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Most of the people that try to enter the path of Nagual Seership fails to know the very basic steps. Wanting to jump directly to the exciting aspects of this
path of power they neglect to see that it's not a walk in the park, nor a visit to a circus.
Mexican Nagual Seership is a path of Spiritual Freedom. Ok? It's a long road that is walked moment by moment
for a very long time and requires giving up a lot of superfluous aspects of one's life.
If you are not willing to embrace the discipline of the Nagual Path you are better off doing something else, more easy
and less dangerous for an overindulgent egomaniac.
At least you won't be killed by trying to grab an ally, doing
power-plants, journeying to deadly dreaming places or end up trapped in the
world of inorganic beings. Think about it... really, do
it.
Ok... if you really want to do it you need to learn to live in a way that is coherent with your spiritual aspirations.
You need to become a warrior. Weak idiots never become more than powerless idle
talkers.
1. A warrior is, first and foremost, responsible for all his actions and
negligences. Bitching about your parents, your life, environment and personal situation doesn't fly in this path.
Your potential of living a life of freedom, power and enjoyment is in your hands.
2. A warrior becomes growingly aware that he is inevitably going to die. Aware of his fleeting life a warrior
doesn't waste a second in silly behaviours, procrastination and habits that produce psycho-physical weakening. He
act deliberately, with reflection and audacity as if every
moment is his last in this world. If he feels indulgent or in an impossible situation, he seeks advice from his death.
3. A warrior, knowing that his brain chatter is inspired by flyers and is preventing him from being fluent and seeing the subtle realities, permanently struggles to sustain the Silence of
his Mind. Silence becomes his language, controlled folly his words.
4. A warrior, knowing that his personal history binds him to the world of the dull-normals recapitulates all his life. He day by day dies as a dull-normal for the opportunity of becoming a care-free warrior-traveler on the path of Freedom.
5. A warrior, knowing that his self-importance weakens him and makes him a
morbid normal swinging from arrogance to self-pity stalks
himself, breaking his routines of action and thought, allowing himself to be fluent and sober. In the face of his inevitable death he knows that he is no better nor worst than
anyone.
He is a mortal, living a life that will come to and end. Knowing that he doesn't indulge in complexes of superiority nor self-pity. He has no pity for anyone. He respects the way of
life of his fellow men. He can't change them; he can only provide them a minimal chance, if they want it. He is
ruthless, but loving.
6. A warrior, knowing that the Spirit has tasks for him, struggles to
fulfill them to the best of his abilities, without obsession nor negligence.
7. A warrior doesn't need anybody nor anything to walk his way. Because he doesn't need anything, he can get
everything. Because he doesn't need benefactors, he finds them.
8. Above all, a warrior intends his freedom with all his
heart, knowing that the Spirit will give him his shot because of his energetic impeccability.
These are the very basics of Nagual Seership, the Warrior's Way
Without it we won't have enough energy to move the assemblage point,
keep it permanently in heightened awareness and
live to tell the tale.
Work them, if you are up to the challenge.
Happy hunting!
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grandspeculator wrote:
If you are not willing to embrace the discipline of the Nagual Path you are better off doing something else, more
easy and less dangerous for an overindulgent egomaniac.
At least you won't be killed by trying to grab an ally or end up trapped in the world of inorganic
beings. Think about it... really, do it.
hmm, let me think ....
yes, it definitely better to be dying 2 years in hospital having cancer, or being
smashed in car accident. this tonal world is so safe, warm and cozy
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The fundamental difference is that from death you can come back. Coming back from the world of the inorganics, once you are trapped, is not a walk in the park.
Warnings are not meant to discourage the walk of this path of power but to bring awareness of the dangers of it. It's not all flowers and roses.
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I didn't come to this path with purpose, I stumbled upon it. Questions have arisen in me lately. Wondering to myself, whether I really am on it or not.
Having not read all of the Castaneda books, I may not be aware of the sorceric feats that some may be trying to achieve. My introduction to all of this was
with a group of people who appeared dedicated and committed to becoming better human beings. I wanted to be a better human being.
It has taken me many many years to get the part about self responsibility and I still may not get it in the moment, but only upon reflection later. It is
through these teachings that I learned that there are many ways to look at something, not just the way that I thought it looked upon first glance.
In some ways, my real learning began after I left the group that I was involved with. Filled with skepticism and a real willingness to disbelieve, I came
across these message boards. That was about 5 years ago now. Oh man...I've had my hat handed to me a few times over these years...got to 'feel' my
self important world enough to have it explode into a million pieces. Ouch!
