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Nagual Consciousness
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~Nagual Consciousness does NOT make correct or incorrect
choices regarding the mind/body. Nagual Consciousness makes NO choices at all,
because it lives in absolute CERTAINTY. In certainty, there is NO NEED to
choose. Every thought you think MUST be in the mind, because it has always been
certain that you would think it. Therefore, it follows that every action is
performed as it MUST. There is no disparity between the certainty of Nagual
Consciousness and the body’s acting in accordance to that certainty, since the
body is only an egocentric idea. In the certainty of Nagual Consciousness, no
choices NEED be made, because all choices have been made as ONLY they could
have been made.
Free-will asserts that there is an autonomous “I-me” that makes choices free of
influence and free of the casual WILL that directs the entire universe.
Free-will asserts that there is some autonomous ‘being’ in your brain, that
“you” refer to as your “self,” that volitionally chooses thoughts before you
think them and that your life is completely under the control of a WILL that is
owned or ‘possessed’ by that autonomous 'chooser.' Free-will asserts that
thoughts don’t just arise, but that you have a personal responsibility to
choose the ‘right’ thoughts before you think them and all your life you have
been taught which thoughts are ‘right’ and which are ‘wrong.’ Free-will
automatically claims that if you have a thought that is ‘wrong,’ and
subsequently act on that electro-chemical impulse, you are personally
responsible, because you should not have allowed that thought to arise the
moment it did. Certain neurons should not fire and others should.


Nagual Consciousness (Buddha Mind, no-mind, or whatever you wish
to label it) realizes that every thought that arises must have arisen exactly
as it did, directed by a WILL not your own and that “you” are not free from.

The very thought you just now had, was simply waiting to arise since the
beginning of time. Centuries of preceding activities and situations had to
occur, and trillions and trillions of other thoughts had to arise, in other
minds, for you to have the very thought you are having right…now. There is no
chance, coincidence or uncertainty to a predetermined causal order that
continues to infinitely unfold in your head.
Nagual Consciousness exists in the certainty that every choice made had to be
made exactly as it was and every choice that will be made will unfold exactly
as it must. Egocentric free-will must always be uncertain; because it believes
it has a choice in what unfolds and can direct a ‘self’ outside the WILL of a
predetermined causal universe.


Yet, when you understand that every choice made had to be
made exactly as it was, what could you be uncertain about?

For centuries, the unawakened and progressively more unaware, egocentrica
mammalia, has done everything possible to achieve certainty in his choices,
only to become more uncertain as the social fictions and cultural fantasies
that guide his choices become more and more complex and contradictory. He
constructs huge centers of higher learning in order to increase his certainty
of purpose, whilst the ‘self’ constructed fictions all around him begin to
dissolve into chaotic obscurity. “I must learn more!” he exclaims, while his
brain clamors for freedom from the mess of his own tangled neuro-circuitry and
the 'thoughts' that arise from it. More and more “knowledge” only confirms the
utter uncertainty of his existence and seems to remove him further from the
predetermined causal universe, even though being separate from that causal
whole is impossible.

The delusion is that your life should be different and that you can change it.
The delusion is that in this very moment you should be doing something
different from what you are doing and this delusion is as much a part of the
causal unfolding as any other part, until it’s gone.

What you’re doing in this moment is exactly what you’re supposed to be doing.
Whether you’re mindlessly masturbating to porn, while pumping down a sixpack of
Bud, or actively and sincerely seeking to achieve “no-mind,” by meditating for
many hours every day, neither choice is better or worse than the other.
Whichever choice you have made is exactly what you should be doing simply
because you ARE doing it, otherwise, based on a predetermined causal universe
that you are totally enmeshed in and flowing with, you would be doing something
else.


In an infinitely unfolding predetermined causal universe,
the meditation master is no different or better than the beer guzzling pervert.

In a predetermined causal universe, masturbation and meditation hold no special
significance to a causal order that values nothing over anything else, simply
because it allows ALL to unfold and be experienced. Happiness and suffering are
equally valuable to a predetermined causal order that allows both to be
experienced. In the “Oneness” of a predetermined causal universe, life and
death are not opposites, but equal in value.

