Inner Silence University

[glance left]

LOL...thanks for the encouragement, Nima

[nima]

I Think It is important to figure out how your mind works.that is to understand the patterns used by the flyer to control what you think and don't think about.

This is what i have understood from observing the mind patterns while trying to shut the internal dialog- the most obvious thing is that it does not like the present moment. It loves the past and the future but shy's away from the "Now".Also it is very very very Quick.if you let your guard down It only requires 2 - 3 seconds in real time to bombard you with useless ****.

It also Love's Fantasy's and daydreaming one moment you are trying to silence your mind the next moment you find your self thinking about  stuff like oh so how would my piss look like while jumping being in moon with no gravity - the most random stupid stuff that you can imagine and it is mostly based on self importance something that the bastard thrives on. But this is the easy part.with concentrating on counting or breath it takes usually 5 - 10 min to make  the surface mind go away.
The next part is when you are about to be competently silence and empty . Then what happens is the flyer opens the "Secret Drawer" were the most sacred memory's and images are hidden and how it is displayed  to you is by flashes of very fast rapid images .It is like the flyer is fishing if you get hooked by it the image it grows bigger and bigger and you will start to think about it and get totally lost in it.

Well this is what i have gotten so far about the patterns. felt sharing it :

[fabs]

I used to have a good of silence but mostly after meditation, practice, movements etc...then it faded out gradually.
At some point I decided with all my intent that from now on I was on constant inner silence and presence, no more 'later', 'after work', 'when I have holidays'. I also stopped movements...and this is the difference that really had results for me.

When I catch myself I just correct immediately but because and my intent to do it 100% won't change

and I know the practice does not have an end so I just let go of my inner dialogue by believing it is easy because it would be too much to be in constant effort all the time.

[shamanka]

the hours put into using 2nd attention, either by dreaming awake, stalking, gazing or any other such practice, determine the ratio of usage vs first attention.

see the combined whole as a cake, the more you spend in using your energy body, the more you can place the tonal or first attention, as a small slither of the cake. with constant usage the mind understands and aquieses to this smaller and smaller role..eventually it quiets as it waits for you to use perception instead of its 'reasoning'.

no good scolding the mind, after all you made it...

[NagualHuman]

The Tonal is by its essence solid(egoistic) and talking the Nagual by its essence is fluid and all-embracing and silent like the Dakness and Light
We as human must use both of these of make ourselves efficient in any task and goal we are to accomplish, and its essential to keep balance to not "overuse" and give value to any both of these, the problem is that amount of people by the fact that they live their lives mostly by the tonal they get "fucked up" by it, and so they need to meditate, stop that dialogue and other practices to do some balance, but I as a Nagual has mastered both of these and I am switching these two sides of our luminous eggs as most I need to keep fluid exchange of energy with to world which allows me to accumulate more and more power by every second. Its like that we breath in and exhale, its like Darkness and Light, its like having eye open and closing the eye.

The death in its nature is dissolving and have the effect that its dissolve us into the naguality alias non-personality, and we as humans as living beign who wants to fly through eternity must keep clear and in balance both of these to achieve more and more power and abilities. The thing is that we as living and by nature more tonalistic beigns than nagualistic, our quest is to keep our tonal and expand it over the naguality the unknown, to enhace our powers and good-beign, and the trick we must do to fly through the eternity is to be completely in nagual to expand exponencialy but it is by same value important to keep a little of ego, that could sustain our person as infinite beign across the infinity, that means the tonal must expand and must be supported by the naguality for exponencial growth of our value in the eyes of the eagle alias personal power.
This is what every beign must do to pass through the eagle, to keep a little of ego -of himself that is able to withstand the power of death and nagual and is still able to hold himself together and by that to not be dissolved by the unknown which by death of someone comes as all-embracing wave of unknown and for that we must be able to see our milimeter chance our milimeter possibility our milimeter ego which is able to hold our energy together while passing through eagle.
But I believe that already we live in infinity and that is the 3rd attention the balance of tonal and nagual, infinity is not passionate about anything it can choose any means necessary to sustain its infiniteness and its personality..... Same as the Universe is and same as the Time expands into infinity.