Alongside this skepticism, has been the part of me who has had experiences that defy scientific explanation...at least thus far. I admit that I have not made a
true dedicated sustained effort on this path, but in spite of myself, I'm still learning. In some ways, I think I started on this path before I ever knew
anything about it....years before, I had started shedding layers of myself and here I am now, still shedding. I don't know..it feels like this shedding
must take place before I can really begin.
Now what? Where does one really begin?
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He explained that the warriors' way was a structure of ideas established by the shamans of ancient Mexico. Those shamans had derived their construct by
means of their ability to see energy as it flows freely in the universe. Therefore, the warriors' way was a most harmonious conglomerate of energetic
facts, irreducible truths determined exclusively by the direction of the flow of energy in the universe. Don Juan categorically stated that there was nothing
about the warriors' way that could be argued, nothing that could be changed. It was in itself and by itself a perfect structure, and whoever followed it
was corralled by energetic facts that admitted no argument, no speculation about their function and their value. Don Juan said that those old shamans called
it the warriors' way because its structure encompassed all the living possibilities that a warrior might encounter on the path of knowledge. Those
shamans were absolutely thorough and methodical in their search for such possibilities. According to don Juan, they were indeed capable of including in their
abstract structure everything that is humanly possible. Don Juan compared the warriors' way to an edifice, with each of the elements of this edifice
being a propping device whose only function was to sustain the psyche of the warrior in his role of shaman initiate, in order to make his movements easy and
meaningful. He stated unequivocally that the warriors' way was the essential construct without which shaman initiates would be shipwrecked in the
immensity of the universe. Don Juan called the warriors' way the crowning glory of the shamans of ancient Mexico. He viewed it as their most important
contribution, the essence of their sobriety. "Is the warriors' way that overwhelmingly important, don Juan?" I asked him once.
"'Overwhelmingly important' is a euphemism. The warriors' way is everything. It is the epitome of mental and physical health. I cannot
explain it in any other way. For the shamans of ancient Mexico to have created such a structure means to me that they were at the height of their power, the
peak of their happiness, the apex of their joy."
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Miss B Hay Ven wrote:
...Now what? Where does one really begin?
Start with basic not-doing: Intend stopping all inner action. Don't try to force it. Just intend it. See what happens.
For more info, read this: Key for greater awareness
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He explained that the warriors' way was a structure of ideas established by the shamans of ancient Mexico. Those shamans had derived their construct by
means of their ability to see energy as it flows freely in the universe. Therefore, the warriors' way was
a most harmonious conglomerate of energetic facts, irreducible truths determined exclusively by the direction of the flow of energy in the universe. Don Juan
categorically stated that there was nothing about the warriors' way that could be argued, nothing that could be changed. It was in itself and by itself a
perfect structure, and whoever followed it was corralled by energetic facts that admitted no argument, no speculation
about their function and their value. Don Juan said that those old shamans called it the warriors' way because its structure encompassed all the living
possibilities that a warrior might encounter on the path of knowledge. Those shamans were absolutely thorough and methodical in their search for such
possibilities. According to don Juan, they were indeed capable of including in their abstract structure everything that is humanly possible. Don Juan
compared the warriors' way to an edifice, with each of the elements of this edifice being a propping device whose only function was to sustain the psyche
of the warrior in his role of shaman initiate, in order to make his movements easy and meaningful. He stated unequivocally that the warriors' way was the essential construct without which shaman initiates would be
shipwrecked in the immensity of the universe. Don Juan called the warriors' way the
crowning glory of the shamans of ancient Mexico. He viewed it as their most important contribution, the
essence of their sobriety. "Is the warriors' way that overwhelmingly important, don Juan?" I asked him once.
"'Overwhelmingly important' is a euphemism. The warriors' way is everything. It is the epitome of mental and physical health. I cannot explain it in any other way. For the shamans
of ancient Mexico to have created such a structure means to me that they were at the height of their power, the peak of their happiness, the apex of their
joy."
Great quote for those prone to argument and speculation...
