Sustained reaction run by Flyers

[scout1]

I have made a probe into SR, and found them to be enemies of: Jesus, Buddha, Tibetan buddhism, Stanislav Grof, Terence McKenna, DMT, Ayahuasca shamanism and Carlos Castaneda =))))
http://sustainedreaction....neda?page=1#.T-eBAnIs1w0

arent those symptoms ? =)


I have got banned/deleted offcourse.
"sceptics"...

[messengerpidgeon]

May the force be with you

[scout1]

messengerpidgeon wrote:May the force be with you
Thank You pidgin and dont take it wrong !
"Our advantage is that we are dispensable, there is a lot of food around! A position of total

alertness, which is nothing but discipline, creates such conditions in our attention that we

don't taste good any more to those beings. In that case, they turn away and leave us in peace."

[Nagual LoneWolf]

Welcome to the Banned Sustained Reaction Club Scout, I'm of course in that club for over 10 years now.

[dreamingshaman]

Banished from the Kingdom of the Flyers for posting this in reply to TBD post found here:
http://sustainedreaction.yuku.com/topic ... KL5E4UkzS0


I responded to the Post TBD wrote called: Evolution and the 'Assemblage Point' -


with this:




"Don Juan's explanation...was that human beings are perceived as conglomerates of energy fields; sealed energetic units that have definite boundaries which don't permit the entrance or the exit of energy. Therefore, the energy existing within that conglomerate of energy fields is all that each human individual can count on."


Well, the idea behind this is that Human Beings are each unto themselves the universe. That's why energy can't come in or go out. All the energy that was used in creating the universe is present in the luminous cocoon (and as a derivative in the human body). Of course, the only way to verify that is first-hand experience. Or you can use a textual comparison as a methodology to prove it. For instance, "Buddhism teaches that our physical bodies are not possessed of an intrinsic self, and our persistent sense of ourselves as separate from the rest of the universe is a delusion."


This is why Shamans say when they reach full awareness they become aware that they are the universe. And that our purpose as human beings is to realize that "We are the means by which the universe becomes aware of itself."


TBD says:
" the 'AP model' accounts for nothing related to our basic perceptions and physical existence"


Hmmm this statement certainly is true if your fundamental reference point is physical existence. And it's true of your physical existence is separate from rest of the universe. Getting a hold of a different reference point is all that is needed to verify the truths of Buddhism or Shamanism.


Lets not forget the grip the collective and consensual reference point has on each of us. "Don Juan pointed out that everyone who comes into contact with a child is a teacher who incessantly describes the world to him, until the moment when the child is capable of perceiving the world as it is described. According to don Juan, we have no memory of that portentous moment, simply because none of us could possibly have had any point of reference to compare it to anything else. From that moment on, however, the child is a member. . . . For don Juan, then, the reality of our day-to-day life consists of an endless flow of perceptual interpretations which we, the individuals who share a specific membership, have learned to make in common."-http://www.doyletics.com/art/ixtlan.htm




Many of us - pretty much billions of us experience this directly. It's easy to witness this behavior in anybody, anywhere: "An overwhelming sense of justice would out of necessity force one to hold only one particular world view. In this context, the tragedy would be that one would be constrained from witnessing and experiencing other modes of thought. Castaneda held this flexibility to be the inherent heritage of mankind." -http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toltec_(Castaneda)




 "Something out there is affecting our senses. This is the part that is real. The unreal part is what our senses tell us is there. Take a mountain, for instance. Our senses tell us that it is an object. It has size, color, form. We even have categories of mountains, and they are downright accurate. Nothing wrong with that; the flaw is simply that it has never occurred to us that our senses play only a superficial role. Our senses perceive the way they do because a specific feature of our awareness forces them to do so." -http://www.prismagems.com/castaneda/donjuan7.html


N Let's not forget that arguing-is-pointless, even the collective, common, consensual FoxNews Agrees: Must be Truth Then! :-)


http://www.foxbusiness.com/business-lea ... pointless/


This is why Shamans'  say that "In order to arrive at seeing one first has to stop the world." -http://www.prismagems.com/castaneda/


Now stopping the world is the Shamanic equivalent to a 1 year old finally recognizing objects in the world as three-dimensional. This magical act for the child lays the foundational reference point for all of its endeavors.


"Stopping the world is indeed an appropriate rendition of certain states of awareness in which the reality of everyday life is altered because the flow of interpretation, which ordinarily runs uninterruptedly, has been stopped by a set of circumstances alien to that flow. In this case the set of circumstances alien to our normal flow of interpretations is the sorcery description of the world. The precondition for stopping the world is that one has to be convinced; in other words, one has to learn the new description in a total sense, for the purpose of pitting it against the old one, and in that way break the dogmatic certainty, which we all share, that the validity of our perceptions, or our reality of the world, is not to be questioned."


Sure we can take scientific findings (the holy grail of truth in our times) and use it to Justify our Interpretation of Castaneda's work, but we are still interpreting. We are not actually perceiving anything. We are merely doing what our Training has taught us to do. Which is totally fine if you dig looking at the world from only a single perspective. N what the heck everybody does it so no harm done right? :-)

[dreamingshaman]

So I wrote to TBD n asked him why he deleted my post. And I was quite suprised to see he wrote back. Not his typical reaction to run n hide n obfuscate the facts:



Talking Brujo Dog:

You have no 'challenge' to offer a man like me. Nothing you say is the least bit "threatening". You merely waste my valuable time. I could easily refute your childish opinions, but I refuse to any more of my time doing that. This site exists to provide real information to people, and you clearly have none to offer. Since you ask, here's the note I put in your file when I banned you:

"In his/her very first post, did not really respond to any of the arguments made. Simply quoted from 'Don Juan' as if quoting from the Bible. Gonesville."



