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Many years ago, when I first started doing lucid dreaming, and more importantly, going to the world of inorganic beings, I consulted with several local
healers about it. They all came to the same conclusion, that it was dangerous to hang out with inorganic beings. But, because it was just so darned easy to
travel to their world and they were just so friendly and helpful all the time, I decided to ignore the advice of people who are careful, and just go for it.
OK, I just wanna say that the healers were right and I was wrong for the record. No matter how slick a dreamer you might be, no matter how fast you can fly
out of this world and into another, it doesn't mean that you can't be tagged along the way. The inorganic beings told me that I was a
"Scout" almost immediately upon meeting them. They said I was a messenger, and they wanted me to be their messenger in particular. Eventually they
showed me that I was a double being as well, so I thought for sure that meant that I could become a nagual. But, they informed me that double scouts make
terrible naguals, that no existing nagual would ever be foolish enough to take me under their wing so to speak. So, I just settled for being a scout and
zipping around all of creation, trying to learn about every possible dream world and being out there. It took a toll of course, but I was so distracted that I
didnt notice until it was too late. I travelled to very bad places thinking I was immune to everything, but I wasn't. I guess I was trying to be the
Keith Richards of dreaming or something. Anyway, to make matters worse, I learned how to spy on people in dreaming, which I know sounds weird, but I had this
idea that I could sneak up on "masters" and watch them without being detected since I was a scout and that's sort of an ability of ours. The
trick is to travel within the boundry underneath where most people have their energy bodies or dreaming bodies, kind of a secret passage. Of course I got
caught a couple of times, its embarrassing to remember, I'll have to tell those tales if I ever get up the nerve. So, I was was on one of these dream
scouting trips on one occcassion, looking for a place where it might be possible to hide from the prying eyes, or at least ears, of other scouts, when I came
across none other than Mr. C. himself. Yep, I figured I had hit the motherlode on that one, I became totally obsessed with "the secret" place he
kept his energy body, and before I knew it I had gotten careless about covering my own ass. I've waited a long time, but just recently I started telling
people, one at a time, what I had observed Castaneda doing in dreaming, fearing that the secret might be lost with me. I'm not a nagual, but maybe there
is a nagual out there, maybe they can make use of the information. I can't do anyting substantial with it, I've tried. I kept an eye on Carlos'
energy body for years, and one thing is for sure, it never moved an inch the whole time. He had it parked in front of what initiallly looked like a huge, very
deep hole in the ground, like a tunnel entrance. Not only was he there, but Taisha, Florinda and Carol too. I figrued that they were there because it was
impossible for anyone to break into their dream from there or hear what they were talking about. The problem was, they never moved from that spot, so I became
suspicsious. I eventually came right up on them but they appeared to be in a trance, facing each other around the perimeter of the abyss. As I came up to the
edge, I bumped into something that had been invisible, it looked like a gigantic tree, about 20ft wide at the trunk, that occupied the hole in the ground. I
was like, omg, they are actually standing around a tree! So, I asked the inorganic beings what they were doing, and they said that they were channeling
energy, and the tree helped them. They said it was one of a handful of incredibly strong power spots that existed in the universe, so powerful that it was
actually sentient. They went on to say that human beings called it "the tree of life," and that it had been handed down to Castaneda through his
lineage of powerful sorcerers - of which he was the last. They showed me that if I looked at the tree from a different "angle" it appeared as a
giant ziggurat instead, but, mostly I see it as a tree. So, when Castaneda died, I saw his energy body depart from the tree and fly off, and the three witches
left as well. I tried to follow him but he went through a wall of fog and I lost track of his energy body. Then I went back to the tree and tried to make it
work, but nothing ever happened. Over a period of ten years, no matter what I tried or what other beings in dreaming helped me, nothing worked. Well, I'm
not a nagual so I don't know what I was expecting to happen, I guess it was pretty stupid actually. Just when I was ready to give up on the thing, some
inorangic beings of a type I rarely converse with, suddenly became very talkative. They asked me to activate the tree for them, since nobody else was using
it. They offered payment even. Needless to say, I had nothing better to do so I agreed. As soon as the thing kicked on, all of us became instantly aware
that my dreaming body was totally jacked up due to a critical lack of understanding I had about dreaming and energy. The inorganic beings are helping me as
best they can but I'm not too optimistic considering the damage. On a physical level my health is shot too, the inorganics say the physical problems are
caused by the energy body. So, here I am working for inorganic beings, babysitting a power spot, helping them transfer some energy through the tree, wondering
if ever a nagual like Carlos or his predecessors will ever return.