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grandspeculator wrote:
seeitall wrote:
He explained that the warriors' way was a structure of ideas established by the shamans of ancient Mexico. Those shamans had derived their construct
by means of their ability to see energy as it flows freely in the universe. Therefore, the warriors' way was a most harmonious conglomerate of
energetic facts, irreducible truths determined exclusively by the
direction of the flow of energy in the universe. Don Juan categorically stated that there was nothing about the warriors' way that could be argued,
nothing that could be changed. It was in itself and by itself a perfect structure, and whoever followed it was
corralled by energetic facts that admitted no argument, no speculation about their function and their value. Don Juan said that those old shamans called
it the warriors' way because its structure encompassed all the living possibilities that a warrior might encounter on the path of knowledge. Those
shamans were absolutely thorough and methodical in their search for such possibilities. According to don Juan, they were indeed capable of including in
their abstract structure everything that is humanly possible. Don Juan compared the warriors' way to an edifice, with each of the elements of this
edifice being a propping device whose only function was to sustain the psyche of the warrior in his role of shaman initiate, in order to make his
movements easy and meaningful. He stated unequivocally that the warriors' way was the essential construct without
which shaman initiates would be shipwrecked in the immensity of the universe. Don Juan called the
warriors' way the crowning glory of the shamans of ancient Mexico. He viewed it as their most important contribution, the essence of their sobriety. "Is the warriors' way that overwhelmingly important, don Juan?" I asked him
once. "'Overwhelmingly important' is a euphemism. The warriors' way is everything. It is the epitome of mental and physical health. I cannot explain it in any other way. For the shamans of
ancient Mexico to have created such a structure means to me that they were at the height of their power, the peak of their happiness, the apex of their
joy."
Great quote for those prone to argument and speculation...
The bottom line on the warrior's way/sobriety is that it is plain old pragmatism, as scientific and physically oriented as anything modern man could
engineer. The one vulnerability it has is the same as any other school of thought, it can fall prey to a practitioner's lack of knowledge - that's why
it needs to be followed up with education, so the warrior can become a "man of knowledge."
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dreamways wrote:
grandspeculator wrote:
seeitall wrote:
Great quote for those prone to argument and speculation...
The bottom line on the warrior's way/sobriety is that it is plain old pragmatism, as scientific and physically oriented as anything modern man could
engineer. The one vulnerability it has is the same as any other school of thought, it can fall prey to a practitioner's lack of knowledge - that's
why it needs to be followed up with education, so the warrior can become a "man of knowledge."
More than education, one needs guidance of one that transversed the path. At the very least to avoid the pitfalls.
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Pitfalls are places where we face our fear.
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Nagual LoneWolf wrote:
Pitfalls are places where we face our fear.
Yeah, if one doesn't fall to deep, beyond a point-of-no-return.
PS: I think this tread could be a sticky one. A need-to-know basis of nagual seership for people lurking around this Forum.
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as we reach the next dimension as a species... we will find that the power of the eagle shifts only into the TONAL OF THE WARRIOR.!...
this is a blessed relief or the world as those who are situated in the south.. who have not yet achieved warriorship in their training this life will have all
their destruction drained and their power will flow in line with the main wisdom keepers....
well i say a blessed relief...but obviousley only for those who dont wish to be powerfull at the expense of their compadres in this life...
its a bit like cutting the NAGAL on earth in twain.. and basicly saying... all you on the left have energy at your comand.. all you on the right do as your
$£%^&* told!...
the actions will amount to pretty much the same thing on either side.. nameley the movement of the sun..... but the monkeys will not be carrying machine guns
anymore!...
warriorship pretty much is like crawling through hell... whith only love to guide you one way... and death to drag you to the other!.. we wont need the fake
shaman to laugh at within a short while.... besides it only makes you feel uncomfortably arrogant to witness power hungry cowards.....
so i cant wait for the eagles bite to end this ridiculous game! love or death..
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For me warriorship means impeccability.
We are being given the "arrows", all we can do is use them impeccably.
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Warriorship is a state of mind for one who seeks the nagual world to me.
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This applies better for shaman
Warrior is more connected with surviving and in a second place with attitude.
You can think of it as an archetype as well, simple and alone.
On the other hand, well , words collide : )
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I believe words collide and mean the same..
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another definition that I like comes from Castaneda
"A warrior acts as if he knows what he is doing, when in
effect he knows nothing"
My favorite definition,I think!
words collide..
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Bearlav wrote:
"A warrior acts as if he knows what he is doing, when in effect he knows nothing"
thanks for the reminder. right in time.
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… Warriors live with death at their side, and from the knowledge that death is with them they draw the courage to face anything.
(Five of the attributes of warrior are): control, discipline, forbearance, timing, and will. They pertain to the world of the warrior who is fighting to lose self-importance. The sixth element, which is perhaps the most important of all, pertains to the outside world and is called the petty tyrant. A petty tyrant is a tormentor. Someone who either holds the power of life and death over warriors or simply annoys them to distraction.
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"warriorship pretty much is like crawling through hell... whith only love to guide you one way... and death to drag you to the other!.. "
That is so well put, thanks you.
"we wont need the fake shaman to laugh at within a short while.... besides it only makes you feel uncomfortably arrogant to witness power hungry cowards.....so i cant wait for the eagles bite to end this ridiculous game! love or death.. "
Yesssss In the face of Infiity.....
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