Stopping the world and seeing

[shamanka]

"upon the activation of this thought my awareness connects"- serloco

i use silence and sensation/ awareness..not 'thought'

do you see the linear progression, but still a recognized separation within you?

if in silence and sensation, all is perfect and so as you are unconcerned...the 'will' of self alters..into state of wellbeing...

this is shifting to face the wheel of time....where you emit in being and receive..rather than seeking...

the urges come to act...but even that is in unconcern......just a suggestion...

[serloco]

For me my thoughts are an extension of my awareness. It allows me to observe my awareness and change it. I dont see my thoughts as separate from reality, instead I see them as forming, or aligning to reality. So when I have a thought it reaches out to the emanations and aligns to them, activates them according to the thought I have.

That sounds like a nice state you describe and I would love to learn it. I have some great positions I have found as well, very powerful ones. I can't say I am unconcerned though, because if I have a limited thought, or idea, or a negative one, I examine it, find where it came from, then I change it, freeing the energy within it. This is my concern and the result of it gives me power. So I see it as a good thing.

[serloco]

I'll give you an example of why I see my thoughts as my awareness, or at least closely tied together. Once I was sitting by the side of the road and I had a thought about people being being self-important and as I looked at someone driving past me in a car it seemed to me that they cringed ever so slightly in response to my thought. I then thought that perhaps they can hear me, and are telepathic, and then I thought further about it and i thought maybe they didnt like my negativity about people. Sure it could have been speculation, or a coincidence having nothing to do with my questions, but I wondered about it, and began to watch more closely. That simple thought led me to a place where both my thoughts were true. As I watched I guided my thoughts between two possibilities, the first one was that they can hear me, and when i invested my power in this thought that is what I saw, and the second was that it was coincidence and as I wavered to this thought I saw that it was right, that it was just a wild delusion, or perhaps wishful thinking. I saw as I wavered between these two ideas that my thoughts could direct my attention, and my awareness between these states, or positions. So naturally I started to guide and control my thoughts.

[serloco]

If you want to stop your world stop your thoughts, because they are guiding the alignment of reality to your perception. Your thoughts not only can sustain the world you see, but they can shift the world you see.

[DanJones]

Serloco, once I was walking through my basement and there was this big orb spider scuttling across the basement floor.  I looked down at it and thought about using my shoe to crush it.  As soon as the thought formed the spider contracted its legs.  "This is different", I said to myself.  The impulse to crush the poor little thing happened again and in its legs went.  I left it alone and digested what had just happened.  My thoughts when they are intent affects the world around me.  How do I reach intent?  By stopping my internal dialogue and when I am still any thought can become a command.  When you think about it our internal dialogue is  nothing more than a self reinforcing set of commands that we repeat over and over again needed to make this dream solid and real.  Since we are all using the same commands in lock step we experience the world as we know it, our modern day culture.  I have tried other internal dialogues and have created variations on mainstream reality.  If people gain energy from what I am doing this variation isn't blocked.  If people lose energy boy howdy do they ever block...
This is where people become the Black Magicians as groups of people can hold us to their reality using an internal dialogue that excludes any variations.

[shamanka]

i understand the concept of will Serloco, or mindfulness....extending into intent and power,

this is imo and experience, reaching into the known still, to reaffirm ones control over what one perceives..this is cool, until you really want to experience the full unknown...and it is at this point that one has to truly let go, to be able to 'accept without accepting and believe without believing'..this offers deconstruction and loss of self, not reinforcement of the fixed state of our ability to will and perceive, which only serves to enhance a sense of self...and in the case above, the choice of two or more mind perceptions...

you have to lose the sense of self and it working for us, before the full experience of the unknown can be realised..at this point, power becomes that which is, not something to seek...intent becomes evident although we are not in 'control' or necessarily a harness for it...one merges with that which is, but 'that which is' is a reality that functions totally..without the need for a self, to alter it in any way...this is unconcern...this is freedom..it leads to well being...acting from the path of heart...which is not a personal path....at this level...at this point, the path masters you and you find a whole new spectrum of awareness starts to flood your conscious..and the dream of the dreamer expands considerably...

i like however that you recognize what you can do, it is indeed useful to know what the 'self' is...in our subjective perception... my post is merely encouragement for your being, to consider yet another possibility

[Draco Fellicci]

Dreams;world is made of silence, the form is the intent, carried by the silence like the words which meaning is percepted, acquired by the silence that makes it to be.

