Ap

[Guest]

On the front of the human body there can be seen 32 ap 12 major ap and 20 minor like the following:




- in the genital area where the buddhist see the mulhadara chakra diameter of about 2 cm- sexual energy




- two about one cm below the ombilical button to 2 cm above the ombilic - kidney energy




- one about to cm up the ombilical button 4 cm diam - solar plexux energy




- one at about the half of the last rib right 2 cm diam - gold bladder energy related to dreaming abilities




- one on the left in the space between the last rib on the half of it 1 cm diam - stomach energy related to stalking abilities




- one in the 5th inter rib space where the left ventricle is felt beating 2 cm diam - heart energy related to compassion abilities




- two on the same line in the 3rd inter rib space 1 cm diam - lung energy related to freedom seekers




- one in the apple of adam on man more proeminent in man 2 cm diam - larynx energy related to the ability to create




- one in between the eyebrows 0.4 cm diam - third eye energy related to seeing like naguals do




-one on top of the head where the great softenss used to be as children 2 cm diam - related to the ability to understand the creators commands.

[Guest]

One lil comment on my previous post the ap point for sexual energy is two fingers above the pubic symphysis horizonatly.




There are 20 minor ap on the human body starting from down up:




- right above the foot between the two tendons connecting it two one on each leg diam of 0.2 cm in diam left - energy of movement, right energy of stability,




- on the two sides of the patella bone four where you feel the edges two lil sharp ends each with 0.12 cm in diam - energy of verticality,




- two on each forearm right above the hand on a line right under the bone seable simetrical four in total 0.12 cm in diam - energy of flexibility,




- two on each arm on the left and right of the biceps tendon which can be felt when you lift the hand four in total 0.2 diam each one finger horizontaly curved
above the elbow on a stretched arm - energy of lifting,




- two on each shoulder between the collar bone and the humerus bone of the arm 0.2 cm diam - shoulder energy,




- two right above the collar bones intersection with the neck line makes a lil curved triangulum 0.08 cm diam - energy of happiness,




-two right above each ear where the cartilage ends nad scalp begins 0.8cm diam - energy of hearing like naguals do their own naguals command.

[Guest]

There are 20 ap on a humans back 8 major ap and 12 minor i will describe them as follows:




- tail bones end area one with diam of 3 cm - one can see the creator, god, eagle,




- the union between the sacral bone and the spine one with 4 cm diam - one can see past lives,




- one the waist left and right where is the smallest diameter in mesuring two in total each with 2 cm diam - one might see who their interlocutor is gender
left woman and right man, it moves from the past life memories one if you feel a twich or a burn on the right your pm pal let's say so is a man,




- right below the ribcage two 3 cm diam - kidney energy




- two on the shoulder blades making an angle of 45 degrees between them lower on the right where the end of the shoulder blade is called tonal connected to
everyday life conciousness, the other one higher making a 45 degrees angle with the tonal called the nagual the biggest of all in the human body 6 cm diam both
- everyday conciousness and nagual conciousness,




- one right on the spine two horizontal fingers below the firt thoracic vertebrae that can be felt like a lil bumpy vertebrae more proeminent then the neck
ones 3 cm diam - connected to ones inorganic totem or guardian,




- one on the spine where the head begins with the head straight up in the middle on the end of the spine 3 cm diam - connected to everywhere nagual
conciousness kinda we are alike you and me nagual being both yet different bodys different experiences,




- two simetrical where two bone proeminencies can be felt, right above the ears but back on the skull like two little horns one the back one left and one
right 2 cm diam - connected with the animal totem the one on the left and to the plant totem the one on the right.




One addition to my previous posts and this one: if one has a bird totem not animal or plant it connects to where the buddhist consider the crown chakra or god
command conciousness that is why Don Juan explained that it looks like a strange vortex either connects to the creator when awake or to a bird totem while
dreaming.




Looks like a double way wirlpool the left part spining clockwise the right part anticlockwise.

[Guest]

The minor 8 ap on the human body's back are like this:




- right above the talus or calcanean bone where the tendon begins one on each leg 0.12 cm diam - energy of memories,




- in the middle of the gap between the two femural biceps tendons in the rhombic space one on each leg 0.08 cm diam - energy of human experiences,




- above the hand next to a proeminent tendon above the palm two one on each joint 0.12 cm diam - energy of despair combat skills,




- two on the elbow bone on the edge of the bone on each arm 0.08 cm diam - energy of writing skills.




Excuse my mistake, please 8 minor aps and 12 major ones if you can and try and read this with an opened mind.

[Guest]

There are another two big ones one on the same line with the tonal ap only smaller on the spine about 3 cm diam connected with the dream double but one cannot
acces it until does not have a fully formed dreaming body.




And the last one on the occiput bone on a little bone peak the one that gives one conciousness of your own mortality 3 cm diam this one too, but one cannot
acces it before trying clinical death and all the rest of 53 ap.




I hope you like my little description any comment is welcome, yet not from a apprentice warrior that does not even know what nagual or totem is.




Totem in native americans culture is a related spirit from another kingdom then human: plants, animals, inorganics that can help you or decieve you depending
on which of them resemble you as personality and inner strenght.

[heluka]

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[Guest]

I looked at the site heluka but it did not impress me, after Castaneda left many such sites appeared. Today there are more then ever not all of them with real
naguals and real nagualism knowledge.

