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"in nagualism, we are asking.. where is this stream of energy leading us"
Who's asking?
Nagualism is huge...and huge-er still that which lies beyond the word/path/lineage implied here. Who's the authority behind what you say here? Is there an authority?
Your question is a personal one, the answer to which you cannot impose on others, I wouldn't think. i.e. the only way this question makes sense is to ask yourself and leave it at that.
"and also. the "color" (colour) of energy. hm. if this is a black energy in/to effect, no bueno"
Really? No way I can take this seriously.
"WHERE I AM GRAVITATING WITH MY ENERGY AND MY INTENT ?"
That's better. Now at least you're addressing yourself.
I'm to take responsibility for my entrapment, and there-in lies my path to freedom.
"consider this letter (carefully)" "Letter from Bob"
Who is Bob? And who is he trying to convince? Why should I accept his perspective which, first of all, is simply a conclusion drawn in a single moment in time, subject to change as circumstances change...as realization changes..as energy changes. Does Bob feel the same way now as when he wrote this letter...still adhering to all those conclusions implied by that wad of words? If so, then he's already suspect in terms of providing useful information.
Why, in the moment of my death, would I waste a single thought, on Tensegrity...on Cleargreen...on Bob....on Nagualism...on Dreamways...on any of that stuff? Apart from perhaps a gesture of gratitude for what any of these may have offered in being a part of where/who/what I am now/will be then...whatever that may be. Apart from that, none of it will mean a hill of beans in that definitive moment in which the gravity of the moment will supercede any luxury of thought along these lines. No time for bullshit!
And all of this is bullshit, in light of that reality.
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GL. this the thread on tensegrity, so the question is on the tensegrity particulary. tensegrity is a power practice, deeply influencing ones energy. so the question is how are these particular series of passes influencing my energy...
the issue here is mainly with the possible energetic damage (one must be very carefull not to damage oneself with the passes) and how it is pushing and changing my energy.
also, one observed effect with tensegrity practise that inorganic beings (from local, but also unlocal/distant space-time) are then lured to the practitioner, due to energy effect and intent. / and those were the (cosy/groovy) intent passes, too.
mkay. i will do the ancient code sequence, and yes, off-course, something will get focused on me. or the antenna pass.
Why ? because if the toltec sorcerers and ancient shamans were practicing it 10 000 - 3000 years ago... that is the point, of the background radiation intent behind it.
otherwise, where is one gravitating exactly. to be aware of that. that was a good note on death GL, and that is exactly what i am concerned about.
just an open explanation. nothing hidden from public.
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in this regard, tensegrity is an influence (e.g. like digging and sleeping in the second attention pyramids/sites in Mexico)
but the personal intent and state of ones energy= the total sum is gravitating to a world in ones death.
the problem here is when one is not aware what an intent is behing oneself. and this is the problem with tensegrity, as the practitioners are not aware how tensegrity changed their energy...
and this is the point here.
tensegrity can change ones natural human energy into wierd one. influencing ones intent, decisions and avenues in the movement in tonal and nagual towards unwholesome states.
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and as an energetic structure bound together by "the immense affection"---
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"We are beings that are going to die" and as such we can each trust the voice of the seer within to guide us as individuals, and as an energetic structure bound together by the immense affection we have for each other." - Bob Savery
that is a wierd statement =) isnt it ?
as i have pointed. an ancient shamanism with all its energetic consequences for nagualism. i.e. old seers/ancient shamans, "theirs" intent.
I consider nagualism as a natural state. if you modify your energy by the ancient energy+intent influence, you get the effect.
i.e. tensegrity is not new age. if you pratice tensegrity you can become a very wierd guy who is going to die ))
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"I'm to take responsibility for my entrapment, and there-in lies my path to freedom."
what if tensegrity changed your energy and intent to the foreign one from your original one/energy color as you were born ? and that can cause ones entrapment as one uses tensegrity as an energy tracker ? instead of recapitulation.
the problem of tensegrity per se is if it has the desired effect and very pragmatic one, or not. otherwise it is a modifier of ones energy, i.e. imbuing (adulterating) ones energy and intent toward this wierd qualities.
tensegrity cannot repair ones energy and give back power (instead of recapitulation), as it is only causing particular energetic effect.