[glance left]

Sorry I've neglected this thread, y'all...thanks for the inpu everyone! SW (RM), NH, Fabs, Nima and Sham. Back to it....really the only pursuit that's found any sustainable traction in my recent years of "searching".... the cultivation of inner silence.

Inner silence......*sigh* ......such a simple, delightful, incalculable gift. Where else am I going to go? Where else to look? Nowhere but right here, as always. Silence, here and now...in this body, which is an ocean of awareness. Following Sham's tip, I'm enjoying this teacher's Youtube vids for the time being....Barry Long. Here's a nice one on Meditation.....diving deep, deep, deep into the vehicle of inner silence, the body

[delawaredan]

Hey Glance.... its good to see you around. I wanted to add some input from recent experiences. For the last few months I have found a new connection to silence that is far deeper than I ever felt before. At various times throughout the day I have an overwhelming sense of peace and satisfaction for existing. A profound internal rest where time standsstill and iI am one with spirit. It feels so simple...this peaceful silence that gives me energy and relaxes me at the same time. There is no such thing as the internal dialogue here. The simplicity is beautiful. Then when I have been given enough energy and my body/mind feels rested I enter dreaming awake and usey dreaming body. Internal silence is pivitol. It took me sooooo long to get to this point but there is probably so much deeper into silence I could go.

[glance left]

Thanks, Dan Yeah, I've touched upon these moments as well and am so thankful when I emerge there. I do everything in my power to put a flag pole there...intending to remember that state of simple, pure, power....clear, unobstructed awareness where thoughts are irrelevant. Where appreciation and awe flow freely. It's my intent, that space. It's the only "thing" I truly ever want

[Silver Wind]

So great to have you back Glance! I am glad you returned to this thread here to give it some TLC. Ha when I looked up at TV just now, saw this elephant figurine furnishing in this documentary called Worlds Greenest Houses. it's about energy efficiency and advancements in technology used in houses that support nature. Each episode goes into a house to show all the Eco features. Anyway, in this episode it says "are we not going to talk about the elephant in the room?" Because it's in the background of the camera scene. They go over to it and the house owner explains it's name is Gordo and was designed by a local sculptor. The host asks if they sit on it like a chair. Owner says no, but the children are allowed to pet it before bed which they do every night.

The elephant in the room here is silence - always present rarely discussed. And entering silence before sleep is one particular practice. Which brings up a point: some times during the day are better for silence. In the midst of emotional turmoil brought about by day to day circumstances, and during meditation ofc, and great vid you posted on that, ...and before bed. Just to name a few. So remembering to enter silence in the more crucial times alone can do wonders, even if one is not doing it all day. Gotta start somewhere, so some planning out of the "when to practice" times is useful. Over time and through practice one's intent becomes stronger, in the beginning a 'game plan' is needed to get there.

[glance left]

"Gordo" Grooming silence before we go to bed. Great reminder, SW.....thanks for sharing the synchronicity. I agree, having a game plan is key to keep the momentum rolling

[glance left]

Here's a technique I've found helpful in engendering and then sustaining inner silence....just some personal exploration...not to be taken as gospel or anything! It revolves around (pun intended ) putting the rational/categorizing part of the mind/being in its place...i.e. in the back seat, so to speak. There's a distinct feeling, as the left sided awareness gathers momentum (which it does via silence), of it beginning to wrap around the right side. I remember the left side of my luminous shell is the side associated with magic...with silence. The right side (which is dominant in modern man) is associated with logic...with routine....with fixating the assemblage point in place via familiarity/repetition. Nothing wrong with the right side except when it's had too much emphasis and thus imprisons us with its rationality. So, I seek to encourage the left side to step up...and the best way to do that is to bathe myself in silence, which is the stuff within which the left side operates.

