Nagual unconcern

[Gonzo]

I found this old post among some dusty archives from a long gone member of my forum - still good stuff.

Hi All.
I thought the following passage regarding Silvio Manuel might be of interest to some in light of recent discussions about unconcern, 'enlightenment', the "I" (personal volition, desire etc.) and "right and wrong", "good and evil", and the supposed virtues of 'this' compared to 'that'.
From The Eagle's Gift p88:
"[Don Juan] had learned in his life the intent of hundreds of things. But Silvio Manuel went to the source itself. He tapped it. He didn't have to learn the intent of anything. He was one with intent. The problem was that he had no more desires because intent has no desire of it's own, so he had to rely on the Nagual for volition. [* volition - the capability of conscious choice and intention] In other words, Silvio Manuel could do anything the Nagual wanted. The Nagual directed Silvio Manuel's intent. But since the Nagual had no desires either, most of the time they didn't do anything"
This description of one who had become 'one with Intent' suggests someone who had essentially ceased to be a 'person' as we understand it. That is, 'they' no longer experienced personal choice or intention and, essentially being the Nagual, they had no real desires. They were quite inhuman. Unconcern naturally flows from such a state. Don Juan - who, according to the description above and his own reports was not "one with intent" - himself said that "nothing matters" and that Seeing naturally allowed one to understand that this was the case. Consider the following passage from "A Separate Reality":
DJ - "Certain things in your life matter to you because they're important; your acts are certainly important to you, but for me, not a single thing is important any longer, neither my acts nor the acts of any of my fellow men...Once a man learns to see he finds himself alone in the world with nothing but folly...Your acts, as well as the acts of your fellow men in general, appear to be important to you because you have learned to think they are important. We learn to think about everything, and then we train our eyes to look as we think about the things we look at. We look at ourselves already thinking that we are important. And therefore we've got to feel important! But then when a man learns to see , he realizes that he can no longer think about the things he looks at, and if he cannot think about what he looks at everything becomes unimportant. Everything is equal and therefore unimportant. We need to look with our eyes to laugh. When our eyes see , everything is so equal that nothing is funny. My laughter, as well as everything I do is real but it also is controlled folly because it is useless; it changes nothing and yet I still do it....Our lot as men is to learn. I have learned to see and I tell you that nothing really matters...A man of knowledge lives by acting, not by thinking about acting, nor by thinking about what he will think when he has finished acting. A man of knowledge chooses a path with heart and follows it; and then he looks and rejoices and laughs; and then he sees and knows. He knows that his life will be over altogether too soon; he knows that he, as well as everybody else, is not going anywhere; he knows, because he sees , that nothing is more important than anything else. In other words, a man of knowledge has no honor, no dignity, no family, no name, no country, but only life to be lived... You think about your acts, therefore you have to believe your acts are as important as you think they are, when in reality nothing of what one does is important. Nothing! ....There's no emptiness in the life of a man of knowledge, everything is filled to the brim and everything is equal. For me there is no victory, or defeat, or emptiness. Everything is filled to the brim and everything is equal and my struggle is worth my while. In order to become a man of knowledge one must be a warrior. One must strive without giving up, without a complaint, without flinching, until one sees , only to realize then that nothing matters."
Seeing into the Nagual is not the same as the direct experience of Being One with it, and yet even merely Seeing, as Don Juan did, immediately brings with it the unshakeable knowing that nothing really matters, everything is equal, nothing is important. Concepts of right and wrong, this versus that, melt away and are seen through. There is no longer a struggle between 'good and evil", that illusion is dispelled. There are no great desires or ambitions or fears. DJ's words quite clearly indicate that for one to believe and insist that things really do matter would necessarily mean that they do not See. This knowledge can perhaps be a useful guide when considering the veracity of the claims of those who say they See, or assert their spiritual advancement or spiritual authority.
Anyone who is familiar with the concept common to many 'paths' and 'religions' of non-dualistic 'enlightenment' (in which the 'person' is seen to be nonexistent and therefore without personal volition or concern) would, I believe, immediately recognize as familiar the description of the state that Silvio was said to be in and that Don Juan could at least perceive through Seeing, if not fully embody.
Malcal

[Hawkeye Crow]

Hello Gonzo,

A few observations, as this is a central issue. Sometimes, I wonder if the words confuse things.


