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Lex...sorry took me so long to answer, these days I haven't been online very much. What I wrote about the rule is a quick response and comes from previous inner investigation on the rule and how I as a western man should interpret it. I, too have been thinking of the subject unaware of this thread. Dreamways and I too have been having some discussion as well elsewhere.
The warrior's party.
I remembered when I did burn from within. When I died and what I saw or not saw and what I felt. Past the eagle lies infinity for all we know. Being this "Lone Wolf" as a warrior means living without the company of other warriors. My double knows otherwise and I would venture to say seeks forming the party over and above what my intent is. The reason for the party: To not be alone out there.
I believe I can "take" some with me but of course it would be better they take themselves with me. I believe in my heart I can "go past" the being that seers call the eagle. In truth, I believed I would find the others gone before me for "company".
The rule came to me when I was very young in an abstract way, I read it later in the E. gift and then knew what I had been shown. The warriors party part of the rule showed me what I needed to know: it can be done.
Thus to answer, I created this forum to find other warriors. The Ravenfield private forum was created as a forum to form a party ( dreaming school). This has been going on for years so there is the answer to your stalking dear Lex. Yes, I have actively seeked to form a party since 2001.
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Lex, does it matter what people here believe about themselves?
Whether its considering themselves to be a Nagual (there's more than
one), or they say they have burned within...and there's another here
saying they are a 'walk in' too.....I just consider it to be what people
believe about themselves, end of story....and not true necessarily. To
me, a Nagual is what DJM presented, Julian etc....and I would never get
enough experience of someone over a computer to agree that they are a
Nagual....all I can get is that they consider themselves to be one, and
they might indeed be, but I dont know and wont know via this medium so
dismiss thinking about it. Im more focused on the energy the person
brings here, the nuggets they bring, their skills, and approach. Who
cares if they call themselves this or that? as long as Im not required
to agree, Im fine with it. Turin
.and I would never get
enough experience of someone over a computer to agree that they are a
Nagual....all I can get is that they consider themselves to be one Turin
Yes web environments foster anonymity not intimacy. Keeping that in mind I am thankful for Lex Icon.
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The Ravenfield private forum was created as a forum to form a party ( dreaming school). This has been going on for years so there is the answer to your stalking dear Lex. Yes, I have actively sought to form a party since 2001. LW
First LW it was not my intent to thrust you forward into this acute focus of attention. I think it was NL that was moving in that direction and I just asked her straight forward if she was referring to you. And this is what has unfolded.
I understand if this is not something that would be advisable to discuss in an public forum, but until you say otherwise a few questions.
How is the endeavor going since your beginning in 2001? (Progress report).
Are you now “convinced” of the Rule? (How did you become convinced NL?)
Are you using the party “model” advised in Eagle’s Gift?
Are you finding the appropriate energetic configurations of members?
What positions have you filled and what remain vacant?
How do you deal with the no volunteer issue?
How do you deal with those who have been “marked” for induction but do not wish to join?
Is your party “cross cultural” meaning of more than one lineage?
If it is more than one lineage how do you deal with that?
(The need for separate lineages does seem to have past ie; no Spaniards to hide from)
Is the internet beneficial or a hindrance in this regard?
If we are being true to the Rule as presented in Eagle’s Gift (orthodox) , then I would imagine these are difficult questions and frame the dilemma for parties today when considering the Rule and how to proceed.
If you are not yet in the position to address these issues and are forming a dreaming group instead; is the intent of that dreaming group to address the sort of questions I raise above, which I consider implicit in any consideration of the Rule, or is it to just simply learn about and prepare yourselves and others to transfer awareness to energetic bodies at the moment of death or before?
On a side note:
http://www.youtube.com/wa...stYk&feature=related
A good bird dog is disciplined and in tune with the hunters intent.
Bird dogs that are just instinctual go about their happy pointing regardless of the hunters position or intent and usually flush the quarry before the hunter is ready.
http://www.youtube.com/wa...boxQ&feature=related
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lex icon wrote:
First LW it was not my intent to thrust you forward into this acute
focus of attention. I think it was NL that was moving in that direction
and I just asked her straight forward if she was referring to you. And
this is what has unfolded. Wow that's a show of gentlemanly spirit if I ever saw one!