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more and more i am thinking about that more i am sure about how the intent and energy behind everything is important, especially with something wierd as tensegrity.
i am afraid that when CC has introduced tensegrity, its background intent shifted into the whole stream....
and now... this is problem with everything in CC derived sorcery.
Don Juan Matus: "Do not never do tensegrity, as it will eat your soul /energy body." why ? thats what i am pointing to.
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Don Juan Matus: "never do tensegrity again, as it would eat your soul /energy body."
why ?
personally, i am not doing tensegrity too, not only from the same reason, but also because i see no reason in doing tesegrity, as there is no useful effect in order to liberate oneself or reclaim power.
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Tensegrity and "We are beings that are going to die" connection... IS A DECEPTION.
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I know what this thread is about, CI5.
I am addressing your posts...your certainty within them. And I confess, I can't keep up with your assumptions. They're breeding like fruit flies.
I recommend questioning the source of your certainty. What do you really know for sure? Can you really say what's what in terms of possible "outcomes" with respect to Tensegrity and those who practice it? Or anything for that matter? If not, what in the world are you doing? Are you being careful about the ground beneath your feet (never mind where other's are stepping)? Because that's where the danger lies.
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GL: yes, certainly.
but you have avoided the topic. you can say only what an effect CCs tensegrity had on your energy/life.
otherwise, i must say that psychotropic drugs/power plants are much more harmful to the body/energy than misguided tensegrity practice (a disciplined person can practice tensegrity safely, but this is a shamanistic practitioner pursuing a direct shamanistic intent).
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You should read this thread
Tensegrity - Where Castaneda Went Wrong
http://sorcery.yuku.com/t...-Went-Wrong#.UAs1tFIs1w1
Before Castaneda abandoned Don Juan's path of the fire from within, I think that he still had a chance of being a positive leader. But, once he decided to teach people "tensegrity," it all went to hell. I believe that tensegrity was taught to Carlos by the Death Defier and that it cultivates insect based energy. Death defiers look and act like insects, nothing wrong with that in itself, if that's what you want to do, but to pass off tensegrity as something that Don Juan taught him is nothing short of evil.
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Not all passes are intended to generate "insect type energy" (whats rather a group aspect whats an insect type energy here), otherwise video III is pure insect. so the insect aspect is the in-group-distribution effect as reffered above on the "structure".
With tensegrity, there is a backgroud intent (changing ones energy, luring things into energetic field) and there is the in-group-distribution effect.
Otherwise the problem with tensegrity is the origin and the intent behind, as intent is the force shaping energy. And energy is shaping being/consciousness.
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i dont say that tensegrity is "insect" as a whole, except video III.
but it has the structure of practitioners distribution effect - and this is official CC/Cleargreen. "A community that we are".
and it has the background intent, what is not a healthy one intent at all.
I am afraid (i am not) that tensegrity leaves an energetic signature, that it marks the practitioners..
the classification is clear: noxious second attention effect (same like artificial power sites/pyramids in Mexico)
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1)
The death defiers have no conscience, either individually or as a swarm. To lure people down the path of losing their humanity without letting them know that this was what you had planned for them, I believe that is evil. Although Howard Lee is an **** in his own right, he did get it right about the fact that Castaneda was a tool of the death defier. I wouldn't rehash all this now except that LoneWolf mentioned that he saw a renewed presence of the death defier emerging on Earth. I have looked into it and I believe that he is correct, which makes me sick to my stomach. I was hoping that they were gone forever, but now I see that they will never leave.
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Here's where Castaneda got tripped up in his own lie. At the tensegrity seminars, he said that he and the witches had decided not to burn with the fire from within, as Don Juan had instructed them, but had decided to fly off into infinity instead. The means by which they would accomplish this was tensegrity. Only problem there is that Don Juan would not have taught them how to use the fire from within and also to not do it by practicing tensegrity to prevent it. That doesn't make any sense at all. Castaneda revealed that he was not following Don Juan and also revealed the existence of this thing called tensegrity, which nobody had ever heard of before, at the same time. Tensegrity was taught to Castaneda by the Death Defier, not Don Juan, because Don Juan had already instructed Carlos to do the exact opposite thing.