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Nagual LoneWolf wrote:
Dreamways...a powerful post and I thank you for sharing it here with us. Would you mind remaking it into a separate new post as it deserves to be see on its
own from those who come or will come. We here at Separate Reality used to meet at that tree in our dreaming group many years ago. There is a hole inside that
leads to the world of Atlantis, a place of two suns and green rolling hills. I have gone there using the tree many times. The tree holds all the separate
realities of earth in its folds.
Yes, I've caught glimpses of other worlds just by standing next to the tree, it seems to be a portal to many other places that I never even imagined
existed. To be honest, I don't usually approach the tree with my true dreaming body, instead I have learned to use the energy body that is associated with
my physical self to go there. I saw Castaneda do this and just automatically copied him. Its like I was hypnotized in a way, I mean it was just weird now
that I look back that I never analyzed the fact that I wasn't using my dreaming body. Now that I have realized what I've been doing all this time,
I'm starting to use my dreaming body to go to the tree instead. The tree looks totally different depending on which energy body that you use. I hope that
I can learn to dream through the tree like you have, I really want to meet the beings on the "other side." I was told that the tree can be used to
control how you reincarnate, so maye it should be called the tree of afterlife too.
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Hello
I read your topic and I am amased and curious. I`m not a lucid dreamer. I just started to look it up, but I`m nowhere near your stage. I try to go outside of
my body but I`m not able. I just started to try these things. I`ve read that there are many other worlds.
I`d like to go see one of those black domes.
How do you do it? I`ve read The Art of Dreaming, but all this is unclear to me. You have to find your hands when you dream right... Anyway, I`m shure there is
more to it than just finding your hands... Can you recommend a good book on the subject?
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Blue totem wrote:
Hello
I read your topic and I am amased and curious. I`m not a lucid dreamer. I just started to look it up, but I`m nowhere near your stage. I try to go outside of
my body but I`m not able. I just started to try these things. I`ve read that there are many other worlds.
I`d like to go see one of those black domes.
How do you do it? I`ve read The Art of Dreaming, but all this is unclear to me. You have to find your hands when you dream right... Anyway, I`m shure there
is more to it than just finding your hands... Can you recommend a good book on the subject?
If you have read Art of Dreaming and still have no luck with lucidity, I would suggest finding lucid dreamers that you can hang out with in person. Their
energy, which has been modified by lucid dreaming can rub off on you, that is, they may nudge your assemblage point.
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PerSyd wrote:
Interesting post dreamways. Nice to meet you.
Two days ago Nagual LoneWolf's post on a different thread reminded me of two events: a double rainbow I saw a few years back and my first
"seeing" in a dream experience. A tree. It appeared to me surrounded in an orange- reddish light, like it was on flames. I realized that it was not
burning it was simply...alive.
This image "stuck" because it unites them both: Yggdrasil and the double rainbow.
Greetings PerSyd. The more I learn about these "power trees" in dreaming the more perplexed I am about them. There is definitely more
than one type of manifestation of the tree, but some how they are all tied together even when they are far apart in different dream worlds with different
characteristics. The tree represents the heart and wisdom. It is not just power but "true power". This power that the tree has just makes it all
the more difficult to grasp. When I see the tree, I see aspects of myself in it as well as what is "not me", it's like the tree has a sense of
self and purpose beyond human experience, which reminds me of inorganic beings in a way. I think it reflects organic and inorganic energy, its a refreshing
experience in the dream realm.
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PerSyd wrote:
Yggdrasil is a sentient being, humans living today are very far behind it in terms of sense and purpose.
The ancient ones all around the world left behind the ziggurats /pyramids trying to make material marks of what they knew/ "saw".
It remembers energy. The past lifes, it knows the ones still to come.
I'd have to agree with you on all of that PerSyd, Yggdrasil is a mind boggling experience. Somehow, it facilitates reincarnation, it is the gateway
that inorganic being use to incarnate as physical beings. It is not the gateway to this world however, as I've seen that and it appears to be something
that the non-local inorganic beings known as Septimims have manifested. What I have also discovered is that some kinds of inorganics don't want to
incarnate as physical beings at all, that is why these types keep their world sealed, it protects them from being sucked into physical reality. If nothing
else, those hidden type of inorganic beings, the ones that Castaneda dealt with have learned to control their own destiny. They appear to avoid being
influenced by Yggdrasil. The Septimims have tried to show me the "tree of knowledge" but I just can't understand what they are talking about
yet, its really frustrating.
PerSyd wrote:
You were chosen to be it's guardian, the tree choose you. Your energy configuration is not that common, is it? A double Scout, the inorganics must have
told you that.
And the Nagual took you there, he knew you were watching him. Maybe one day you will find out why.