+ Awareness +
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First LW it was not my intent to thrust you forward into this acute focus of attention. I think it was NL that was moving in that direction and I just asked her straight forward if she was referring to you. And this is what has unfolded.Wolf is it ok I thrusted you forward?
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Well, I like questions because I'm a chatter box...with me you will get some answers to questions addressed to me, and often even the ones not addressed to me, lol. But this one had my 'name on it'
Are you now “convinced” of the Rule? (How did you become convinced NL?)
Seeing/experiencing sorcery. Not something small like an omen coming true or a prophetic dream, but real sorcery...that convinced me Lex there are no 'rules' to this tonal world, only thing that governs it is intent/sorcery and the eagle, and by intending our freedom we can bend those such rules that are not set in stone. The tonal feels so concrete but once that concreteness is broken, we can see it so mailable and impossible things are now possibilities. Then I consider Spirit or the force of creation is the guide, and it puts on our path what we need to follow (CC framework given to me as a teen). Then we hold freedom as our navigational star and we can't go wrong.
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About the rule Lex, to me, the fact the the rule was defied before proves it can be done again, but that doesn't mean it has to be done in the exact same manner as before, all that the past tells us is it can be done...warrior parties can be formed and the eagle can be passed. I think all those 'particulars' are not any more set then the rule that seemed to prevent freedom in the first place. Now yes, one has to be convinced of this. I say its all abotu intent, you first realize you are not headed for freedom...but rather to be devoured by the eagle, then once you see this, you intend otherwise. I think its possible for one to do this without a party. But since I have a change to be with Wolf, and others, of course I would rather do that. And for me, its not a choice really...I marvel at how nothing is ever really a choice, yet it is.
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Nu Lang wrote:About the rule Lex, to me, the fact the the rule was defied before proves it can be done again, but that doesn't mean it has to be done in the exact same manner as before, all that the past tells us is it can be done...warrior parties can be formed and the eagle can be passed. I think all those 'particulars' are not any more set then the rule that seemed to prevent freedom in the first place. Now yes, one has to be convinced of this. I say its all abotu intent, you first realize you are not headed for freedom...but rather to be devoured by the eagle, then once you see this, you intend otherwise. I think its possible for one to do this without a party. But since I have a change to be with Wolf, and others, of course I would rather do that. And for me, its not a choice really...I marvel at how nothing is ever really a choice, yet it is."Power always makes a cubic centimeter of chance available to a warrior. The
warrior's art is to be perennially fluid in order to pluck it."
TALES OF POWER
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Are you now “convinced” of the Rule? (How did you become convinced NL?) Lex
My mistake. I meant LW not NL. I was asking LW, because earlier he had expressed doubts about the second part of the rule. Then he seemed to be totally on board with it and I wondered how he had become convinced concerning this.
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About the rule Lex, to me, the fact the the rule was defied before proves it can be done again, NL
NL what are you referring to when you say the Rule was defied before?
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Well, a part of the rule...the eagle devours man's awareness.
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lex icon wrote:My mistake. I meant LW not NL.
Yeah, lol. After I put my new name together...and LW helped me on this, I realized afterwards that I am WNL and he is NLW.
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lex icon wrote:
LEX: I understand if this is not something that would be advisable to discuss in an public forum, but until you say otherwise a few questions. WOLF: I'll address some of your questions but prefer private discussion on more personal goals. When you address me I respond usually in two fashions as I do with most here. I'm a stalker first. I would advise any not to take me word for word but to read between the words as I do with those who write me. I believe I do not need the warriors party to achieve freedom because of past experiences. I consider myself fluid and not fixed though and can of course change my mind. The other way I will respond to people is with silent knowledge. This is way harder to explain in words and often where it comes from or what it means is something I even have to study. I will add this disclaimer: stalkers do not always tell you the truth until your or they are ready.
How is the endeavor going since your beginning in 2001? (Progress report). WOLF: I have helped many achive amazing results. There has been those who ran away scared because of what they dreamed with me/us. Dreaming groups attract power and other beings plus inorganics. I, have had groups who fit the model of the sorcerers party but it didn't last and distance is the greatest barrier. Thus its been good and bad and these days there are those who part of a party but its not the focus of the private dreaming forum at this time to form the party. I'm still seeking warriors.