[serloco]

DanJones wrote:Serloco, once I was walking through my basement and there was this big orb spider scuttling across the basement floor.  I looked down at it and thought about using my shoe to crush it.  As soon as the thought formed the spider contracted its legs.  "This is different", I said to myself.  The impulse to crush the poor little thing happened again and in its legs went.  I left it alone and digested what had just happened.  My thoughts when they are intent affects the world around me.  How do I reach intent?  By stopping my internal dialogue and when I am still any thought can become a command.  When you think about it our internal dialogue is  nothing more than a self reinforcing set of commands that we repeat over and over again needed to make this dream solid and real.  Since we are all using the same commands in lock step we experience the world as we know it, our modern day culture.  I have tried other internal dialogues and have created variations on mainstream reality.  If people gain energy from what I am doing this variation isn't blocked.  If people lose energy boy howdy do they ever block...
This is where people become the Black Magicians as groups of people can hold us to their reality using an internal dialogue that excludes any variations.
Yes you are right, but if I were you I would work at shifting that power away from the 'black magicians' who have the power to hold reality for you. There are many ways to do this. You could shift your judgment away form the concept of black magician, and to a more positive label, remembering that it is YOUR judgment that places them into this role. It takes a leap and you will change reality in doing so, but the result is better. Its YOUR awareness that gives them this very real power, but if you can first imagine a better label then you can apply it just as you imagined it to be. it is one of the secrets I discovered about imagination, you can intend your imagination into form. It took me a long time, and for awhile everywhere I went the people were still pushing their negative perceptions of the world onto me and everything around them. For awhile what manifested would be a result of both my intent and theirs, it would mix together, and since I saw them as black magicians they were all doing it knowingly, just to be evil. Again I was a slave to my judgment. I started to see them as actors, acting our the roles I gave them to a tee. One position which I very much like saw everyone as being in my world, all carrying my own awareness, and upholding that awareness instead. I could see that the mink of my consciousness, my awareness, was indeed connected to everyone around me, and so as I shifted my awareness they all shift with me. That is linear, sure, you could also perceive that when you shift your awareness you are leaving the world and into another close position, a paralel position of humanity. It depends on what you think you are doing, what you are aware of, or what you intend. With power you can intend exactly the result you want, but it takes practice. In another position of humanity I removed all of their actual will, their volition, and i saw people as needing my intent to move them. it was based from the idea of don Juan's that inorganics move to your awareness, and since i saw that people did too i started to see everyone as IOBS, without volition. In that position everyone moves only to your own awareness and will, and have no real volition of their own, no power but the power you give them. The  many positions of humanity are diverse, variable, and many. It is a good stalker who can see this and guide their awareness, intend their awareness, to the position they absolutely intend. Plan it, set your intent, and wait for the world to shift.

[serloco]

shamanka wrote:i understand the concept of will Serloco, or mindfulness....extending into intent and power,

this is imo and experience, reaching into the known still, to reaffirm ones control over what one perceives..this is cool, until you really want to experience the full unknown...and it is at this point that one has to truly let go, to be able to 'accept without accepting and believe without believing'..this offers deconstruction and loss of self, not reinforcement of the fixed state of our ability to will and perceive, which only serves to enhance a sense of self...and in the case above, the choice of two or more mind perceptions...

you have to lose the sense of self and it working for us, before the full experience of the unknown can be realised..at this point, power becomes that which is, not something to seek...intent becomes evident although we are not in 'control' or necessarily a harness for it...one merges with that which is, but 'that which is' is a reality that functions totally..without the need for a self, to alter it in any way...this is unconcern...this is freedom..it leads to well being...acting from the path of heart...which is not a personal path....at this level...at this point, the path masters you and you find a whole new spectrum of awareness starts to flood your conscious..and the dream of the dreamer expands considerably...