Yes, I think you're right. There appears to have been two things going on. First, the tree picked me to tend to it because my configuration allows me
to see small non-sentient parasitic inorganic beings which I am also able to counter. I think that my kind are just naturally meant to be symbiotic with the
tree, like those jungle ants that protect certain plants. I was told that my kind are not rare, just unlikely to reveal themselves. The second thing that
seems to be noteworthy is that Castaneda probably did lure me to the tree before I was actually supposed to see it, that is, I wasn't supposed to know that
naguals used it for anything. I can't really tell if that was on purpose or by accident at this time. Primarily, Yggdrasil is a major influence on the
fulfilment of human beings, it is all about being fruitful and multiplying. It's esoteric functions seem to be utilized by and for the benefit of
inorganic beings.
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Thank you Persyd for reminding me of the tree's name..it been many years since I heard that name. I welcome you here and hope you bring more knowledge to
our camp.
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PerSyd wrote:
As a gateway, Yggdrasil is the portal between our world and that of Asgard/Atlantis/ Niebelungen....
One thing I keep noticing, around the tree, is that there appear to be skirmishes between different types of inorganic critters. If I'm not mistaken,
it is like some kind of inorganic mini-ecosystem around the tree, if that makes any sense. So, I'm really starting to wonder about the place, its just so
damn weird. Anyway, for whatever energetic reason, I have seen that people have 8 energy bodies total that are active at one time, only a couple of which are
usually obvious. So, I tried using 4 of mine to lock into the tree last night. By doing this, I was able to gain access to the inside of the tree. I also
tried using the other 4 but nothing happened. I guess I'm somehow resonating with the tree at the base chakra level because I saw that there was fire
flowing everywhere inside the tree, like it used fire instead of sap, and it felt totally peaceful. At one point, the tree looked like a volcano. Everything
eventually settled back to normal and I found that my dreaming body had gained better acces to my waking body, and I felt a bit healthier too. Also, before I
forget, saying the word "atlantis" near the tree causes stuff to happen, its like some kind of magic word in dreaming.
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PerSyd wrote:
It is a combination of tonal and nagual what the tree seeks. One must be a warrior to do that. That is why the Inorganics are helping you fix the damages to
your energy body. They don't do that very often.
Here's the strange thing about being helped by those little green inorganic guys, like you said, it is very unusual, and I don't think they did it
out of kindness. I don't believe that inorganic beings are capable of originating kindness no matter how nice they may act at times. I think that some
inorganic beings have developed a sense of kindeness from interaction with compassionate humans. I think that some of the more evolved humans have something
to teach everyone, including non-human entities. The tree of life contains joy and compassion, as if it was human, but it also contains very dark mysteries
and an ancient legacy, I think it is a good influence on everything around it, even though not everything around it is good.
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PerSyd wrote:
The inorganics are fighting for "the best spot". None of our business. What are you defining as energy bodies are actually active chakras. Most
humans only use the first two of them. Someone activated the tree so that you could get what you need. A gift from the Nagual. The ancient words still have
their power today. What did you see looked kinda like this, one cannot explain the nagual in tonal. Those inorganics do as they have to. The "evolved
humans" are actually the ones behind the portal. The Atlantis.
The powers of the ancient were great but not always used for what they should have been.
You changed you avatar to the Ke-Pher-Ra, the rising sun. Why?
Over a period of about the last half-dozen or so years, I have had some non-lucid dreams in which I am confronted by a gigantic blue scarab man about nine
feet tall. The dream is usually the same, with the guy greeting me at the door of an ornate house and inviting me in. In the dream I try not to act freaked
out that there is a giant beetle talking to me, and follow him to the living room where I can see the backyard through some windows. The view I see of the
backyard is of a place that I have seen before in a pivotal lucid dream, as if the two dreams have been sandwitched together. To make a long story short, in
my last encounter with the tree, I had focused on using my dreaming body as the primary consciousness in the dream, not only did it strengthen my grip on
everything, but I also turned into the big blue beetle during the event. The feeling stayed with me all day afterwards. Now, I sense that this is what I was
supposed to do. Somehow, the scarab and the tree go together, it is definitely standing guard now. It was not really the turn of events I was expecting. I
was rather hoping that my dreaming body could turn into a crow instead, but, such is life. That's a very cool photo that you posted PerSyd, I don't
see any sunlight around the beetle though, it just has a sky colored sheen to it.
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PerSyd wrote:
The giant scarab is an animal form of the nagual to come. It's color is blue due to it's current direction S-E. Not quite sunrise yet. It is the one
that will use the tree again. It taught you an animal form, you probably can learn more. It's all about energy, as I see you have quite a bit.
PerSyd, do you think that maybe the Tree of Life is the inspiration for the Death Defier that Castaneda wrote about? It would be a clever way of putting
it, since the tree does defy death and is able to teach things. It's just a theory. To be honest, while I was in the scarab form, I was worried that it
might "stick" and I would end up having to dream as a beetle for the rest of my life.