Perhaps to be One With the Nagual is the same as Detachment in the Eastern tradition? Surely we don't imply apathy. Or indulging in humiliating other beings. The Warriors' Way being one of equality, no status seeking.


We know that as mortals, there is much that is unknown and unknowable, and that judgments must be reserved. For some, however, disengagement may be necessary. But generally, I see Controlled Folly as a manner of decision-making and action leading to perfected results. And there is more: for a sorcerer, the ability to adapt, disguise and play a role, as Julian taught don Juan, when required to become a woman. ( this is really unnerving, as I am discovering more real-life incidents of this kind, spy vs spy, undercover operations, the path with no heart!) 


I suppose this is a lifetime of doing, with many other facets. Hunting and stalking are interesting, as traditional human behaviors in an indigenous setting.


I can't claim expertise, only being one who explores.

[Gonzo]

Hawkeye Crow wroteerhaps to be One With the Nagual is the same as Detachment in the Eastern tradition? Surely we don't imply apathy. Or indulging in humiliating other beings. The Warriors' Way being one of equality, no status seeking.
I think there is a difference but I'm not sure I can explain it. Perhaps it is that as in the description of Silvio Manuel there is a complete surrender of even his will. He apparently becomes totally directed by the nagual. In the case of detachment, or even enlightenment, it seems to me the individual is still self-directed.

As to apathy, indulging in humiliating others, etc - those seem human endeavors we all engage in, and perhaps even so if enlightened or fully given over to the nagual.
We know that as mortals, there is much that is unknown and unknowable, and that judgments must be reserved. For some, however, disengagement may be necessary. But generally, I see Controlled Folly as a manner of decision-making and action leading to perfected results. And there is more: for a sorcerer, the ability to adapt, disguise and play a role, as Julian taught don Juan, when required to become a woman. ( this is really unnerving, as I am discovering more real-life incidents of this kind, spy vs spy, undercover operations, the path with no heart!) I don't see disengagement as worthwhile. Perhaps for some, however, in both Zen as well as the teachings of don Juan, there are statements to the effect that one's enlightenment must be functional in the bustling market-place as well as in the cave solo in the mountains. I not only believe in the mud, the blood, and the beer...I revel in them.
I suppose this is a lifetime of doing, with many other facets. Hunting and stalking are interesting, as traditional human behaviors in an indigenous setting.Hunting and stalking in all endeavors...not limited to the actual pursuit of game .
I can't claim expertise, only being one who explores.Heh. Expertise comes with the exploration, doesn't it?

[SelfHealedMadman]

~ 
Real renunciation means unconditioning the mind. Real renunciation means you don’t belong to any society, you don’t belong to any religion, you don’t belong to any country – you don’t BELONG, you are alone. You belong to the whole in your aloneness. But that is possible only by tremendous understanding, intelligence, awareness, not by playing this game of renunciation – renouncing one thing, creating another, then renouncing that, still creating another.  
When you are alone you are a god. When you are lonely you are just nothing, just empty, hollow, a black hole.  
That’s why you say,”But, anyhow, I suppose it is the way of total aloneness.” You don’t know what aloneness is, and you don’t know what totality is. Because if you know totality, you have known God.  Totality is what God is all about. The sum total of existence is what God is. We can drop the word”God.” Call it”totality,” that will do – and will do even better than the word”God” because”God” has been used so much by wrong people. Politicians, priests, they all talk about”God.”  
And remember –”And this makes me a little uneasy” that’s why I say you cannot suppose aloneness, because aloneness never makes anybody uneasy. It makes one so ecstatically happy that you cannot imagine, you have not even dreamed about it. A Buddha is alone, a Mahavir is alone, a Kabir is alone – and they are alone even when they are in the crowd. You cannot destroy their aloneness.  Their aloneness is a crystallized phenomenon.  
Try to understand this. You are born alone; you die alone. These two are the greatest moments in life: birth and death. You are born alone; you die alone. The greatest moments of life – the beginning and the end – are in aloneness. When you meditate you again become alone. That’s why meditation is both – a death and a birth. You die to the past and you are born to the new, to the unknown.  
There are a few things which can only be done alone. Love, prayer, life, death, aesthetic experiences, blissful moments – they all come when you are alone. When you are in love you think you are with somebody. Maybe the somebody is just reflecting your aloneness; the somebody is just a mirror in which your aloneness is reflected But the deeper you move in love, the deeper you know that even your lover cannot penetrate there. Your aloneness is absolute – and it is good that it is so; otherwise you will be a public thing.  
Then you will not have any innermost core where you can be alone. Then you can be violated. But your aloneness is absolute; nobody can violate it.  
You can kill me, but you cannot destroy my aloneness. That is my freedom. You can put me in a bondage, but you cannot put my aloneness in a bondage. Even in your jail I will be alone.  Aloneness is my intrinsic nature. It cannot be destroyed; nobody can take it away.
Author Unknown and Alone

