The Sorcerer's Apprentice

[docta lee]

Have any of you had the chance to read "The Sorcerer's Apprentice" by Amy Wallace?.




This is a very good book and it gives the reader a glimpse into the wierd world of Carlos.




She was part of his inner circle and one of his many sex partners.




If you really are into CC you would be a fool not to read it.




READ IT...IT;S WORTH IT!


Thanks

[grandspeculator]

docta lee wrote:



Have any of you had the chance to read "The Sorcerer's Apprentice" by Amy Wallace?.




This is a very good book and it gives the reader a glimpse into the wierd world of Carlos.




She was part of his inner circle and one of his many sex partners.




If you really are into CC you would be a fool not to read it.




READ IT...IT;S WORTH IT!


Thanks



That book shows the real scope of how developed Carlos was as a Nagual. For me it was a confirmation of my first guess with Carlos: His tonal
delusions, ambitions and indulgences destroyed him.




He should have stick with the Datura sorcery... at least to live like a powerful sorcerer instead of a weak men of knowledge.




As for Don Juan's opinion of the Devil's Weed, It certainly didn't hurt Nagual Julian and aparently loved Carlitos.

[Blue totem]

If I remember well, Amy Wallace hates Carlos`s guts.

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[artwarrior]

Hey all at Seperate Reality,




I found this site from PP from seeing some of Grandspec's posts of late. This book by Amy Wallace, I have not read, it is alway unavailable to me on
amazon, out of print ect. It is curious to me that I never can get my hand on it, maybe some part of me doesn't want to burst my bubble about CC.
Grandspec, your posts were very clear, I was reading PP and came across that conflict with Tiffany and Ninth, and quite frankly I was a bit shocked by all the
nastiness, but we all do have it in us. I must say that both of them have been wonderful to me, the few times I have posted, and as I read along that thread
of conflict I actually wondered if it was a setup, a script, to show us how petty we could be. What do you think? Artwarrior

[grandspeculator]

artwarrior wrote:

Hey all at Seperate Reality,




I found this site from PP from seeing some of Grandspec's posts of late. This book by Amy Wallace, I have not read, it is alway unavailable to me on
amazon, out of print ect. It is curious to me that I never can get my hand on it, maybe some part of me doesn't want to burst my bubble about CC.
Grandspec, your posts were very clear, I was reading PP and came across that conflict with Tiffany and Ninth, and quite frankly I was a bit shocked by all
the nastiness, but we all do have it in us. I must say that both of them have been wonderful to me, the few times I have posted, and as I read along that
thread of conflict I actually wondered if it was a setup, a script, to show us how petty we could be. What do you think? Artwarrior
It is scripted... but not by us. Tiffany and Ninth are nice persons, but they have their self-important tonals... and that speaks about them as
naguals or spiritual beings.




As you might have noticed, she didn't bother to read and understand my arguments at all. She has a tonal-delusion to defend, by all means.




My personal recomendation for the sober wannabe-nagual is staying away from forums. They are not evolutionary. Be close to nature, open yourself to power.
Clear your personal history. Be a sober tonal and a benefactor will come to you.

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[grandspeculator]

Grand,...let me put it this way...I had enough of you...Change your bloody avatar before I get really bored with this issue...I ain't hurting you this
time and no one else is so don't play the poor sad puppy...You don't dare to try again you know what cause I might hurt your pathetic ass for
real...I am not joking Joker so you'd better listen...Remember last time you tryed that what happened? Just don't...I am warning you DO NOT TAKE YOUR
OWN MISERABLE LIFE OR I GUARANTEE YOU'LL BE SORRY OR SOWRY HEY MAYBE EVEN BOTH...
What? My double bothered you? It's possible... I was pissed because of one of your harsh answers to me, but I'am unable to do anything to
anyone at this point... good or bad. I can't hurt anyone.




Perhaps you are paranoid... I don't know. I followed you to PP out of boredom and ended up with Tiff bitching about me.




Would you take a life over so little? Whatever. I was also an egyptian seer, you know? You and your brother whoever he is don't seem to be working for the
intent of the spirit. How could you possibly see clearly with such a violent nature?




You are high and mighty? Heal me then. I dare you. Killing is fairly easy. I was a healer then... I'll probably end up as a healer now.




Anyway... if you are going to make such a big deal over a freaking picture or an unstable double proyection I'll indulge your wish. Upasni is back. As for
the other "pathetic creature" he can handle himself.




Finally I'll take this as a rather dramatic omen that I should leave the forum thingy once and for all. For sometime I needed a good excuse. The first one
came with your "kind" *** off long before... but I didn't listen then.




Time to move on. Not a moment to soon.

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[Hawkeye Crow]

Some of this is such a reflection of what I go through on a daily basis , especially lately. I do believe that one of the most difficult tasks on the
Warrior's Path is to not react to insults, and not get angry. Finding a strategy is a solution but can also be difficult, at least without instruction.
Mostly, I stay quiet and go on about my business until Spirit opens a way. As well, I guess it helps to remember that I , too, began from a place of
self-importance, and can only sigh at those still afflicted with it.




These forums have been helpful in my understanding of the Toltec teachings , if only to form my thinking in exchanges with others as I post. Unless I'm
bored ,or worse, disturbed about something , I usually pass by nonsense and hostility , here.




And, Docta Lee, I am always interested in new books. I'll keep it in mind. However , I am long convinced that Castaneda is not an issue. The issue is ,
do the statements resonate with my true mind? Are the tales of don Juan wisdom, or not? Can I verify by my own experience , or that of others besides
Carlos Castaneda?

[dreamways]

PerSyd wrote:


Ya Grand....do not defy us again or we will make you sowry or sorry...pass it to the other pathetic creature....
















PerSyd should change her avatar to Plankton. She has the same kind grandiose and delusional thinking.

[dreamways]

PerSyd wrote:

Yooooooooouu hoooooooooooooo Foooooooooooooool you are on the wrong side tooooooooooooooooooo...


Yoooooooooou'd better crawl back in back in heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeere before i make yoooooooooou sawry and sorry


I will rip your fuckin balls off then shove them up your ass... again.


Saint Nicholas sowry...Nicolette...


I am starting countdown:


3


2


1








PerSyd is a great example of what happens when you let psychotic people have access to the internet.

[ARNWAY]

To be a warrior into the unknown world outside of the F.I. an individual has to have the right temperament of character, sobriety, detachment and unbending
intent to go through the cosmic vagina to venture without untold harm and talk of bullshit is only a reflection of someone not ready to proceed onto the
warriors way, otherwise if you go through the cosmic vagina you will be covered with vaginal cheese and make your energy body skanky.




Sad but true, humorous or not you will be a dead fish caught in a net unless you swim up the right stream to the source of our origin.

[docta lee]

Thanks Hawkeye


I like what you wrote


The book is good, you get a inside kind of view so to speak of CC's world with the witches


Later

[docta lee]

Yo PerSyd!


what is your major malfuction man? are you like angry or hurt or something....you dont frighten me sista/brother.










Yooooooooouu hoooooooooooooo Foooooooooooooool you are on the wrong side tooooooooooooooooooo...


Yoooooooooou'd better crawl back in back in heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeere before i make yoooooooooou sawry and sorry


I will rip your fuckin balls off then shove them up your ass... again.


Saint Nicholas sowry...Nicolette...


I am starting countdown:


3


2


1

[docta lee]

Hi PerSyd!


oh sorry i forgot you are a true vulgarian LOL!...keep it up...see where it gets you.


I have nothing against you.....but why are your responses so nasty....it's bizarre....maybe you like to be perceived that way.




Good luck




Lee

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