A question on Materialisation and another one on the Eagle

[Syn27]

Hi there folks,

I heard that some humans whatever you might call them (sorcerers, yogis) have the ability to be in their state of calm and at the same time being somewhere else in a different place,
they materialize there (in german it's called Bilokation)
Now I wonder if people who consciousky don't have this ability can materialize also somewhere else being in sleep or doing their normal things not being aware of that nor remembering it,
may be, just people tell them, they have seen them there and there at some time.
Is that possible due to what I think, that our soul is always one step in front of us and is therefore knowing much more about life and universe than it's temporary lifeform?

then i have another question,
is THAT Eagle keeper of all life not just on planet earth?
and what do other religions say except of that God thingy going on?

thanks for your support folks!

WAKING LIFE...............

[Nagual LoneWolf]

Your first sentence refers to the double.
Second is yes they can.
The oversoul or the totality of id is what you refer to...
this can be done by those who have the third attention.
The eagle can be said to be the keeper of awareness for our world and that is as far as I know.

[Syn27]

hi wolf

what do you mean with double?
double attention?
do you mean that people without being aware materialize somewhere else?
"The oversoul or the totality of id is what you refer to...
this can be done by those who have the third attention."
what does one (or me?) refer to?
i thought that in the third attention you are not being and being in one,
so to materialize you need to get back to first or second dimension,
because in third you are just in entire nothingness,
?
i am sorry that i couldnt understand all what you replied,
i hope you help me again

bye

[seeitall]

hi syn,
what you can read in CC books and other stuff is this:
when you're born, there is your body you know now,
but there is also your energy body (your double), which is
usualy scared away by the flyer and is somewhere in the second
attention or i duno know where. so as a matter of fact, you're
bilocated all the time, but throught the discipline you
can move energy body more close to you and make it appear
as the perfect replica of physical body here in the first attention.

[Nagual LoneWolf]

Hello again..excuse the wait as I have been away.
The double is another part of you that has its own agenda and can be in a separate place from your body without you being aware of it.
In the third attention you are aware of being in two places at once. This is a sought after intent and shift of the assemblage point by those who practice such sorcery for lack of a better word even though I like the term myself.
Double attention could be used to describe your double and
your twin attentions.
Unless you can achieve the third attention state or can switch back and forth, there is that which is being unaware.
This doesn't happen alot in daily life though and there are alot of other individual factors.
The third attention state is the totality of spirit.
When death of body occurs the double and the spirit combine and face the unknown as one. Lone Wolf

[Syn27]

"When death of body occurs the double and the spirit combine and face the unknown as one"
I heard that the Eagle eats the consciousness. So what is left of the double and the spirit body ?

[Nagual LoneWolf]

The eagle or creating spirit that gave us awareness has been seen by seers and myself to be "taking in" or "eating" if you like, the awarenesses of all living things upon their death of body. This however is all that we can "see". Once taken in or absorbed by the giant mass (which looks like a eagle when reflected by the light behind it), it is NOT known what happens next. It is felt that this entity feeds on the awareness of the spirit but it is not known what happens after that. It very well could mean that we go on from there into the light area that the eagle is in front of. To me the eagle is the guard to another realm where we can go to next.

[Guest]

Greetings Wolflands !
Now I don't know if we are talking about the same thing here ...... because I do experience these kinds of shifts when I am in two places at once .... when I am actually "there", but physically I am here at the same time.
Most often this has happened, when say a friend has been seriously ill, (though in physical reality I have not known about it till after) ... but at the time it has happened I have been aware that I have shifted "there", been aware of being by my friend's bedside, holding vigil, telling my friend just to gather energy etc. etc. whilst I'm walking about, washing dishes, talking to a postman ..... going about my daily business .....here.
In these instances there is a feeling as though my right hemisphere had gone asleep and was astral projecting in astral dimension whilst my left hemisphere is in waking reality and engaged in this ... physical dimension.
The feeling is also as though being under hypnosis, you are aware of where you are in physical reality, aware of talking to the hypnotist, whilst your attention is focused on another scene in which you also are an active participant.
The same awareness of being present in two separate dimensions has also happened on a few occasions when I have been engaged in communicating with the departed ......
Is this awareness of being in two places at the same time like this .....*the third attention* ....?
If it is .... it is just pure awareness energy though .... There is no me, "I" in it ..... The 2 bodies (the astral and the physical) thus seem to be mere dimensional projections of this third point of awareness .... These dimensional projections having a sense of me, I, because they are engaged in relative situations ...
Artnwere

[Nagual LoneWolf]

Welcome to Separate Reality Artnwere. Your description does fit that of the third attention. Thank you for such a delightful post!

[Guest]

Thank you Nagual Lone Wolf for the reply, and also for your kind & gentle welcoming words.

[Syn27]

Hi and welcome I say to you Artnwere as well.

your astral travelling sounds interesting

[Nagual LoneWolf]

Warriors that follow the warriors way find that a wolf was walking little before them in wolflands. Some pass as the wolf sleeps. The right nod is to the left side.

[SSilhouette]

Ahem, yes. The Double can be projected visibly and even interacted with at a distant location from the body.
The thing that I'm still in disbelief about is that the double can be projected and then actually suck the physicality of the person along with it, when done by expert sorcerers. But then again, I was in disbelief in the double itself until it happened to me, multiple times.
There are scores of accounts of "knowing" what is happening at a distance. Many mothers give accounts of 'knowing' when a child is hurt many miles away..the exact second and sometimes even the details of what happened. How can they know this? The Double explains it. When a trauma happens it is almost the same as grooming the double in dreaming. The double pops out sometimes during fatigue (in my case), injury, hunger or disease to the body. The double of the injured may travel many miles to 'tap' the significant people in its lives 'tell' them of the accident etc.

As to the Eagle devouring awareness... Don Juan himself said that that description was 'lax' and encouraged new warriors to see it differently via his suggestion to CC to do so himself. I see it as reincarnation...escaping the cycle of reincarnation and moving on to a permanent residence in the astral locale. I think wearing flesh is a school of sorts to hone the real person...the astral being.
And now: back to your regularly scheduled (de)programming...

[Nagual LoneWolf]

The reincarnation theory actually supports the energetic being referred to as the double. Remember the seers "saw" the eagle devouring awareness. This is a description of beings entering the colossal form of a darkness(eagle) reaching into infinity with one eye (a light) and a beak (a doorway).
What happens after that we do not know. It may be a portal into another world/existence or it could mean death of the spirit.

[SSilhouette]

Montgomery and Cayce both spoke of what happens after death. They were both trance mediums who tapped into informants that told of how we're here on a mission to learn, but that learning continues there and assisting others to learn from that realm into the physical is what it's all about.
There are many levels in the non-physical and one must strive to learn and rise upward there as well.
This is all according to them.
But if you go and read the Near Death Experience reports from this link: NDE site you will see that the reports from many unrelated people tend to corroborate Montgomery and Cayce's findings..
So there are some people who know what happens after death. It's just whether or not you choose to believe them.
It's from their findings that propel me to reassess the "lax" description of the Eagle devouring awareness, and instead say that it matches the dark and light contrasts that many NDEers report, and that what looks like something being devoured may actually be the life review stage of death.
Cayce especially reported that upon death, the motherboard of the human inventories of the recent life are scrubbed and those memories cached in a collective unconsious. Then when a new life is taken on, those past memories do not interfere with new learning, or rather a new chance at elevating one's status. Hangups apparently are counterproductive to progression.
It would seem a no-brainer.And now: back to your regularly scheduled (de)programming...

[Guest]