[Eilias123]

This is why i laugh in the face of our supposed Death Defier, Slummer Dumb. I mean, if he truly was one and could see, he wouldn't have made a big stink about his posts and being concerned with me being evil.
 There are quite a number of others i have seen on this forum, supposed seers and the like. Who throw temper tantrums, yell and scream at you because most members can't stand their self importance. Read my sig again.

[Grand Speculator]

Eilias123 wrote:This is why i laugh in the face of our supposed Death Defier, Slummer Dumb. I mean, if he truly was one and could see, he wouldn't have made a big stink about his posts and being concerned with me being evil.
 There are quite a number of others i have seen on this forum, supposed seers and the like. Who throw temper tantrums, yell and scream at you because most members can't stand their self importance. Read my sig again.
Son of a **** motherfucker fuckwad pancy!

PS: Unknown and Alone is Osho, aka Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh. And I don't like him entirely.

[SelfHealedMadman]

~ 

When we can observe any situation without being affected, then that would imply a non-attachment. And that is the true meaning of renunciation. Renunciation does not mean leaving your family and the world and going to some Himalayan cave. That’s escaping. 
Many things in life are paradoxes. One can be totally devoted to someone and yet be non-attached. Now there is a difference between non-attachment and detachment. Detachment is to exclude oneself from all activities of life and just to be far away, to become reclusive. To be non-attached is to be able to partake of every activity of the mind and body and spirit and yet be above it all. Now, when ones goes into detachment, it could be a form of escape, where one does not face up to the responsibilities. 
The real Self within us is ever unfolded and encompasses everything existent, tangible and intangible, animate and inanimate. When we speak of spiritual unfoldment we are referring to removing the veils of attachment to transitory values and recognizing them for what they are worth. We are gradually going beyond the shackles that tie us down to relativity. There’s nothing wrong with being in relativity; but being tied and weighed down, that is the condition we are trying to get away from. 
Attachment is always generated by need. 

If we direct our belief and faith to mundane things, we will achieve mundane things. We will achieve transitory things which can never be fulfilling. The need will always be there, and by fulfilling one mundane need, that one mundane need will create two mundane needs and two will create four. 

The cause of all unhappiness and misery in this world is our attachment to name and form. 

What man has to strive for is that tranquillity where all the praise in the world does not elate him, and all the blame in the world does not deflate him. This tranquillity brings about a certain kind of nonattachment. 
We do not look deep enough. There is nothing in this world that is ugly. Everything is beautiful because it is created and it is a product of Divinity. Once we go beyond the surface value of a thing then we see the beauty within everything. 

In performing any action there is a certain amount of desire. Desire produces attachment, but there are different kinds of desires. Desire for gain, name, fame, and power prods one to act in a certain manner to achieve a certain goal. The other kind of desire is the desire to serve, which causes non-attachment. 

