaviors as before. This is The New Seers now...trying to move momentum in a new direction...your cooperation is appreciated.
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Rainbow...don't fool yourself...I have always tolerated your behavior and messing up threads...no feathers ruffled. I am moderator and doing my task which is what we 3 agreed upon about recently. To see less attacking of members and more meaningful conversations. You can respond to dreamways in that thread...like I said. Or post a meaningful response to what he said here that pertains to what he said here rather than what you bring here from the previous exchange...see what I mean?
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RaINbow DIAMOND UNICORN wrote:White Knight wrote:RaINbow DIAMOND UNICORN wrote:I am here to advance the teachings of nagualism, which means questioning Toltec beliefs and integrating other systems of thought and rejecting that which is no longer useful...
Ok. Which part you want to advance and which to reject?
Well you will never figure it out if you dont put some thought into it...
i would say that it need to intend for generate any idea, especially in nagualism... have you ever thought that your thoughts are worthless if you just think about spiritual things...
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