i like however that you recognize what you can do, it is indeed useful to know what the 'self' is...in our subjective perception... my post is merely encouragement for your being, to consider yet another possibility
Yes you are right, it is the known that i enforce with my mind, usually. But not always. Many of the positions I now enforce came to me from the unknown, before I had the power to see the possibilities that I know intend. For example seeing people as telepathic was unknown to me, yet my mind could still conceive of it and intend it. And my mind also further expanded this position, explored this unknown position, and developed it. My mind didnt know what was true while it wavered between the two positions of telepathic people and coincidence and it settled on both positions, showing me a choice that I then made. I agree with silence being a good road to the unknown, but so too is simply not knowing, which as i see it can still be done with the mind. I just suspend my judgments, by having the thought that I dont know anymore, and allowing the unknown to manifest. I can knowingly intend the unknown because I know it exists. I can remove the power of my mind from upholding the values of one position, to allow something i don't know to surface, because I know it. Even though i know my awareness I still know the unknown is here too. I can close it off and uphold my values, or I can stop the values, and I can do this with my known awareness. What I cant know is what will surface from it. I enjoy the positions of known awareness I have developed from what was unknown to me before, and as I see it it takes both the known and the unknown to do this cycle of discovery. This is how one conditions their tonal to accept the nagual, by realizing that sure we know what we know, but in another position just around the corner is the unknown, and we dont know that....yet. But when we do we will, and then we can explore and find what it has given us. Creating another position of known awareness. I dont think it is wrong to live in the known, so long as you have the freedom and detachment to let go and explore that which you do not know. SO long as you are balanced you can do both, enjoy the known, and let it go for the unknown. So what i am saying is that i know the unknown is there and how to suspend the known to allow the unknown to surface, and I can do this with my mind now, because my mind know about it.

[serloco]

I know about the unknown...now. I learned it long ago. So this knowingness i possess allows me to sustain what I know or let it go. My mind and thoughts knows it too. I do it everytime I shift into another position of awareness, either one i know of or one i dont. It is the ability to shift power to one known position to another, or to the unknown.

[serloco]

I don't want to nit-pick, but concern is very lovely at times. I'll give you an example. In the chatroom you yourself expressed concern, although perhaps you didn't know it. It was nice, and enjoyable, and is appreciated. You told me that the ruthless way I stalk people sometimes isn't welcome and that I should keep it in the stalker forum because you didn't want to see me disappear from the site. I felt your concern for me and was touched by it! I think that is nice, and my concern for you is the same. I am concerned that you think concern is something negative, whereas I see that it can be a very beautiful thing. I am also concerned that you believe you are totally unconcerned yourself, which is OK and perhaps you have different idea of concern than I do, which is also OK. Concern perhaps can be negative in certain instances, as You perhaps see yourself, which at present I do not have. But i am concerned because I have held to many teachings of don juan and other teachers that led me into negative places, and as I see having negative views can lead to negativity itself. It CAN lead not necessarily MUST lead. I am merely trying to utilize the intelligence that you so value within me, and so if I am out of place I am sorry.

[serloco]

My thoughts can let me soar beyond my limits!! Like when I sing and am belting out the music I feel and I think for a second that I am confident and I am beautiful, that I sing amazingly, and then like magic it takes flight and i sing like an angel. Its lovely, but then again, like most things, it can be a negative too, so when i fall in my mind my voice cracks and I fall. Once when i was studying the wolf I was singing in a small room, and my voice lifted, hanging on a long note, and many wolves (part of my pack) all started howling inside of my voice! it was wonderful.

[serloco]

Once I realized that even the knowledge and awareness I possessed about my mind and my thouhts can be suspended and reintended from the unknown. I started to see that my consciousness was being fed to me from an outside source. I wanted to be a freeflowing rapper, like eminem, and so I intended my thoughts to rhyme and in the highest vibrations/awareness I could come up with. So I let myself go and I flowed to this stream and everything that left my mouth was a beautiful rhyme that spread great awareness to the people around me. I walked for hours all around and many people were listening to me, and I sang my heart out all day long, for about 8 hours straight. Everything just flowed in perfect rhymes and from outside awareness. It was quite amazing.

[serloco]

"E.T."

You're so hypnotizing
Could you be the devil?
Could you be an angel?