All unhappiness is produced by our worthless sense of attachment. We get attached to various aspects and facets of life which are transitory. As man unfolds spiritually, he will not only seek the true value within himself and the environment, but he will find it non-separate from himself. That is a sure sign of spiritual unfoldment. 

To be able to love without attachment is the greatest achievement a human being can attain. 

Unattachment means that you, very willfully, want to be apart. You become indifferent; like the old saying, you can have a crowd of people around you, yet you are lonely. You withdraw within yourself, not because of strength, but because of imbalance between introversion and extroversion. 

Non-attachment is something totally different, where you are part of your entire environment, where you partake of everything in your environment, where you can love, where you can become one with another. Individuality ceases entirely: there is no you and me, there is just us. That is created by non-attachment. As the Bible would say, “To be in the world and yet not of it,” is non-attachment. 

Non-attachment comes when you find unity in diversity and yet you are conscious of all the diversity around you. In spite of all the diversity which your conscious mind sees, there is that inner self within you that shines out all its glory and encompasses the entire universe in Oneness. Then you say, “Tat tvam asi,” which means, “Thou art That.” You progress still further to say, “Brahmasmi,”—”I am Brahma. I am the entire universe; nothing separates me from anything else.” And that is the state of Christhood. That is the state the man, Jesus reached when he could say, “I and my Father are One,” because the Father is omnipresent. The man Jesus reached the stage where he could become One with Omnipresence; that is what is meant by, “I and my Father are One.” 

In the state of non-attachment we face our problems. We face them squarely and try to find solutions; and if we are sincere enough the solutions are there, because there is no problem that does not have the solution inherent within it. 

We seek externally for happiness but the external happiness is temporary. It is only by finding the inner happiness that we could put some permanence into that which is temporary, because we go beyond name and form to see the essence which is eternal. 

Could you really ever possess anything? . . . especially a human being, who is an individual, thinking entity. 

You are seeking freedom within yourself. That is where freedom lies, nowhere else. We cannot rid anyone else of bondage nor create freedom for another person at any time. Bondage or freedom can only be created by oneself. When you view the world or your beloved through the aspect of bondage, you are not binding them but are binding yourself in a patterned way of thinking. 

See all attachment as freedom for you can find it to be freedom even though you are attached, just by having a special mental attitude, and a spiritual strength and fortitude. 

My love for her is important, not her. I am attached in that love for her, but in that attachment of love for her, is freedom. Because the power of Grace has given me the freedom to love. 

With acceptance comes surrender. Although we are attached, the emphasis is not to be on the attachment. The emphasis can be on unmotivated surrender . . . unselfish surrender, unselfish giving of oneself as much as possible to the beloved. 

“I” the little ego self, is not the doer. The doer is HE. When you have that idea, you become nonattached to your actions and then any action you perform will not add any samskaras to your mind. You will gradually become free of impressions which imprison you. When your actions and your thoughts become non-binding, then you enter the realms of freedom. 

GS, please provide us the honors of who the author is.

[Grand Speculator]

Nobody I'm familiar with. I'm familiar with what is being told, though.

[SelfHealedMadman]

Grand Speculator wrote:




Nobody I'm familiar with. I'm familiar with what is being told, though.
But do you like it, entirely??
Gururaj Ananda Yogi, thy author, above.

[Grand Speculator]

SelfHealedMadman wrote:Grand Speculator wrote:




Nobody I'm familiar with. I'm familiar with what is being told, though.
But do you like it, entirely??
Gururaj Ananda Yogi, thy author, above.
You wanna please me, completely? 

It's not the words, but the man. Those words are timeless. Nothing new there. The issue is who is saying what.


Let's say, for the sake of example, me or anybody else goes to this guy, or Osho, or anybody... looking for help (God forbid we ever admit we need it). What would be the answers?


Gururaj bla ble bli would give yogic practices and the textual knowledge quoted above.


Osho would say that tradition is **** and make you do the dynamic meditation and then sit around him, pointing out that you need to fall in love with him to get better.


Would that fix you up. Perhaps. If not, what then? It's *** ya in the ass.