One way to uphold the predominance of the left side is to feel a kind of expansion on the left side, as silence gathers momentum, which then curls out and around, like a mounting "tube" wave, to kind of wrap around the right side, creating this burka of awareness which holds the right side in place inside it. The right side is still operative, but it operates from within a surrouding cloud of silence. Silence has the upper hand. When I encourage this feeling of the left side wrapping around the right side...well, it seems easier to sustain silence that way

[Mornings Son]

glance left wrote:Welcome to Inner Silence University!  You made it...you're in...congratulations!   Here are some frequently asked questions for those freshmen just starting out in the university...or even those upper classmen who are re-entering studies to finish what they started.....
I.S.U.  What is it!?Inner Silence University is a long, challenging, but infinitely rewarding (no exaggerration!) program in which the syllabus for each of the classes is the same..freshman, sophmore, junior and senior years.     Every class is all about one simple assignment:  Sustaining Inner Silence.  That's it!  That's all.  Why?  Because graduates of this simple-yet-challenging program have the ticket to everything they ever wanted in terms of the warrior's pursuit.  To illustrate....a small quote from nagual Don Juan Matus in Carlos Castaneda's Power of Silence...
"Once inner silence is attained, everything is possible.  The way to stop talking to ourselves is to use exactly the same method used to teach us to talk to ourselves: we were taught compulsively and unwaveringly, and this is the way we must stop it:  compulsively and unwaveringly"
There it is..."everything is possible".  What an awesome prospect, don't you think?  Personally, I feel its worth the price of admission...the price of tuition...the price of time and sustained effort needed to graduate...to crystallize inner silence.  It may take years!  But who cares, right?  The prize at the end is so mind bogglingly valuable...the chance for our awareness to fully spread its wings..that I can think of nothing else worthy of such investment.  The ever-expanding riches of direct experience...direct experience of the nature that can only come with expanding awareness...which is, IMHO, the best kind of riches. 
What are the classes like!?Once matriculated here at Inner Silence University..the classes are compulsory.  The requirement, once we walk in the classroom, is simply this:  gentle, persistent sustained effort.  No matter how many times we fail...we get up...dust ourselves off....and renew our efforts to inner silence.  And then, in the interest of collaborative support...collaborative intent to defeat the flyer....we can share our findings...where we got trapped...where we got distracted or lost. We also can share our victories, no matter how small...indicators of silence gathering momentum and saving energy...renewing our personal power...refreshing our link with intent.  Anything is game here as long as helping each other sustain inner silence is at the heart of it's intent.  Any technique to help foster inner silence is welcome. 
What is the I.S.U. really about?!
Great question!.  The cool thing about I.S.U. is that all of the goings-on of its students here will be intimately associated with a magical covert ops military research project as well.  Personal experiences will be saved and then compiled in the the World Wide Warriors' bank of intel whose sole purpose is to free humanity from the invading network of the foreign installation. 
Who in the hell are the World Wide Warriors?In a word, they rock!!  They are the conglomerate of warriors, world wide, from many different spiritual traditions, who are fighting for freedom from the foreign installation..that thing that's feeding on humanity's energy by inciting self indulgent thought processes which stir up flares of emotion which foreign installation (otherwise known as "the flyer") feeds upon.  These thought processes are the source of every squabble, every heated disagreement, every contentious event, every war. 
"Flyers" Wow...they sound creepy!  What do we know so far about getting rid of them? 
Well, in terms of getting rid of the flyer, inner silence is the key in a nutshell That's why we've instituted I.S.U.!!  Inner silence is the magic bullet for the foreign installation, since the FI lives in our thoughts. It is the fundamental way of saving unfathomable amounts of energy...energy which is constantly drained by self importance.  We know that self importance is the over-riding mood of the internal dialog...and that the internal dialog is the heart and soul of the flyer's mind. Take away the nearly constant self-reflective thoughts? You take away its food..and it is a hungry, hungry critter. If that food is unavailable long enough, then it will leave and move on to find it elsewhere.  And when the flyer is no longer feeding on our energy, our energy returns...our clarity returns...our power returns...our potential for infinite possibility returns.  It's like the prodigal son finally comes home, and there's a feast that defies imagination! 
We also know that the FI is very tenacious...and sneaky.  It will use all manner of maneuvers and manipulations to get us thinking and flaring emotionally to provide food...including using other FI's attached to people we are involved with to stir up drama to get our FI active again.  The FI LOVES drama of all sorts...its like a feeding frenzy! LOL  It will actively incite drama to pull us in, if it can.  Look out!  
The good news is that silence, which is THE key to dislodging the FI, accrues bit by bit...whenever we employ it.  Even if only for a few seconds, it gets added to the whole of our silence.  So if we can employ silence deliberately for a few moments many times throughout the day, that is a huge step towards freedom...towards graduation day!  We can accrue this silence daily, here and there wherever we can, and soon...one day...that silence will begin accrue on its own...gather momentum, like compounding interest in a bank account.  It will gain mass...and gravity...and become easier and easier to sustain, if we can just persist through that difficulty beginning part...through the freshman and sophmore years, there about.   This is valuable, encouraging intel from those who have graduated...those alumni who have kicked off the flyer and who look back and are supporting those of us struggling through the early courses here at I.S.U.
There's more!  And the only way to find out is to start.  Anyone can contribute here...essays...blurbs....impressions..insights...failures...successes.  It's all good!  You're automatically "in" once you make a deliberate move towards sustaining inner silence in whatever you do...and you can stay if you continue to make efforts toward that intent.  Stay as long as it takes...study...compare notes...do your homework...and by all means graduate...and thus add to the overall blow for freedom for humans on this earth.  For the earth itself.  Join us please! The W.W.W. thanks you
Have not read further, but hope to find classes to take on )))) Exciting this is for the young Warrior apprentices  (that read this)