Your touch magnetizing
Feels like I am floating
Leaves my body glowing

They say, be afraid
You're not like the others
Futuristic lover
Different DNA
They don't understand you

[Pre-Chorus]
You're from a whole 'nother world
A different dimension
You open my eyes
And I'm ready to go
Lead me into the light

Kiss me, ki-ki-kiss me
Infect me with your love and
Fill me with your poison

Take me, ta-ta-take me
Wanna be a victim
Ready for abduction

Boy, you're an alien
Your touch so foreign
It's supernatural
Extraterrestrial

[Verse 2]
You're so supersonic
Wanna feel your powers
Stun me with your lasers
Your kiss is cosmic
Every move is magic

[Pre-Chorus]
You're from a whole 'nother world
A different dimension
You open my eyes
And I'm ready to go
Lead me into the light

[Chorus]
Kiss me, ki-ki-kiss me
Infect me with your love and
Fill me with your poison

Take me, ta-ta-take me
Wanna be a victim
Ready for abduction

Boy, you're an alien
Your touch so foreign
It's supernatural
Extraterrestrial

[Bridge]
This is transcendental
On another level
Boy, you're my lucky star

I wanna walk on your wave length
And be there when you vibrate
For you I'll risk it all
All

[Chorus]
Kiss me, ki-ki-kiss me
Infect me with your love and
Fill me with your poison

Take me, ta-ta-take me
Wanna be a victim
Ready for abduction

Boy, you're an alien
Your touch so foreign
It's supernatural
Extraterrestrial

Extraterrestrial
Extraterrestrial

Boy, you're an alien
Your touch so foreign
It's supernatural
Extraterrestrial

[serloco]

Many people have suggested that seeing is not done with the eyes and I agree. Through my years of observation and bending the senses I have come to discover that indeed the senses are infact forms of attention. See everything is awareness itself, and we are beings of awareness. We are aware, and as such our attention connects with the world at large.. to whatever we are aware of. Our sight is an aspect of awareness that forms attention in order to focus our awareness onto the world. The extended awareness that then aligns and fixates onto the world we call our attention and our senses. Our attention is a channel of awareness to and from everything in the world.

[serloco]

All of our senses that are physical are really just forms of awareness and attention made into physical forms. It can be seen as reflections of awareness, or merely as forms of awareness and attentions. Just as attention hooks onto energy directly or can be made to, the eyes also can hook onto the actions within the world and act as conduits to and from your focus of sight, or hearing etc, they can be made to transfer and form energy, as well as to be aware of energy. In this way your eyes themselves can begin to witness conscious energy and sight and any of the senses may be expanded with expanded awareness. Your eyes can be made to see thought energy as visual conscious perception. Since awareness generates perception awareness can be actually seen within perception. This is seeing. It can actually be done with any of the senses but most easily with the focused attention directly through the other senses that hook onto the action taking place. Seek and you shall find. My awareness of something makes that alignment of active perception generate. Therefor not only am I aware of reality but am aware of awareness generating reality. Not only am I aware but I am made of awareness. Our senses are really forms of our awareness made into specialized forms like the eyes and the ears and our skin touching things. Our awareness of our self being aware creates even our forms of our bodies as an awareness itself that sees the forms of its own awareness. By expanding our awareness of even our senses we can expand and alter them or even create new forms of awareness to sense reality with making new forms of the senses. basically just specialized forms of attention and awareness.

[serloco]

I was given a reed like a measuring rod, like a staff, and was told, "Go and measure the temple of God and the altar, and those who worship in it." ~Revelations 11:1.

On seeing directly..

[glance left]

yeah, for me seeing involves a vibratory feeling in the body...that includes seeing...or something that seems similar to seeing, though it's not quite the same. It's a bodily signature.....a thrum....that has a visual inflection to it. It's a wonderful, wholesome feeling all-in-all. It revives me like nothing else. The body is bathed in the seeing

[Littlepaw]

Is it something you can do when ever? or do you find it happens spontaneously when you weren't expecting it?

[glance left]

Well, the impression/impulse to stop and gaze seems to come out of the blue....so that part is spontaneous and seems to hit me from somewhere, out there. But no, I have to have silence gather momentum for a little while so the inner shift can create the space/conditions within which seeing takes place. I would think, with practice, that maybe one could become proficient at staying in that shifted/silent state within which seeing happens much more frequently Being perennially available to Infinity

[Guest]