Now... a DJM, an impeccable nagual, for instance, being a pragmatic individual, wouldn't try to GUESS that you are fucked in the way he IMAGINES, but he would SEE what is the problem to the extent of his seeing and offer a pragmatic solution, instead of a one-size-fits-all technique that for some reason doesn't work with you.


A God-man aka Siddha would ask Power what you need and deliver it. Works or not, it's your problem.


Last but not least, a true taoist would look at your intrinsic nature in order to find your path-of-least-resistance towards getting better.


Take your pick.

[SelfHealedMadman]

~
...and our magnificent GS says:  "You wanna please me, completely?"
Yet, then digresses into: 
"Osho would say that tradition is **** and make you..."  "...pointing out that you...."
"Would that fix you up. Perhaps. If not, what then? It's *** ya in the ass."
"wouldn't try to GUESS that you are fucked..."  "that for some reason doesn't work with you."
"A God-man aka Siddha would ask Power what you need and deliver it. Works or not, it's your problem."
"Last but not least, a true taoist would look at your intrinsic nature in order to find your path-of-least-resistance towards getting better.

So, GS, all talk about ME, pleases you, completely???  That was your first line.  Or, are you making a generalization to anyone? (As you started to allude to.)  If so, most writers use themselves as the example, as opposed to the 'yous' and 'yours.'  Please be careful with this, you'll hurt my fragile ego. 
Ok, next up, let's look at all these assumptions.
Now, in your defense, you do state:  "Let's say, for the sake of example..."
Examples based on what?  Your opinions?  Your experiences?  Reading of books and your perceptions of what the teaching style is? 
What I see described in your words are your opinions.  If not, please provide the words to describe your experiences with said individuals.  Or, if you are a Yogi, Nagual, Sidda, etc., etc., please provide more context for the descriptions.  I would love to read about it!  
 
"Gururaj bla ble bli would give..."  He would?  ...and you've asked him directly on this exact issue of, again, what pleases you, completely?
"Osho would say that..."  He would?  How do you know in regards to this issue?  Or, are you attempting to just assume that his words in regards to something similiar relate to your opinions?
"Now... a DJM..."  Well, same as above.  Your own personal history reflecting your interpretation of what DJM may or may not do.  Perhaps he'll just wink at me and tell me to go and get stuffed?  Perhaps we'll just sit around talking about the weather.  Who knows?
"A God-man aka Siddha would ask...."  He would?  Once again, a lot of assumptions here, or as you say, perhaps examples, of your perception of what 'another' may or may not say.  
 
"Last but not least, a true taoist would look at your intrinsic nature..."  He would?  What if I shielded him from my 'intrinsic nature' with my super-duper special force field shield?  What then, Mr. smarty pants?? 
Now GS, we all know you've the brain and the book smarts of all the gooroos past, present and future, combined.  That's a given.  Yet, your comments just beg the question, if you've ever had any experience with anything or anyone mentioned (by you, above,) why would you even begin to speculate on what they would say in any given situation?  You've channeled all above and what you've written are their exact words?  You snuck into the the second, third, etc., etc., attentions and asked them?  (All within the hour it took you to reply, btw.)  If so, I bow at your feet, will perform 10,000 hail marys, will suicide bomb all those unworthy, and become your humble and faithful student. 
To bring this around full circle to you initial comments of, "You wanna please me, completely?" it seems then your next line is true.  "It's not the words, but the man."  What pleases you completely is conjouring up scenerios of 'da' man' and inserting your mental images into your own interpretation of their teachings.  Correct?  If not, please correct me. 
SHM
P.S. - You wrote:  "The issue is who is saying what".
Is it?  Didn't Juanito say that he's just a conduit?  Curtis, Chinn, Tsuma and Bannai Sensei's all tell me they're just the messenger.  As with Jed McKenna, "This isn't about me."
Now certainly a good teacher is important.  We each have our own little gigs and some work better than others.  (What I mean by that is that with one teacher we're more apt to stick with 'the teaching' than with another.) 
"It's not the words, but the man".
It is one, not two.  The proper conduit (man) will provide the words to us if it's meant to be.
Now if I'm all wet here, please straighten me out.  I'm always up for a good discussion. 
SHM the second
P.S.S. - Hey, how 'bout a discussion between you and I?  No comments from Naguals or Yogis or Siddas or Divas or Devas or, or, or....  It just makes my head spin, as you know all too well that I'm quite ignorant.  I'm also lazy, btw, and quickly grow weary of having to copy and paste.  I know, I know, I'm the Google gooroo, the Cut and Paste Professor, but I'm getting old.  Can you take it easy on this old man and just have a discussion with me?
Thanks!
SHM the third

[Grand Speculator]

Thank you.



