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Well here's an interesting one.
Lets make a rod for a cadeceus.. right here, right now..
and talk about NOT the bible..
but the messiah complex; also known as the Christ complex and savior complex.
We can talk about anti-Christ complex too.
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Who wants to get the BALL rolling?
If you currently think you are Jesus please do not reply to the post.
This post is only for those who are healed of their egoic insanity.
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if you currently think you are Jesus please do not reply to the post.
this post is only for those who are healed of their egoic insanity.
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What about those in intermittent remission?
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The important thing to do is to get the selfish
(Edit: removed a personal attack.)
to admit he is a curse apon our way of life
and for all the self serving egoic $%@* he has perpetuated
he has alo bought civil unrest and war to all of our doors.
and all because..
15 years ago.. when i started writing on Lone Wolf's forum
i was a young man.
Today i see the youth of today and feel a familiar pang of regret and long spent youth.
"familiar"?
In this room where i sit, objective to my vile jealousy of the young.
i find a old sword buried in my back..
it has been there for 15 years.
stalking?
what is stalking? I share nothing with that prick.
Let me explain my slant on the messiah complex.
when i was 5 or 6 i saw the Dalai Lama on tv..
and then declared to my parents that i was the Dalai Lama and so how could he be.?
I realised at that moment that nobody was looking for me as the king of the mountains etc..
and so in my sense of equality sought to express whatever it as i felt through
the challenges of cold war britain.
through-out my teens i always had a very powerful spirit that i did not really control
it was a part of my potential and my totality and not my knowledge.
etc.. etc..
eventually i realised i could study yoga and chakras and bullshit and crystals and bullshit and acupuncture and bulsshit.
but no matter how much i did i would never know where this totality came from as i would
become a "talk the talk" type spiritualist.
i found it disgusting and so set about destroying my scurity of mind
to break the cage of self assurance etc..
some people on my path were all too happy to oblige.
the immpeccable ones were no less ruthless than the sadistic..
but come the day i cried STOP.. they stopped
the others linger on.
everything my spiritual power has is a result of deconstruction..
of whittling away what i saw as fundamental
but which once premoved left me still alive,,
so what is left is life.
it is the only lgical reason for my survival.
most of my set didnt make it.
on may 1st 2005. whilst tripping on acid..
i picked up a branch of wood and it turned to spirit.
i held it in my hands like a rockstar holds his axe.
and dclared to my self " I am Jesus!"
then i recoiled in a sort of horror/embarrasment.. and tried to sort my +!## out.
then i saw an enormous red jellyfish of a demon.bigger than our world, apon each of its thousands of barbs
a solitary (edit: removed personal attacked. Read as: person) with a messiaic complex.
none would talk about it to therapists , none would talk to each other.
none could even SEE the others as they each thought they were the messiah.
MINDBOMB.
from that day i started to do everything in terms of.
"I have a right to engineer a world changing miracle without calling myself
or believing myself to be the messiah".
In many ways my very wierd behaviour is a defence mechanism (stalk) to
prevent people from thinking i am one of the ones apon "the thorns"
yes the Jesus Demon is a real (edit: removed personal attack).
bigger than our world.. interveighed with people upon the surface of our world.
people who all need to get a !%*!*#+ grip now.
(Edit: merged consecutive posts by the same author. Began to correct some typos, but then needed to stop as I was changing the energy of post. Edits are to remove personal attacks. Keep in mind an idea is more powerful when presented objectively. Being subjective in your sharing of ideas, Rosy, generally alienates people from connecting with the idea.)
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The important thing to do is to get the selfish
(Edit: removed a personal attack.)
to admit he is a curse apon our way of life
and for all the self serving egoic $%@* he has perpetuated
he has alo bought civil unrest and war to all of our doors.
and all because..
15 years ago.. when i started writing on Lone Wolf's forum
i was a young man.
Today i see the youth of today and feel a familiar pang of regret and long spent youth.
"familiar"?
In this room where i sit, objective to my vile jealousy of the young.
i find a old sword buried in my back..
it has been there for 15 years.
stalking?
what is stalking? I share nothing with that prick.
Let me explain my slant on the messiah complex.
when i was 5 or 6 i saw the Dalai Lama on tv..
and then declared to my parents that i was the Dalai Lama and so how could he be.?
