Ap

[crowmaginus]

i like what persyd calls it, the double poking out, thats how i see it too.


will not as in intent but will as awareness. if intent is the force throughout everything there is, then what about what isn't?




There is a force that is present throughout everything there is. It is called will , the will of the Indescribable Force 's emanations, or intent. What
I'm asking is what do we have that is outside of that?




Here's your answer in English dreamgirl. you can look it up on google or in the book... somewhere:


I'll briefly outline the truths about awareness which I have discussed. 1) There is no objective world, but only a universe of energy fields which seers
call the Indescribable Force 's emanations. 2) Human beings are made of the Indescribable Force 's emanations and are in essence bubbles of luminescent
energy; each of us is wrapped in a cocoon that encloses a small portion of these emanations. 3) Awareness is achieved by the constant pressure that the
emanations outside our cocoon, which are called emanations at large, exert on those inside our cocoon. 4) Awareness gives rise to perception, which happens
when the emanations inside our cocoons align themselves with the corresponding emanations at large.


The next truth is that perception takes place because there is in each of us an agent called the assemblage point that selects internal and external emanations
for alignment. The particular alignment that we perceive as the world is the product of the specific spot where our assemblage point is located on our cocoon.


In order to corroborate the truths about awareness, you need energy. Dealing with petty tyrants helps seers accomplish a sophisticated maneuver: that maneuver
is to move their assemblage points.

[crowmaginus]

no but you are right that was my question and you answered it. so will. this will of selection is shared?

[crowmaginus]

will - the personalized force that keeps our aps. fixed


changes into intent, the force eternally present in everything - i believe this is the process of death


iphone has an ap for that.

[bluedreamer]

Hey crowmaginus, thanks for the link to a new to me translation of the Tao te Ching.

[Nagual LoneWolf]

Crowmaginus..is one that is welcomed to this forum. I see an alignment with power.

[Blue totem]

Hi Persyd




Thanks for your description of the different AP's.




I dont control my seeing very well, its sporadic and unfrequent, so I rely on specialized books to help me find out what seers see when looking at the human
body. If you have suggestions for me, feel free to recommend a book.




Also, have you thought of illustrating what you see? I think if I was a seer, I would definitly do so.




Bye


Jo

[crowmaginus]

anytime bluedreamer. the tao embodies contradictions. good trance stuff, and good to read more than once. also, thank you nagual - alignment is the secret
passageway of the earth's boost. and man it's been a boost since joining this forum. the oldest imprints cannot sustain it anymore. thank intent.

[crowmaginus]

who still uses ap?

[Nagual LoneWolf]

Crowmangnus..I am glad you have been feeling a boost,we can energize each other and make connections that bind the world to us. The movement of the ap can be
one that is minute and eyeopening. Live life like this. Move your ap,,stay fluid, feel if you hear, hear if you see, see if you feel.

[crowmaginus]

hey i was reading on some ap stuff. right now some people are doing FI ****. but yeah i appreciate all that. so busy with the petty tyrants sometimes i forget
what dreaming is all about. i'm pretty certain that you came to me in dreaming though


yeah and staying fluid is difficult at times when it is difficult. if you catch my meaning. but this is a pointless concern. filled with paranoia.


if i saw you it mustve been in a dark dream. these have been dispersed recently by working with the fifth gate. if theres anything we can do to achieve better
dream results we should. build a world for these on the forum? anyways. guess without social constructs folly is all for fun! we both see. so thats cool.


i'm thinking about posting some ap stuff from the art of dreaming.

[crowmaginus]

f it. heres a link


http://www.prismagems.com/castaneda/donjuan9.html


I'm sure many here have seen this collection. some kind soul took only the non-castaneda portions of his books, leaving a direct instruction to ourselves
(via castenda of course)


Sorcery is the act of embodying some specialized theoretical and practical premises about the nature and role of perception in molding the universe around us.




Our world is only one in a cluster of consecutive worlds, arranged like the layers of an onion. Even though we have been energetically conditioned to perceive
solely our world, we still have the capability of entering into those other realms, which are as real, unique, absolute, and engulfing as our own world is.


For us to perceive those other realms, not only do we have to covet them but we need to have sufficient energy to seize them. Their existence is constant and
independent of our awareness, but their inaccessibility is entirely a consequence of our energetic conditioning. In other words, simply and solely because of
that conditioning, we are compelled to assume that the world of daily life is the one and only possible world.


Believing that our energetic conditioning is correctable, sorcerers of ancient times developed a set of practices designed to recondition our energetic
capabilities to perceive. They called this set of practices the art of dreaming . It's the gateway to infinity.


Through dreaming we can perceive other worlds, which we can certainly describe, but we can't describe what makes us perceive them. Yet we can feel how
dreaming opens up those other realms. Dreaming seems to be a sensation--a process in our bodies, an awareness in our minds.


Dreaming instruction is divided into two parts. One is about dreaming procedures, the other about the purely abstract explanations of these procedures: an
interplay between enticing one's intellectual curiosity with the abstract principles of dreaming and guiding one to seek an outlet in its practices.

[Nagual LoneWolf]

I was dreaming the other night that I was two places at once. I could change perceptions by moving my head. One perception was one where I was with you and
another man I know. We walked into a town and were in a shop where there were several antique firearms for sale. The other perception was the ravenfield. I
could see you and another young man with black hair were walking over the hill. You were waving with one hand. I looked back into the other perception and you
were gone.

[crowmaginus]

who me? lol thats pretty cool. yeah ive been in two places at once a lot lately. ill take it to mean that things are going well in dreaming for each of us. and
that i'm like dead or something utterly careless.


need some antique firearms huh?

[Eilias123]

Interesting Nagual. I have also been having dreams where i have like a 1st and 2nd attention in dreams. Being able to shift perspectives.

[Nagual LoneWolf]

The dream with your friend Nomad and the wolf and ravens now makes sense from reading my above post. I now see the connection Eilias.

[crowmaginus]

hey wolf. thinking about that black haired guy. could it be you? also, how were the three of us oriented in relation to each other and the surroundings?

[Nagual LoneWolf]

The black hair guy me? No...He was Nomad a dreaming friend of Eilias I suspect. I was above and you were on the ravenfield.

[crowmaginus]

cool name nomad.

[crowmaginus]

right or left?

[Eilias123]

Crow, Shared dreaming is never always specific. Everyone percieves differently. My dreams with nomad, I am always percieving the very basics of the events. His
perceptions are always greatly exaggerated.




For example, from nomads perspective he was on the moon in a dream like biodome. From lonewolfs' perspective, it was at ravenfields. nonetheless both
dreamed of us three being there.

[Guest]

Blue totem, I thought what book could help you on your path i don't recall the name but sure know most likely translation would be "steps of
initiation" by Rudolph Steiner i am not sure about the name, i read in in romanian quite a while ago. Illustrations i am sure i can point what i see
on a living human but don't ask me to draw, i cannot do that i was awful in that field i am the opposite of painting/drawing talent. If i can find someone
to do that in my place i will send them to Wolf, and he will pass them on unfortunately i would confuse many even more if i do that myself.

[crowmaginus]

ah thank you elias. that clarifies things and eases my mind.


remember in the art of dreaming i think it was, where one of the naguals had like their polar opposite? another nagual that would take them in new directions.
this would be nice.

[Eilias123]

I'm not sure i remember crow. It does remind me of something from the eagles gift? facing a new direction. idk

[another spirit]

yeah i remember that. when i do it the old one gets tangled up. still a good method though

[Guest]