Today, I nodded off for a bit after lunch, I saw myself at the tree again as the scarab. Suddenly, from the base of the tree, tens of thousands of miniature
versions of me, regular sized scarabs I guess, swarmed out in a huge wave away from the tree. In their wake, the ground turned from black to white, the world
of the tree changed as well, becoming smaller, even the dark sky became bright. The tree world shrunk down to the size of a tennis ball, and that ball was
attached to an energy body -- because the white ball that I was looking at was actually an assemblage point. The realization startled me awake. As I pulled a
cold energy-drink out of the fridge and headed back to work, I knew I had just found the way to get to all of the trees. I think that my itinerary for the
rest of the month is now full.
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PerSyd wrote:
The tree is inorganic, it never was human. But the Death Defier was. He was born into this world a long time ago. And, yes he's still alive...
Different worlds are different positions of the assamblage point. If one has enough energy, can travel to different worlds.
From what I can see, the energy of the tree of life resonates with the assemblage point, that is, if you find one then you can find the other. I guess
that the "sun" that the scarab moves is actually the assemblage point itself. Since the dreaming body is the scarab, or at least my dreaming body,
then I would have to conclude that the dreaming body is what moves the assemblage point. But, every chakra/energy body has its own assemblage point. I'm
wondering if they all move simutaneously or if they can adjust individually. It's like there ain't enough hours in the day to figure all this stuff
out. Last night I didn't do anything but snore.
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PerSyd
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As to the "tree of knowledge" probably belongs to another liniage of sorcerers.
I was finally able to find the tree of knowledge, with the help of another seer, she reminded me that I had described a dream to her about 14 years ago
which she thought could be of the tree. She was right it turns out, and it is fairly easy to locate the tree of knowledge because it is linked with the tree
of life -- they really are something of a pair. I guess I was still questioning that fact in my mind up until now. As you had said, PerSyd, the tree is being
used by a different group of people and they appear to be very active. Let me describe what the tree looks like, because it ain't the apple tree I was
expecting. It is shaped like a Fir tree and looks like it is made out of illuminated diamonds. It's sort of like an upright chandelier, absolutely
beautiful. Positioned around it in a perfect circle are roughly 16 energy bodies that are all like the tree, diamond like eggs with light coming out of them.
The tree told me that they protect it. Whoever they are, they've been around the tree long enough to become just like it, really an amazing sight.
I'm not able to penetrate their identities, I had a gut feeling that it could be Howard Y. Lee's group that is the diamond lineage, but I don't
think I can prove it. Since they are also protecting the tree, the best they can, I'm bound from disturbing them, so I guess I'll just have to leave
them be.
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What is a scout
I have provided a link here that loops back to Separate Reality so that some vehicle of integration can be applied in terms of expanding on our communications,
as if the two forums were one.
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I see that what i once have written i am able to rephrase so, Ygggdrasil will turn black just as it did show light four years back. Also the communication opened here between the two forums will cease.
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PerSyd wrote:
All chakra must become active in order to move ones assemblage point. One of the things that can do that is the blow of the nagual. The tree resonates with
the muladhara chakra the first one, from there the energy moves up activating the rest of them. Your problem seems related with the fourth chackra the area
of pancreas,spline. What you experienced is the "shift below" a position that is outside the human range of perception, that is what the Nagual did
in turning into a crow.
The warrior sorcerers works are silent.
Did you mention your health issue in any of the previous posts, prior to that on Parallel Perception?
The whole reason that I started posting about my dreaming experiences these days is because my health is so bad that I'm afraid that I could become
incapacitated at anytime.
Primer on the AP: The human assemblage point is about the size of a tennis ball, positioned at the back surface of the the energy body, between the heart
and throat chakras. The assemblage point is not like the other chakras, it is an extension of an eighth chakra which controls breathing. This eighth chakra
is all but invisible because all of its energy has bee transfered to the second chakra so that we can procreate and maintain a physical form. The assemblage
point has a front and a back and an equator. The front of the assemblage point actually points away from the body in humans (which is why we are mortal) and
towards the body with inorganic beings. There is a twin, lesser, assemblage point, the size of a pea, that is positioned like a moon of the greater assemblage
point, above it's equator. The lesser, practically invisible, assemblage point is strictly inorganic in function, and only exists in this form in humans.
Inorganic beings, on the other hand, manifest the assemblage point as a chakra, not hovering outside of their energy bodies, but contained within them. Energy
and consciousness travel, back and forth, through the assemblage points of the physical body to the assemblage points of the dreaming body. I call these two
conduits of energy, the greater and lesser passages. Castaneda referred to the lesser passage as the "narrow passage" which we make our final escape
through. Anyway, that's the basic mechanics of the assemblage point. One last thing is that the AP is actually a container of energy itself, and is
sealed until we die.
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