[Mornings Son]

As a laybrother in the Rinzai Zen Sect, Zazen has been my path to Inner Silence.
After years of practice... ppphhhh.... i found short moment of inner silence
There might be easier way, what do i know?

Here is my Teacher instructions on Zazen

[Billy]

Thank you for the good info here, especially the bringing in, wrapping a bodily sensation.

[glance left]

The key, now...for me...is wrapping around......what? Nothing. A hollow core through which awareness streams. An eddy. But it's not about me coming up with analogies, right now...drawing your attention to me in terms of my capacity to be noticed. It's about silently becoming aware of the reality of it...or unreality of it. So, again, my silence is the key, for me. I was being cute, before...with the whole ISU motif...trying to make it "fun". There's nothing wrong with me having fun, don't get me wrong. As long as the fun is grounded in my silent awareness. And i don't try to cling to these feelings that strangely come and go as I simply perpetuate my silence....because that's what they do....they come and go....for god-knows-why...its the strangest thing. One minute I'm happy....with this surge of energy...and the next, I feel something akin to doom. There doesn't seem to be any assurance of happy-ness, although I like it when it appears. But it doesn't stay. My silence seems to also bring this unnerving sensation...that is not very pleasant at all. Like I'm sinking into a hole...and there is no one there to lend a hand. There's no on there at all.

[glance left]

So the key, for me, is once I've started sinking into silence.....and I have....started sinking...the key is to not to claw at anything on the presumed banks of solidity. I mean A. Why waste the gd energy....it's just protracting the inevitable and B. Anything I TOUCH in this state turns to sand anyway, slowly but surely...which is creepier still. It's better to just wrap my arms around myself, pull together in the shape of a pin...and just sink right into the heart of it.

I like the backdrop of this page....seems fitting

[Mornings Son]

Glance Flyer don't like inner silence I heard, maybe they attack you to stop your practice?

[glance left]

Yeah, you heard right....Glance Flyer will do anything....anything!....to stop my silence...to stop my waking up. Because if I wake up....then no more flyer dreaming.

[serloco]

I have been kicking the **** out of a flier for the last couple of hours now. They tried to use my awareness and I said what life do you have? Are you living? because all you have is my own awareness in you that you try to use. You have nothing for yourself. Your attacks are my own spells and knowledge. And my life knows that I can form any life/awareness within me. I can just know that they are small, weak, empty, desperate beyond measure, he cries to me for mercy and begs not for oblivion. Don't you see they are empty, hollow beings, that feed off of awareness you have of them, control the awareness of them not as being powerful, but being empty, and needing, desperate and pathetic. Just watch them its coursing through them, watch them look to see if you believe them, or check to see if you do, with that hunger in them, that desperation. Whatever they try to tell you know that it is your power to set and place, your intent to set, and your awareness to position of anything. They do not ask, but demand, sometimes even in a shadowy way that can even appear looking real and truthful. I have found that these demands, and truths are really just lies, empty and formless unless you agree to them. its YOUR power they need, your awareness they eat. form awareness of them, for them, that hurts them if you want, or controls them, forms them etc. you can even form peace with them, form agreements, or truces. it is YOUR awareness that they eat. Just guide your own awareness, intend it precisely.

[Guest]