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The Indescribable Force
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#52
Well, the irony is that the dove (holyl spirit) represents the ineffable aspect of Christianity....which is really the ineffable aspect of any religion/lineage and so on....so, amateurish or not, it seems he'll be led home if the sincerity that brought him to that moment is sustained. 

Just an amateur guess on my part Smile
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#53
glance left wrote:
Well, the irony is that the dove (holyl spirit) represents the ineffable aspect of Christianity....which is really the ineffable aspect of any religion/lineage and so on....so, amateurish or not, it seems he'll be led home if the sincerity that brought him to that moment is sustained. 

Just an amateur guess on my part Smile

I thought about this, and I don't think anything you can symbolize with a dove is properly ineffable.
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#54
*shrug*
https://allpoetry.com/poems/about/Dove
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#55
By the way, I never realized until RIGHT NOW the poetic contrast between white doves and black crows.  Doves seem to represent innocence and lightness of spirit whereas crows are more into picking at dead things.
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#56
Crows, to me, represent the application of Spirit to the corporeal....i.e. ingenuity that draws its resource from the ineffable
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#57
glance left wrote:
Crows, to me, represent the application of Spirit to the corporeal....i.e. ingenuity that draws its resource from the ineffable

lol crows are scavengers and they draw their resources from wherever they can find them, including the dead
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#58
I just learned this, this was unknown to me until about 10 minutes ago, but apparently crows actually EAT THE EGGS OF OTHER BIRDS right out of their nests.


"A frequent nest predator, the American Crow eats the eggs and nestlings of many species including sparrows, robins, jays, terns, loons, and eiders. "

https://www.allaboutbirds.org/guide/ame ... ifehistory#
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#59
See here's the thing, I can't describe the indescribable force, obviously, it's not describable, obviously, it's in the name, but if you get me started I have the whole internet to do research with and I can totally describe the **** out of some crows
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#60
" Often admired for their intelligence, American Crows can work together, devise solutions to problems, and recognize unusual sources of food. Some people regard this resourcefulness and sociality as an annoyance when it leads to large flocks around dumpsters, landfills, and roosting sites; others are fascinated by it. "
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Le_Regard wrote:
glance left wrote:
Crows, to me, represent the application of Spirit to the corporeal....i.e. ingenuity that draws its resource from the ineffable

lol crows are scavengers and they draw their resources from wherever they can find them, including the dead

Exactly
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#62
glance left wrote:
Le_Regard wrote:


lol crows are scavengers and they draw their resources from wherever they can find them, including the dead

Exactly

Do you know you're the only person on this board who consistently makes any sense to me?
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#63
I talk circles around chaos.  I've been doing this for years.  You can't talk about chaos.  Even calling it CHAOS is totally cheating.  You CAN talk spirals around it, however, until a finger pointing at the moon is *good enough*.  The moon is obviously THERE, you both obviously see it, call it whatever you like because it's fucking THERE and everyone agrees.

It hasn't been described... but it has been POINTED AT, and there it is, and if you can see it you see it and if it's invisible it is still invisible.

More often than not, people just get mad at you for using the wrong words, or for your map of the moon being done in a different color scheme than their map of the moon, or just saying CHAOS when they prefer something else.

Sometimes they say you're "changing the subject", because they can't follow where you're leading.  But the worst, the absolute worst, is when they give you a patronizing lecture on how the finger pointing at the moon is not the moon itself.
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#64
"I had recently found a trick to manifest a good day for myself with a glass of water (speaking my intention to the water then drinking it)....then I opened the bible just to see what page it landed out out of curiosity and oddly enough it oppened up to a page that described how to curse someone the same way (with water)."

LOL!  That's actually pretty hilarious Big Grin 

Yeah, intent is beyond good an evil...and thus can be used to bless or curse, I suppose.  I'd rather bless, if I had a choice.  But, beyond that, I'd rather let intent choose its focus.

But still....I think I'll intend good things (in strictly an abstract, detached, nonlinear way Smile ) while drinking water today

Thanks, Atlantean!
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#65
Le_Regard wroteBig Grino you know you're the only person on this board who consistently makes any sense to me?
That is because you consistently talk to about 3 people on this board Wink. (And no, that is not the number of people that consistently come and share here)

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Atlantean1 wrote:I had recently found a trick to manifest a good day for myself with a glass of water (speaking my intention to the water then drinking it)...
Ha! I 'discovered' this same trick for the starting of my day. But kinda forgot about it when I was in 'no-time-to-sleep-mode' which is like the worst time to stop doing something so useful Smile. Thnx for the reminder. 
And, again, I am reminded how practical these things are. This is something I recognize in what you said somewhere else around this site... the practicality of stuff is what I appreciate and love about shamanism too Smile.
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