I realised at that moment that nobody was looking for me as the king of the mountains etc..
and so in my sense of equality sought to express whatever it as i felt through
the challenges of cold war britain.
through-out my teens i always had a very powerful spirit that i did not really control
it was a part of my potential and my totality and not my knowledge.
etc.. etc..
eventually i realised i could study yoga and chakras and bullshit and crystals and bullshit and acupuncture and bulsshit.
but no matter how much i did i would never know where this totality came from as i would
become a "talk the talk" type spiritualist.
i found it disgusting and so set about destroying my scurity of mind
to break the cage of self assurance etc..
some people on my path were all too happy to oblige.
the immpeccable ones were no less ruthless than the sadistic..
but come the day i cried STOP.. they stopped
the others linger on.
everything my spiritual power has is a result of deconstruction..
of whittling away what i saw as fundamental
but which once premoved left me still alive,,
so what is left is life.
it is the only lgical reason for my survival.
most of my set didnt make it.
on may 1st 2005. whilst tripping on acid..
i picked up a branch of wood and it turned to spirit.
i held it in my hands like a rockstar holds his axe.
and dclared to my self " I am Jesus!"
then i recoiled in a sort of horror/embarrasment.. and tried to sort my +!## out.
then i saw an enormous red jellyfish of a demon.bigger than our world, apon each of its thousands of barbs
a solitary (edit: removed personal attacked. Read as: person) with a messiaic complex.
none would talk about it to therapists , none would talk to each other.
none could even SEE the others as they each thought they were the messiah.
MINDBOMB.
from that day i started to do everything in terms of.
"I have a right to engineer a world changing miracle without calling myself
or believing myself to be the messiah".
In many ways my very wierd behaviour is a defence mechanism (stalk) to
prevent people from thinking i am one of the ones apon "the thorns"
yes the Jesus Demon is a real (edit: removed personal attack).
bigger than our world.. interveighed with people upon the surface of our world.
people who all need to get a !%*!*#+ grip now.
(Edit: merged consecutive posts by the same author. Began to correct some typos via request from the author, but then needed to stop as I was changing the energy of post. Edits are to remove personal attacks. Keep in mind an idea is more powerful when presented objectively. Being subjective in your sharing of ideas, Rosy, generally alienates people from connecting with the idea.)
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The important thing to do is to get the selfish
(Edit: removed a personal attack.)
to admit he is a curse apon our way of life
and for all the self serving egoic $%@* he has perpetuated
he has alo bought civil unrest and war to all of our doors.
and all because..
15 years ago.. when i started writing on Lone Wolf's forum
i was a young man.
Today i see the youth of today and feel a familiar pang of regret and long spent youth.
"familiar"?
In this room where i sit, objective to my vile jealousy of the young.
i find a old sword buried in my back..
it has been there for 15 years.
stalking?
what is stalking? I share nothing with that prick.
Let me explain my slant on the messiah complex.
when i was 5 or 6 i saw the Dalai Lama on tv..
and then declared to my parents that i was the Dalai Lama and so how could he be.?
I realised at that moment that nobody was looking for me as the king of the mountains etc..
and so in my sense of equality sought to express whatever it as i felt through
the challenges of cold war britain.
through-out my teens i always had a very powerful spirit that i did not really control
it was a part of my potential and my totality and not my knowledge.
etc.. etc..
eventually i realised i could study yoga and chakras and bullshit and crystals and bullshit and acupuncture and bulsshit.
but no matter how much i did i would never know where this totality came from as i would
become a "talk the talk" type spiritualist.
i found it disgusting and so set about destroying my scurity of mind
to break the cage of self assurance etc..
some people on my path were all too happy to oblige.
the immpeccable ones were no less ruthless than the sadistic..
but come the day i cried STOP.. they stopped
the others linger on.
everything my spiritual power has is a result of deconstruction..
of whittling away what i saw as fundamental
but which once premoved left me still alive,,
so what is left is life.
it is the only lgical reason for my survival.
most of my set didnt make it.
on may 1st 2005. whilst tripping on acid..
i picked up a branch of wood and it turned to spirit.
i held it in my hands like a rockstar holds his axe.
and dclared to my self " I am Jesus!"
then i recoiled in a sort of horror/embarrasment.. and tried to sort my +!## out.
then i saw an enormous red jellyfish of a demon.bigger than our world, apon each of its thousands of barbs
a solitary (edit: removed personal attacked. Read as: person) with a messiaic complex.
none would talk about it to therapists , none would talk to each other.
none could even SEE the others as they each thought they were the messiah.