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one thing that never sat right with me was that the cleargreen group seemed to be so secretive and sort of elitist - but then they teach the passes to huge groups of people at once? it never made sense to me....
but -
would it have been possible that the group was aiming to cultivate a certain kind of energy by having all these people do the passes together? do you think they were generating an appropriate energy for something else to "feed" on?
it seems that it is clear that the old sorcerers were involved with human sacrifice... for offering the energy of others to the inorganics in exchange for favors, etc . ....if this group was so influenced by that tone, it stands to reason they might have had the same motives.... what else could have been gained from getting random groups of people to alter their energy?
in any case, what does it mean that the death-defiers have a cycle?
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tensegrity still ok ?
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if castaneda was training people to morph their energy away from humanness...... without them knowing... well, that's pretty inhuman.
it's totally out of my capacity to think or feel what that even implies. he had to know that would be the case for 99% of people. that is pretty...ahem.... evil.
it's one thing to allow people to lie to themselves - only you can dissolve your own self-importance....
it's another to train them up to be food for alien energy.
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Of course its ok, if the one practicing it is ok. That's the point. It redeploys energy (no more so than other energetic systems, perhaps)...so then, of course, whatever hang-ups are manifest in the one the energy is being redeployed within will be accentuated. If one practices them with greedy intention, then you better bet unexpected consequences of this character defect will crop up sooner or later....in spades. And when those manifest, to turn around and blame the movements instead of addressing ones aberrent tendencies...well, right there's another deplorable character defect prolonging the inevitable.
So its not about whether or not someone practices Tensegrity, really...its more about whether or not someone clarifies their spirit. And that begins with a sense of inherent responsibility.
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The energetic logarithm 's and graphs , exponential growth,seem to give some insight into these energetics for me, if we are determined awareness what determines us can become us to determine the direction of our eyes. Angus and Julia are singing , make you a star in
My universe , you'll never have to go to work , here I go I'll tell you what you already know . Hi glance . Hi Ci5 , the tension is a good subject.
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Fabs: imo people engaging themselves in tensegrity wont get it. (as Tensegrity is well known for eating ones energybody/soul. This is not a joke, just a parable).
so this is a good test.
One is so "clever" that one is doing CCs/Death Defier (ancient) Tensegrity (i.e. not Don Juan) - can one get it to the Dome of Naguals as a test or not ? If not, one asks himself seriuosly if one is not being crippled by Tensegrity.
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if one is not aware of intent behind tensegrity, one is a fool.
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"A community that we are"... and this is official CCs Tensegrity, Cleargreen.
Do you want to belong to community ?
it is 10 000 years ago + Cleargreen !
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Tensegrity® practice is an art: the art of adapting to one's own energy, and to each other's energy in a way that contributes to the integrity of the community that we are. Carlos Castaneda
http://www.cleargreen.com...h/tensegrity/groups.cfm/
"A community that we are"
??? =)))
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I did tensegrity and i am 100 % sure it had altered my energy to pretty "inhuman" mood. Then i have behaved in impossible ways, it had sabotaged my life/intent.
The idea here: to bring the energy back/consolidate, recapitulation is used. and not a soul-eating tensegrity.
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Thats a mistake of not doing recapitulation, i.e. doing tensegrity totally unnecessarily/in vain instead of recapitulation and not doing recapitulation.
doing tensegrity and not doing recapitulation and the result is disastrous...
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you see, there is not an intent like an intent, one must discriminate the intents.. the color.. the state.. the gravity of energy.
not doing recapitulation, and the result is disastrous... disastrous.
it is also historical, because recapitulation is an inventure of the enlightened seers, not of every ancient shaman, sorcerer and old seers. death defiers are certainly not good recapitulators.
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tensegrity brings foreign intent (ancient shamans/old seers)
the goal is to put an energy body together. and not to become a bug.
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