Don't come back.



TBD



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From: dreamingshaman.sustainedreaction

To:Talking Brujo Dog

Sent:November 13, 2012, 9:12 pm



Good Afternoon TBD, I know you are moderator on this forum and I'm coming to you to ask if you know anything about my post being deleted. I know my views are somewhat startling and do not uphold the views that you support, but I do make valid contributions to the discussion here that many people do enjoy reading. And the readers of this forum contact me and do let me know that my experiences and views are insightful and well worth the effort I put into writing them.



Given your behaviour towards my writing, as I am completely 100% positive that you deleted my post, I can tell you kinda just want this forum to be just a group of peeps talking about the same old things without any really challenge to you and your comrades views. This is no surprise as the kind of isolation you have over this forum means that you want to protect your group. But given that it is forum for discussing the topic of Castaneda it would be a lot more interesting to have other views and perspectives in here other that don't fit the mold you desire.



I know you are unbudgeable in this aspect and will never let me post. But I have to ask you as to why? Why? What was so threatening about my post that made you delete it?



Thanks for your time and attention,



DreamingShaman

________________

No surprises there!

LOL!

For all of TBD's criticisms of Castaneda TBD has become the very tyrannical force he believes Castaneda was.

He has his group of Yes Men n he totally bans anyone with a different opinion. Poor guy n his groupies will probably spend the rest of their lives

with their very very narrow view of the world.

[Gestblinde]

A site for people that want to "reason" their way to knowledge?..Hmm, sounds a bit counterproductive to be honest.

It´s like how Vatican schoolars have been trying to figure out the Judas kiss for centuries, they had a bit of a chock when a recently translated Coptic scripture described why..so now they just ignore it

"Then the Jews said to Judas: How shall we arrest him [Jesus], for he does not have a single shape but his appearance changes. Sometimes he is ruddy, sometimes he is white, sometimes he is red, sometimes he is wheat coloured, sometimes he is pallid like ascetics, sometimes he is a youth, sometimes an old man ..." This leads Judas to suggest using a kiss as a means to identify him. If Judas had given the arresters a description of Jesus he could have changed shape. By kissing Jesus Judas tells the people exactly who he is"

[messengerpidgeon]

A group forms
And forms
A
Group
.
I would quote
Don juan and jesus
If i
Wanted
To
.
I had
Some information about groups , and a
Quote
Of don juans about the story where the guy pretended
He knew
The password
And the
Gaurd forgot it
Himself . That sort
Of thing except for
A
Kind
Of
Reversal
.
The story something alike this .
A bunch of story tellers
Stood at a gate , each knowing there
Were no password yet having memorised the key to the password having no shape form
Etc as in jesus
Quote
:
A
Gateway was formed
. As
The gateway had not existed to speak of ,
All the gaurds began to think that if they held formation and kept their mouths shut ,
Then they would ensure their position in the gaurd and ensure
The duration of that availability to closeness to what had been gaurded .
" which had no form "
As
Time
Passed
, the closenes
Of
The gaurd
To the key to the quote to the position to the circle
Grew tighter .
No way to sneer politely as the form of the position govern slightly
In the mission to position of remission .

[messengerpidgeon]

Lol

[rosygyro]

scout1 wrote:I have made a probe into SR, and found them to be enemies of: Jesus, Buddha, Tibetan buddhism, Stanislav Grof, Terence McKenna, DMT, Ayahuasca shamanism and Carlos Castaneda =))))
http://sustainedreaction....neda?page=1#.T-eBAnIs1w0
arent those symptoms ? =)
I have got banned/deleted offcourse.
"sceptics"...WHO CARES ABOUT "SuStAiNeD rEActIOn"???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
from what i SEE a group of people who require normal men to REMAIN stuck in uncontrolled folly in order for them to support their own PLATEUX.
... paper warrior paper warrioress, paper aeroplane, just a soggy mess..

[rosygyro]

The trouble is that no-one seems to recognise that within MEST of the sorcerers world is a PATH.
This path is Mortal its as long as you are..
AS the objective amongst us reach illusiorary highs of 1st 2nd and 3rd attention..
it should be clear that the net benefit/challenge of these levels are also heaped onto the 
Subjective energy of the Corporeal being who walks the path.

its sort of like having two bodies..
one for remote viewing with..
and another working in absolute opposite which must act to counter the extra-sensory.

the mote or living part of us which travels the maze, and the greater awarness which encompasses the maze itself have distinctly different energies.
the totality of the latter is described by the carving of the former.
even though both reflect the levels of attention.

sustained reaction .....

[Mornings Son]

Great illustration Rosy!
MESH what is it again, please?

[messengerpidgeon]

Advise . the walking of the path .

A double helix spiral type image , As

"notes"

Musical ,

The maze the path ,

Notes , transcendence ,

Arrangement .

Viewing notes instead of four four timing in two dimensional ,

Requires viewing standing " upright" spiral from a position of musical awareness with structure

Of arrangement upstanding .

multiple arrangement perception allowing seeing through multiple tune ,
" suspended judgement" " awareness"

Engaging energetic gears , Arrival of larger perception ,
Accompanied. By ability to maintain gear , ability by suspension or "engagement " via scale climbing arrangement .

Color spectrum , fire , accompanyment , to engage , being ability to follow intent .
Of energy body " spectrum"

Fire "equal" dreaming / stalking ability , to capture without capturing / release .

[Guest]