MINDBOMB.
from that day i started to do everything in terms of.
"I have a right to engineer a world changing miracle without calling myself
or believing myself to be the messiah".
In many ways my very wierd behaviour is a defence mechanism (stalk) to
prevent people from thinking i am one of the ones apon "the thorns"
yes the Jesus Demon is a real (edit: removed personal attack).
bigger than our world.. interveighed with people upon the surface of our world.
people who all need to get a !%*!*#+ grip now.
(Edit: merged consecutive posts by the same author. Began to correct some typos, but then needed to stop as I was changing the energy of post and it was taking too long ((too many typos)). If you would like me to edit your post, Rosy, please make the revisions you want and post it in the admin/mod log and I am more than willing to update with your revision. Edits are to remove personal attacks. Keep in mind an idea is more powerful when presented objectively. Being subjective in your sharing of ideas, Rosy, generally alienates people from connecting with the idea.)
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kamoea.. can you be myspellcheck..uh,?
i would appreciate your touch apon my interface...moowahh ha haaar.
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And Jesus said so can you too be like me and even surpass me in all I do. The teachings of Jesus in fact lead you to be just like Him. In fact anyone's teach will lead you to where they stand. Jesus even we t so far as to teach that when I voted the spirit of Jesus shall enter into you and guide you. I don't see anything wrong with it either. Jesus offers us such a sweet and powerful position.
Oh yeah and to mention a good stalker can become any position of awareness. Nothing is out of reach. There are no limits. The life of every.master,any master, can be fed directly into your awareness. A good stalker pretends and acts his plan and then the spirit descends and you become the position. Sure I have met people who thought they were Jesus because their awareness inhabited a position that resembled the power of Jesus. In that position you Almost become Jesus. You take on and enter into the same walk of life, the same realizations that Jesus discovered and lived.
Where you see weakness and negative judgement I see power, blessing, and ability. Somehow you think that becoming, believing in something as powerful as becoming, being Jesus is a curse that you condemn and curse. I find in my path that the ones who curse everything and everyone are the ones who end up alone and living in those curses.
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Oh yeah and to mention a good stalker can become any position of awareness. Nothing is out of reach. There are no limits. The life of every.master,any master, can be fed directly into your awareness. A good stalker pretends and acts his plan and then the spirit descends and you become the position. Sure I have met people who thought they were Jesus because their awareness inhabited a position that resembled the power of Jesus. In that position you Almost become Jesus. You take on and enter into the same walk of life, the same realizations that Jesus discovered and lived.
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Where you see weakness and negative judgement I see power, blessing, and ability. Somehow you think that becoming, believing in something as powerful as becoming, being Jesus is a curse that you condemn and curse. I find in my path that the ones who curse everything and everyone are the ones who end up alone and living in those curses.
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In one instant, seeing the essence of a piece of wood, in all its resplendent indescribable beauty. And then, it happens....I am "this" or "this" is "that". Something riding shotgun interjects and hijacks what was once pure and clear....and diverts it off center into spirals of fractalising associations until the center is nowhere in site....lost in a maze of considerations. I mean, I understand your insight as to "I am like Jesus" in that moment of realization..but the demon, to me, is taking that realization and then taking it too far...taking it seriously as something to be hardened around and leveraged against for the purposed of self importance. The FI does this almost reflexively.
With respect to spiritual revolution...for me, its not about identifying what's going on "out there" in terms of what's being done to us...but about what's going in "inside here". Seeing, in the immediacy of the moment, what's happening when I'm being diverted and when I'm centering silently around the abstract core. Getting a feel for the difference and what precipitates the shift, one way or another.
The whole notion of the messiah complex has to do with that hijacking...getting diverted....and the self importance that comes with it. Taking credit for something that's just naturally already there and happening in the first place, with or without my awareness of it. Becoming aware of it doesn't mean its mine....but, then again, it is in a way because I'm aligned with it through and through. But, the instant that something "claims"....that that subtle inflection to self-aggrandizement interjects itself...that's when I I lose the plot. Lack of humility...lack of perspective.