[dreamgirl]

Hey Persyd,




Thanks for this post, this is fascinating and just the information I have been looking for lately. I have studied the Buddhist systems and other esoteric
chakra systems and have always thought there was a bit more that I could feel. What I want to ask you is the energetic point that is stomach energy/stalking
energy, I have a on again off again pain in this area, for decades now, in this area. I really have come to the conclusion that it is blocked energetic point
that gets blocked by a nervous type of constriction that I am doing unconsciously. I have recently come to know that I am a stalker and not a dreamer as I
once thought. What would you recommend that I do to about clearing up this area? Also, where are you getting your information, is it from seeing?




Thanks again,




Dreamgirl

[Guest]

Hello Dreamgirl, my information comes from seeing i was not even aware that i have. Your stomach pain may come from things you hide from yourself not
consciously. As for you being a stalker well we all have different types of abilities some are better stalkers some are better dreamers seek inside of you to
find out to which type you belong. I am a stalker myself some told me some said no dreamer cause i have the ability to track inorganic dream scouts, yet the
way i act awake or in dreaming makes me sure i am a stalker. A dreamer is someone that has the ability to access absolutely every dreamworld with minimal or
none help whatsoever and also as learning progresses track human or inorganic scouts , them morph into whatever they fell like it and appear in anyone's
dream. The stalkers first find their weaknesses awake or in dreaming then stalk them until they loose them then of course depending on the personality prey on
everyone else's weaknesses first see them then hit the others.

[ARNWAY]

I agree that certain parts of your body hold the key to the AP and fortunately I have done so myself and since then I have not felt the need of dependence of
anyone to give me knowledge because when you change your "Assemblage Point" you can reach the all knowing heightened awareness that one can attain.




Unfortunately people are talking from there anus or ball sack and think that they have reached their full potential.

[dreamgirl]

ARE YOU SERIOUSLY ATTACKING ME FOR ASKING A F******* QUESTION?

[Guest]

Me?Attack you dreamgirl? Sure as hell no why are you so jumpy i told you what i saw related to your issue. If i would stalk you you'd know not ask if i do
so.

[dreamgirl]

Persyd, I was talking to Arnway, did you not see his attacking post. Sorry if you got the wrong idea.

[dreamgirl]

Arnway, just to be clear here, I was thinking that your last post on this thread was directed at me for depending on another to help me with this ap problem of
mine. Dreamgirl

[Guest]

Dreamgirl, he does this with everyone man or woman so don't worry and don't take it personally. The warrior you are cannot be contested by anyone but
yourself never reveal weakness to anyone. If you feel a personal attack you react he just stalked you a little bit, to show you that you are no stalker. A
stalker guards up as soon as someone tries to stalk them, never curses never gets angry stalk back cold as ice my girl, do not show weakness to no one cause it
may bite you back Arrano's point here.




Nice demo Arrano, this was stalking One on One everyone do not take it personally, with me as DA PEACEMAKER.

[ARNWAY]

I'm sorry if my comment was taken as a literal statement because It was only a joke and was not directed at you.




I was talking about other "drive-by" members that claim they know it all when actually they are talking out of there ass when it comes to the
mysteries of awareness.




I sometimes talk from my "ball sack" when getting aggressive when I have people talking out of there anus. LOL




I'm really referring to the P.P. members that think they know everything by retrieving there energy from there ****.

[dreamgirl]

Sorry I took it all so personally, I am actually finding it quite amusing now that I think of how well you pushed my buttons! Much work to do......Dreamgirl

[ARNWAY]

I can see how you have took it personal because it was on the private forum and what I mentioned should have been on the public part of this website and has
nothing to do with the integrity of what you and Persyd were talking about of your AP thread because this thread deserves another kudo.

[dreamgirl]

dreamgirl wrote:

[dreamgirl]

[crowmaginus]

alright. im new to this section and much thanks to lonewolf for letting me in. i trust those that trust me implicitly.


was last night just reading about the ap, in fire from within. juan calls it an 'agent' in each of us, that selects internal and external emanations
for emphasis. the power of selection is another place referred to as will. so is the ap will itself? this discovery should belong only to the new seers if so,
the old ones were only interested in what will can do, not will itself. many times ive seen the ap, but it seems too distorted for the description to match,
'a tennis ball size'. one thing is for certain, it's a much brighter spot that is within the egg or ball as the shape may be, and it makes
selections.


the fluidity of it makes it hard to pin down. is it the formless eye? everytime i see it, i doubt it the next time i look for it. like ive never seen it
before. that makes sense i guess, each position is a new world?


also how is this useful, besides the power to select?

[dreamgirl]

Hey Crowmaginus, I looked at my copy of The Fire From Within and mine does not refer to the word "agent" in it. What language are you reading it in? I personally do not think of the AP as will, I think will is the mover of the AP. Wish I could be of more help with your question.

Dreamgirl

[Nagual LoneWolf]

The ap/assemblage point is two things, a point of perceiving and a place where the point IS perceiving.

[Guest]

I dunno if we speck the same language Wolf. A point where "the double peeks out" and a new way of perceiving the world. Tell me if we do speak the
same thing on this one. This is how I see it, i try to express something from silent knowledge in words.

[Nagual LoneWolf]

We speak the same language whenever we speak Persyd..