Actually, it's all a sham... you see, I bought the "Smartass Wise-sounding words to look interesting to the spiritual dilletantes" book on Amazon years ago.



After reading it completely, any casual reader sounds like a fucking black hole in terms of deepness.



So there ya go.

[SelfHealedMadman]

~
"Thank you".
You're welcome.
"Actually, it's all a sham..."
Is it?  Can you explain this?
If it's all a sham, why are you recapping or do-ing or not-doing anything else?
I'll say it's not a sham, but a mindfuck.  As Juanito or someone said, a summersault of thought into the inconceivable, or some such. 
"you see, I bought the "Smartass Wise-sounding words to look interesting to the spiritual dilletantes" book on Amazon years ago".
Now you're just messin' with me!
"After reading it completely, any casual reader sounds like a fucking black hole in terms of deepness".
Well yea, but not you.  You know a great deal.  Please share with us!
SHM

[Grand Speculator]

SelfHealedMadman wrote:
I'll say it's not a sham, but a mindfuck.  As Juanito or someone said, a summersault of thought into the inconceivable, or some such. 
I'm the sham, the path of the Spirit is very much real. Now... don't ask me what real is... coz I have no fucking clue!!    

PS: I do all those doing and not-doings and un-doings and good-doings and baaaaad-doings for the same reason everybody does everything... to get laid!

[SelfHealedMadman]

Grand Speculator wrote:
SelfHealedMadman wrote:

I'll say it's not a sham, but a mindfuck.  As Juanito or someone said, a summersault of thought into the inconceivable, or some such. 

 

PS: I do all those doing and not-doings and un-doings and good-doings and baaaaad-doings for the same reason everybody does everything... to get laid! 
Yea, whatever, Carlos....Oh, I mean GS!

[Grand Speculator]

DON JUAAAAN! DON JUAN!!!! DOON JUAAAAANN!!! AYUDAME!!!! DOÑA SOLEDAD ME QUIERE ROMPER EL CULOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

[SelfHealedMadman]

~
Well, since my first client cancelled I got to thinking (look out!) and reading more, here.
Someone has a tag on their profile which reads:  "A nagual never lets anyone know that he is in charge. A nagual comes and goes without leaving a trace. That freedom is what makes him a nagual."-----Don Juan
Thus my question:
Why would anyone who's a Nagual tell anyone else they are a Nagual?
Now, from what I can recall from Castaneda's books, it was revealed to the new Nagual to form the teacher/apprentice relationship and reveal The Rule that pertained to him/her.  From the witches books, it was revealed to denote the leader of the warriors party.  Keep in mind that all of the above were already 'selected' to form a new warrior's party from what I recall, prior to any Nagualicious secrets being revealed. 
So, let me ask again, a bit more specifically:  Why would anyone who's a Nagual tell an entire discussion group/board they are a Nagual?  Is the discussion board kind of like a barrel, all those who view or participate are the fish in the barrel, all rounded up for choosing the most appropriate candidate for......a new warriors party?
Once again:  "A nagual never lets anyone know that he is in charge".  How does this work with stating one is a Nagual on a public discussion forum?  I've seen several state they are Naguals.  That's fine, but how does it jibe with this quote?  Doesn't stating one is a Nagual put you right up there in front of everyone, which conflicts with 'never letting anyone know'?
"A nagual comes and goes without leaving a trace".  Ok.  Can a Nagual not leave a trace once everyone knows you're a Nagual?
"That freedom is what makes him a nagual".  Can you see how each of these three sentences build on the prior one?  So, if the first two sentences are invalid, here, I'm led to the conclusion that we have no free Naguals here??  But wait, Juanito says, "that freedom is what makes him a nagual!"  Well ****, there's no Naguals here???  Help!   
I'm also under the impression that the Nagual has a cleaner link, more in touch with the Spirit.  Would the Spirit ever direct a Nagual to tell an entire discussion group he's a Nagual?  If so, what would be the purpose?  As there are Naguals here, can you tell me what your purpose was?
Thanks for your time!
SHM