Are you now “convinced” of the Rule? (How did you become convinced NL?) WOLF: Not convinced its the only way but the rule is still the rule.
Are you using the party “model” advised in Eagle’s Gift? WOLF: I have before.
Are you finding the appropriate energetic configurations of members? WOLF: I have and do so still once I can access them.
What positions have you filled and what remain vacant? WOLF: I could use a good scout...
How do you deal with the no volunteer issue? WOLF: I use my double for the dirty work.
How do you deal with those who have been “marked” for induction but do not wish to join? WOLF: see above answer.
Is your party “cross cultural” meaning of more than one lineage? WOLF: Not something I will answer here.
If it is more than one lineage how do you deal with that? WOLF: I accept it for there is no other choice.
(The need for separate lineages does seem to have past ie; no Spaniards to hide from)
Is the internet beneficial or a hindrance in this regard? WOLF: Its a two edge sword and involves using dreaming to make the sorcery connections.
If we are being true to the Rule as presented in Eagle’s Gift (orthodox) , then I would imagine these are difficult questions and frame the dilemma for parties today when considering the Rule and how to proceed. WOLF: Yes I agree.
If you are not yet in the position to address these issues and are forming a dreaming group instead; is the intent of that dreaming group to address the sort of questions I raise above, which I consider implicit in any consideration of the Rule, or is it to just simply learn about and prepare yourselves and others to transfer awareness to energetic bodies at the moment of death or before? WOLF: This is more for private discussion in the group. The dreaming group is currently seeking members, success in dreaming with each other becomes monumental in forming the nagual party.
Stalking is seeking the Nagual's Intent.
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Nu Lang wrote: Yeah, lol. After I put my new name together...and LW helped me on this, I realized afterwards that I am WNL and he is NLW. That is funny Nu Lang and nice stalking.
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Nagual LoneWolf wrote:Nu Lang wrote: Yeah, lol. After I put my new name together...and LW helped me on this, I realized afterwards that I am WNL and he is NLW. That is funny Nu Lang and nice stalking.
Stalking is seeking the Nagual's Intent.
Thanks.
awesome...
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Nu Lang wrote:
Nagual LoneWolf wrote:
Nu Lang wrote: Yeah, lol. After I put my new name together...and LW helped me on this, I realized afterwards that I am WNL and he is NLW. That is funny Nu Lang and nice stalking.
Stalking is seeking the Nagual's Intent.
Thanks.
awesome...
Seriously , I don't see the connection?
like if there is a connection between DOG / GOD or evil / live??
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Not to seem like another stalker's ass here, but I can see the connection between the ONE and NEO
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ninth octave wrote:Nu Lang wrote:
Nagual LoneWolf wrote:
Nu Lang wrote: Yeah, lol. After I put my new name together...and LW helped me on this, I realized afterwards that I am WNL and he is NLW. That is funny Nu Lang and nice stalking.
Stalking is seeking the Nagual's Intent.
Thanks.
awesome...
Seriously , I don't see the connection?
like if there is a connection between DOG / GOD or evil / live??
Well, thats becasue you don't know the background in how the name was created.
First I gave Wolf a Chinese nic name, for the hey of it. Then he said he needed to give me a nic name and he would "think about it" and then I started to tease him becasue he hadn't come up with one for days and would say "still thinking". Then one day he called me the she-wolf due to an experience...I liked that and looked it up in Chinese...nu Lang. Since Lang was already an omen word for me I decided to use it. But I wanted to keep the name Wei still and just get rid of the Shan Yang part. So I looked up variant meanings of Wei...supportive, grand, and some others, lol. But there was one meaning...Wei...'alone or only'. I said, hey that would make me Lone Wolf, technically Lone female Wolf. I told Wolf about it, then I changed my user name to Nu Lang, I didn't use the Wei in my user name because then everyone would just keep calling me Wei, which I just wanted a change is all. So after I put my name together I saw it was WNL.
Long story short, I stalked the name he "thought of"...which was also the nagual's intent. I didn't plan all the similarities between our names, they just happened.
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"like if there is a connection between DOG / GOD"
both are man's best friend.
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