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I'm sorry, underground was misleading.
But the way *I* say it, at least... there are "solar" and "lunar" practices. Solar as in, bright light of day, using your real name, everyone can see you. Lunar as in dark, hidden, mysterious, unclear boundaries, anonymous.
The "real" shamanism isn't either.
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So what is "real" shamanism?
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A wise person once told me that if you only do your magick underground, in a highly protected ritual chamber, pretty soon you start to notice that it ONLY WORKS underground, in highly protected ritual chambers.
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Le_Regard wrote:
I'm sorry, underground was misleading.
But the way *I* say it, at least... there are "solar" and "lunar" practices. Solar as in, bright light of day, using your real name, everyone can see you. Lunar as in dark, hidden, mysterious, unclear boundaries, anonymous.
The "real" shamanism isn't either.
That's OK, I understood your meaning. But it is great to be aware of how you use words. A good quality to have imo.
I also understand what you mean by solar and lunar.. but.. how I have seen it is also both at the same time  . Only those who are able can see into the lunar parts. There is a face shown to the world and a face only those who can will see no matter what.
These kinds of natural protection is what I respect most.
I am not so much into these hidding for dear life kinda systems. That is why I never found home in the magic societies - and I come from a place where this has a loooong traidtion. It is just that they are so obsessed with hiding, it is morbid, it takes unnecessary attention and awareness. And I have seen people hiding in plain sight with no effort at all - and imo that is the better way to do it  .
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Le_Regard wrote:
A wise person once told me that if you only do your magick underground, in a highly protected ritual chamber, pretty soon you start to notice that it ONLY WORKS underground, in highly protected ritual chambers.
Yep, I totally see the sense in that .
And I love that you seem to be contradicting yourself now... (what you wrote about how one has to decide at some point to stay underground)
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watergaze wrote:Le_Regard wrote:
A wise person once told me that if you only do your magick underground, in a highly protected ritual chamber, pretty soon you start to notice that it ONLY WORKS underground, in highly protected ritual chambers.
Yep, I totally see the sense in that .
And I love that you seem to be contradicting yourself now... (what you wrote about how one has to decide at some point to stay underground)That was unintentional. If I could edit in this thread I would fixed it. What I meant IF IT STAYS UNDERGROUND it stays that way because it chose to, not because vampires burn up in the sunlight
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Obviously the subtext here is if someone can't ALSO handle a day job like a normal person and if handling a hot stove is like, an extraordinary accomplishment, then maybe that's not the best thing it's possible to be. Maybe that's not actually what God looks likes.
I used to have a full time job where they trusted me with an assault rifle and live ammunition by the way... so I know something about that.
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I love contradictions - sometimes - because it shows how elusive language can be. As in, your meaning was clear when I read your post but then the other clear meaning resulted in a contradiction .
You cannot edit? Damn this tapatalk thing. The settings clearly state that everyone should be able to edit their posts for a period of 4 hours. aaargh. no wonder you make so many posts in succession - and I thought you were just being a pain-in-the-butt and not wanting to make reading threads easier on people and sync with our guidelines. Sry for assuming. I am gonna try to resolve this editing thing once and for all by getting the help people involved. damn, so many things on my to do list already...
(editing that contradiction now would not be good though, editing only works well if you notice it before people respond to it and use it to make comments)
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watergaze wrote:I love contradictions - sometimes - because it shows how elusive language can be. As in, your meaning was clear when I read your post but then the other clear meaning resulted in a contradiction .
You cannot edit? Damn this tapatalk thing. The settings clearly state that everyone should be able to edit their posts for a period of 4 hours. aaargh. no wonder you make so many posts in succession - and I thought you were just being a pain-in-the-butt and not wanting to make reading threads easier on people and sync with our guidelines. Sry for assuming. I am gonna try to resolve this editing thing once and for all by getting the help people involved. damn, so many things on my to do list already...It's actually different between threads. Some threads I can edit in and some I can't. I haven't really looked into it but I think it's probably some kind of individual forum setting.
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To me solar and lunar have to do with direct and indirect intention. Lunar takes the direct power of intent and involves it in metaphorical applications like rings, temples, words/chanting/spells, rituals...that kind of thing. So, its an analog of what the light of the moon is in terms of a reflection of the sun's light. The moon really has no light of its own, in that respect.
Solar is simply power as a direct reflection of alignment with intent. One become a clear lens for that power, without diverting that power via mirrors, tunnels, refraction...though, if you think about it, prismatic refraction/reflection can be a beautiful thing, if it doesn't stray/divert/refract to such an extent that the source gets lost in the "house of mirrors" so to speak
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aah, ok, I guess I know how this happened, but have no clue how to fix it... so yea help-people needed.
In the setting for the whole board I set this editing limit of 4 hours. But before tapatalk we were on yuku and this subforum - Mastering Awareness - had a special no editing no deleting setting. So somehow these old setting got tranfered in a way that is overriding the board editing limit setting. Still, there is no place to go to to unclick 'no edit' and 'no delete' for mastering awarenes (as one would on the yuku board). I hate this transition bs. Now it stopped the flow of our discussion.