[Grand Speculator]

Nagual, Nagual, ¿Donde estas tu?
Nagual, Nagual, ¿Que sera de mi?
Nagual, Nagual, ayúdame, ¿Si?


El nagual, el nagual, te saca del pedo.
El nagual, el nagual, te patea los huevos.


Nagual, Nagual, quiero putas y oro.
Nagual, Nagual, quiero ser popular.
Nagual, Nagual, ¡ Ayúdame a cambiar!


El nagual, el nagual, te saca del pedo.
El nagual, el nagual, te patea los huevos.


Nagual, Nagual, quiero conocimiento.
Nagual, Nagual, quiero ver energía.
Nagual, Nagual, ¡Quiero mucha alegría!


El nagual, el nagual, te saca del pedo.
El nagual, el nagual, te patea los huevos.


Nagual, Nagual, me das mucho miedo.
Nagual, Nagual, tenme piedad.
Nagual, Nagual, ¡Arreglame ya!


El nagual, el nagual, te saca del pedo.
El nagual, el nagual, te patea los huevos.


El nagual, el nagual, te saca del pedo.
El nagual, el nagual, te patea los huevos.


(****, I should have been a musician... not to late...)

[Guest]

nagualicious.

it even sounds good.

[Lunoor]

Google translates:
"The nagual, the nagual, you out of a fart.
The nagual, the nagual kick your eggs."

[Affinity]

Age of Not Believing
When you rush around in hopeless circles
Searching ev'rywhere for something true
You're a t the age of not believing
When all the "make believe" is through
When you set aside your childhood heroes
And your dreams are lost up on a shelf
You're a t the age of not believing
And worst of all you doubt yourself
You're a castaway where no one hears you
On a barren isle in a lonely sea
Where did all the happy endings go?
Where can all the good times be?
You must face the age of not believing
Doubting ev'rything you ever knew
Until at last you start believing
There's something wonderful...
Truly wonderful in you

[Hawkeye Crow]

With an exhausted mind I have strained to say what needs to be said. The truth is that others have said it before, and with better words. Here are some of those words, sung to a people, if they could only hear:

              IN HELD TWAS I


Words by


Keith Reid
Music by Procol Harum


 


In the darkness of the
night, only occasionally relieved by glimpses of Nirvana as seen through other
people's windows, wallowing in a morass of self-despair made only more painful
by the knowledge that all I am is of my own making ...


 


When everything around me,
even the kitchen ceiling, has collapsed and crumbled without warning. And I am
left, standing alive and well, looking up and wondering why and wherefore.


 


At a time like this, which
exists maybe only for me, but is nonetheless real, if I can communicate, and in
the telling and the bearing of my soul anything is gained, even though the
words which I use are pretentious and make you cringe with embarrassment, let
me remind you of the pilgrim who asked for an audience with the Dalai Lama.


 


He was told he must first
spend five years in contemplation. After the five years, he was ushered into
the Dalai Lama's presence, who said, 'Well, my son, what do you wish to know?'
So the pilgrim said, 'I wish to know the meaning of life, father.'


 


And the Dalai Lama smiled
and said, 'Well my son, life is like a beanstalk, isn't it?'


 


Held close by that which
some despise


which some call fake, and
others lies


And somewhat small


for one so tall


a doubting Thomas who
would be?