Of course, to egocentrica mammalia, this idea sucks, because everybody knows
meditation is more valuable than masturbation. He believes that life is more
valuable than death and that a “happy” life is better than one full of
suffering.

The non-duality of Nagual Consciousness equalizes all opposites. Death and
destruction are as much a part of the causal universe as life and construction.
Hence, when all values exist in a non-dual equality, choices are no longer made
based on free-will, but are just simply made with the understanding that they
must be made exactly as they will be made.


Valuing one thing over another is also part of the causal
order, until the ‘chooser’ disappears, never to be experienced again, while
choices still continue to be made as they always have.

A lot of folks are getting close to this, based on their suffering from the
Symptoms of Approach. These symptoms are outside your capacity to control and
you will most likely seek relief from them as they can be quite uncomfortable
and even frightening.

When the fictional realities of a fictional ‘self’ living in a fictional social
order, along with other fictional selves, begins to lose value and recede, a
deep sense of depression results, since there are progressively less anchor
points for the fictional ‘self’ to actualize itself as real. In addition, a
tendency to isolate may become demonstrative due to the extreme discomfort of
participating in socially scripted interactions, through meaningless roles,
masks and gestures. You may gradually find yourself no longer caring about
things others find immensely important. None of this can be explained to
anyone, because they do not see what you see. Marriages fail, friends fade
away, as relationships become almost impossible to maintain. Many things may
drop to the wayside, family, activities, hobbies, interests, desires, goals,
aspirations, etc, and other things may require seemingly super human effort to
even engage at all (socializing becomes a test of endurance). But you’re not
approaching some watered down version of truth, but the brute, raw reality of
your existing non-existence.

This path to awakening can be a lonely one indeed and some have yet to realize
they are on this path. But you have never had a choice in this. You are not the
driver and only along for the ride.

The Symptoms of Approach merely indicate that you are coming closer to a
complete neuro-circuit overload. A frying of the mother board, burning up
useless circuitry in a total shock to the system. This is not a brain disorder
like Alzheimer’s, but simply the natural discontinuation of electro-chemical
current that fires up circuits not related to truth. Yet, like Alzheimer’s, it
is simply not under your control to alter or change in any way and all efforts
to do so have been predetermined as part of the causal universe.

You cannot “choose” to take this path, because in a predetermined causal
universe, all choices have already been made. There is nothing you can do to
alter this path. You cannot slow it down or speed it up. However, all attempts
to do so are part of the process and choosing to medicate the symptoms is also
part of the process. This may ebb and flow, over many years, in fluctuating
waves of engaging the process and running from it in fear, in moving forward
only to quickly pull back again. You have been on this path since before you
were born. Advancing toward emptiness can be a very frightening experience and
many have compared it to death, because it emphasizes the nothingness of all
values currently held dear.


In order to get to nothing, you must first be disillusioned
by everything and that’s not a good feeling (for all the bliss bunnies out
there).

There must be a shock to the system, a complete overhaul of perspective, a
gradual frying of the mother board toward the realization that there is no
free-willed, autonomous self making choices of its own volition, free and
separate from the WILL of a predetermined causal universe.

I mean, think about it…

Who really wants to achieve that kind of certainty, in which everything you
were once “certain” about is completely null and void?

I didn’t.

I wanted “bliss.”

In the end, you will ‘die’ and you will “know,” nothing more than you now know
in this very moment and…

…that's “totality of self.”
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#2
where is the fun in it ? I see none.
At least some real heart-grasping juice is it here ?
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#3
okay, I will die... what happens next ?
I will know until the moment I die, than no knowing...like never ? seems like madness to me...
These are still two sides of a coin. knowing and unknowing.. like diing I mean
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#4
*please delete my posts here they are of no value towards what was written.
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#5
I was like,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... 1ecmXovQuQ

bad... Then I was like!

Then I felt like,, really that shat again ?

Ten I was like this
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