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yay, glance to the rescue
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glance left wrote:
To me solar and lunar have to do with direct and indirect intention. Lunar takes the direct power of intent and involves it in metaphorical applications like rings, temples, words/chanting/spells, rituals...that kind of thing. So, its an analog of what the light of the moon is in terms of a reflection of the sun's light. The moon really has no light of its own, in that respect.
when you say it like this then it even seems common sense that there would be no lunar without the solar (talking about communities/systems now - as we were talking about above). There would be no light reflecting from the luna if there were no sunny part...
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glance left wrote:Solar is simply power as a direct reflection of alignment with intent. One become a clear lens for that power, without diverting that power via mirrors, tunnels, refraction...though, if you think about it, prismatic refraction/reflection can be a beautiful thing, if it doesn't stray/divert/refract to such an extent that the source gets lost in the "house of mirrors" so to speak
I find also that it would be selfish to just be in lunar mode / mood. The solar is what warms the world .
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It's also just THE SUN. The orange thing in the sky that comes up every morning so you can see clearly and are less afraid of monsters now.
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You have to watch out for clouds still, but just can't trust the Moon the way you can trust the Sun. It keeps disappearing and starting over backwards.
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and enticing water to try to fly
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The moon controls the tides and the sun warms Earth. Both are so beautiful.
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Speaking of harvesting power... and this actually really true, I'm really telling the truth here with God and Country as my witnesses, I need to drop out of this now because I am going downtown because my monthly Communist Party USA meeting starts at noon.
www.cpusa.org
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Believe or not I've been putting a lot of time and energy lately into transforming CPUSA into the party of choice for witches, shamans, magicians, initiates, and sorcerers of all kinds.
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I mean... check it out. The Communist Party is supposed to be the vanguard. They're supposed to be, and I swear this is true, allowing for the fact that Lenin said it first in Russian anyway, the Party is meant to be "the most spiritually advanced segment of the working class".
And honestly... don't you think that's you?
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watergaze wrote:
yay, glance to the rescue
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glance left wrote:
To me solar and lunar have to do with direct and indirect intention. Lunar takes the direct power of intent and involves it in metaphorical applications like rings, temples, words/chanting/spells, rituals...that kind of thing. So, its an analog of what the light of the moon is in terms of a reflection of the sun's light. The moon really has no light of its own, in that respect.
when you say it like this then it even seems common sense that there would be no lunar without the solar (talking about communities/systems now - as we were talking about above). There would be no light reflecting from the luna if there were no sunny part...
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glance left wrote:Solar is simply power as a direct reflection of alignment with intent. One become a clear lens for that power, without diverting that power via mirrors, tunnels, refraction...though, if you think about it, prismatic refraction/reflection can be a beautiful thing, if it doesn't stray/divert/refract to such an extent that the source gets lost in the "house of mirrors" so to speak
I find also that it would be selfish to just be in lunar mode / mood. The solar is what warms the world .
 Yeah, lunar is cool....beautiful....mysterious. But can become dark and morose if "turned away" from the sun, its sole source of power, too much. Just like magical systems become dark and deranged the more they get diverted and diverted and diverted from the direct source. (Just an interpretation, ofc ) This plays into the phases of the moon, too...in a way if you think about it.
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Pixie Dust wrote:
The moon controls the tides and the sun warms Earth. Both are so beautiful.
Agree. Meant to go hand in hand
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Ultimately the solar without the lunar would be like a glorious, perfect city... without any actual people in it.
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Le_Regard wrote:Ultimately the solar without the lunar would be like a glorious, perfect city... without any actual people in it.and vice-versa
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Le_R wrote:the Party is meant to be "the most spiritually advanced segment of the working class".
And honestly... don't you think that's you?
lol, thankfully I do not suffer from such self-inflated ideas (of me being the most spiritually advanced segment of anything)
I was not aware that Lenin talked about spiritual advancement... I'm not that much into politics/history... but gotta admit it sounds interesting (for a separate thread). Maybe you can raise our awareness on communist spiritual awareness - from my experience, it was not very advanced, that is, in actual reality. But the ideas behind it were probably a lot more enlightened.
As I learned recently (while looking into Shakespeare's sonnets), hip hip also links to spiritual enlightenment. Who knew? lol...
"The 'hip' comes from the Wolof (a Senegalese language) word 'hipi,' meaning 'to open one's eyes and see' as a term of enlightenment. The word 'hop' from the English signifying movement, thus 'hip hip' means intelligent movement. Hip hop contains 5 elements (as codified by its founding founders in New York City): Djing, MCing, break dancing, graffiti art and the fifth element - Knowlege." (Akala)
Ofc the representatives of hip-hop today mostly know diddly squat about these enlightenment roots/ideas and how it all began and what was the aim of it all. At least, I doubt there are many artists today who are popular and get their hands dirty with some enlightenment and knowledge in their hip-hop (otherwise I doubt I'd just want them to shut up whenever I hear them).
So yea, communism in its idea stage was also quite something else... and has a great side that sadly did not make it into full reality (there it reared quite a different type of head - yep, it's the power hungry people who are to blame).
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