It's written plain for all
to see


for one who I am with no
more


it's hard at times, it's
awful raw


 


They say that Jesus healed
the sick and helped the poor


and those unsure


believed his eyes


- a strange disguise


Still write it down, it
might be read


nothing's better left
unsaid


only sometimes, still no
doubt


it's hard to see, it all
works out


 


'Twas tea-time at the circus:
King Jimi, he was there 

Through hoops he skipped, high wires he tripped, and all the while the glare 

of the aching, baking spotlight beat down upon his cloak 

and though the crowd clapped furiously they could not see the joke


'Twas tea-time at the circus,
though some might not agree 

as jugglers danced, and horses pranced and clowns clowned endlessly 

But trunk to tail the elephants
quite silent, never spoke 

and though the crowd clapped desperately they could not see the joke


 


In the autumn of my madness when my hair is turning grey 

for the milk has finally curdled and I've nothing left to say 

When all my thoughts are spoken (save my last departing birds) 

bring all my friends unto me and I'll strangle them with words


In the autumn of my madness which in coming won't be long 

for the nights are now much darker and the daylight's not so strong 

and the things which I believed in are no longer quite enough 

for the knowing is much harder and the going's getting rough


 


I know if I'd been wiser this would never have occurred 

but I wallowed in my blindness so it's plain that I deserve 

for the sin of self-indulgence when the truth was writ quite clear 

I must spend my life amongst the dead who spend their lives in fear 

of a death that they're not sure of, of a life they can't control 

It's all so simple really if you just look to your soul


Some say that I'm a wise man, some think that I'm a fool 

It doesn't matter either way: I'll be a wise man's fool 

For the lesson lies in learning and by teaching I'll be taught 

for there's nothing hidden anywhere, it's all there to be sought 

And so if you know anything look closely at the time 

at others who remain untrue and don't commit that crime
                            PILGRIMS PROGRESS



Words by


Keith Reid


 


I sat me down to write a
simple story


which maybe in the end
became a song


In trying to find the
words which might begin it


I found these were the
thoughts I brought along


 


At first I took my weight
to be an anchor


and gathered up my fears
to guide me round


but then I clearly saw my
own delusion


and found my struggles
further bogged me down


 


In starting out I thought
to go exploring


and set my foot upon the
nearest road


In vain I looked to find
the promised turning


but only saw how far I was
from home


 


In searching I forsook the
paths of learning


and sought instead to find
some pirate's gold


In fighting I did hurt
those dearest to me


and still no hidden truths
could I unfold


 


I sat me down to write a
simple story


which maybe in the end
became a song


The words have all been
writ by one before me


We're taking turns in
trying to pass them on


Oh, we're taking turns in
trying to pass them on


This contains the same purpose as the Warriors Way, in my opinion.

What Is Your Intent?


posted by Deepak Chopra
Aug 31, 2009 5:04 am


Intent is a seed in consciousness, or spirit. If you pay attention to it,
it has within it the means for its own fulfillment.


We can restore the power of intent through a return to the true self, or
self-actualization. People who attain self-actualization reestablish their
connectedness to the non-local mind. They have no desire to manipulate and
control others. They are independent of criticism and also of flattery. They
feel beneath no one, but they also feel superior to no one. They are in touch
with the internal reference point that is their soul, and not their ego.


Anxiety is no longer an issue, because anxiety comes from the ego’s need
to protect itself. And that anxiety is what interferes with the spontaneity of
intent. Intent is the mechanics through which spirit transforms itself into material
reality.


Mature spirituality requires sobriety of awareness. If you are sober, you
are responsive to feedback but at the same time immune to criticism and
flattery. You learn to let go and you do not worry about the result. You have
confidence in the outcome, and you start to see the synchronicity that is
always organized around you.


Intention provides opportunities that you have to be alert to. Good luck
is opportunity and preparedness coming together. Intention will provide you
opportunities, but you still need to act when the opportunity is provided.


Whenever you take action, have the attitude that you are not performing
the action. Have the attitude that your actions are really the actions of
nonlocal intelligence, the organizing universal spirit. You will begin to
notice a great diminution of anxiety. You will also be less attached to the
result.


Adapted from The Spontaneous Fulfillment of Desire, by Deepak Chopra
(Three Rivers Press).

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