I guess that's my whole issue with the Jesus identification. Why make the distinction if it represents something inherent in everyone/everything? To much emphasis on comparisons between those of us who realize our capacity to be like Jesus and those of us who don't or won't. The difference is just realization of what's already there...and who can take credit for that? Anybody can do it any time, any where. Seems absurd. It's like stumbling upon a new land feature, like a river, and then naming it after myself. Ridiculous.
IDK, whatever. I currently don't feel to worried about "the state of things", personally. I just figure that every living thing (it seems all things are living, too ) enjoys the game of getting diverted and ensnarled....ensorcelled, so to speak...and then extracting themselves to find their way home, bringing home "trophies" of their experiences. The joys of getting lost and then finding one's way home. It's a great story!
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You see I am very different. In my reality it is not a problem to manifest a landscape and have it named what you choose. In some positions reality is new manifested n who should name it but the caster, the creator. Who owns your dreams?
Belief can be a very powerful tool. I think some are blessed with them ability to believe, to be convinced of anything. The mind is a powerful tool. The real trick is to be able to choose what you believe in. When I believed I was God my actions and reflections resembled God. As far as I intend God to be in my awareness. I had many people believe I was God too. The point is when you believe in something you can achieve it. Belief is an extension of our will.
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You see I am very different. In my reality it is not a problem to manifest a landscape and have it named what you choose. In some positions reality is new manifested n who should name it but the caster, the creator. Who owns your dreams?
Belief can be a very powerful tool. I think some are blessed with them ability to believe, to be convinced of anything. The mind is a powerful tool. The real trick is to be able to choose what you believe in. When I believed I was God my actions and reflections resembled God. As far as I intend God to be in my awareness. I had many people believe I was God too. The point is when you believe in something you can achieve it. Belief is an extension of our will.
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No one that can be named, is my answer. Infinity itself, if a name is insisted upon.
It's a personal preference to ensure that humility stays intact, regardless of my developing awareness. To divert emphasis away from the self. To ensure that "Power", which DJ classified as the 3rd enemy of the man of knowledge, doesn't get the upper hand and foster self importance. Vanity. Pride. Ego driven megalomania, which craves worship....and which enslaves others because they look to the one who is powerful, without understanding that they can find their own power within, through their own connecting link to infinity.
To not become an ++$$%!%
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Rosy,
Hold onto your frustration for a little longer. The core issue with this situation is the presentation of unsupported statements and claims. To address this concern threads are continually being monitored and moved into areas of the site appropriate for unsupported claims (such as the Tonal and New Seers). Everyone is permitted the freedom of speech; determining whether discussions are personal experience/creative imagination or fact/knowledge determines where threads will ultimately wind up.
Just because I call myself a doesn't make it true. Truth is always seen within action and movement. Don't let it upset you too much. We're all finding ourselves.
Kao (aka )
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i think it needs to be very clear what forebearance is.
in a crowd forebearance would be trying not to crush the person in front of you even though there is pressure on your back.
in fluidity from the habititual assemblage position we are released of the inconveniences of human attatchment
forebearance is the responsibility to deliberatly keep ceratin boundaries of energy in place.
for instance.. in order to make a nagual circle..
you draw a circle and then put NOTHING in it.
if you practice CHI.. then you direct no chi at all to the circle , but keep the circle round/
forebearance is like putting a female shape around a female..
and then not breaking any of the boundaries of the female shape.
forebearnace is like putting a male shape around a male
and then not breaking any of the boundaries of the male shape.
forebearance is like putting a circle shape around a nagual
and then not breaking any of the circle shape around the nagual.
WAY TOO MANY PEOPLE- once free of the habitual position
just allow their energy to flow anyway it wants.. for it to go through the circle
for it to have sex with women through the wind, or to guide male adversaries into the incovenient known.
forebearance is a skill and a strength of knowledge over time.
this BULL about being jesus is vamparism upon others souls.
forebearance of the other forms, respect for individuals..
limit such power.
but who wants to limit their power? eh.
respectfull, immpeccable people. thats who.
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Yes, Rosy. You are right. Since you're passionate about this effect being seen, what is that you suggest be done to address such a serious concern. I've personally made the same complaints you have and action is being taken, just slowly. What other solutions do you see to help correct this concern? Personal attacks can't be utilized (tried that, I got in trouble, heh). What else? I've resorted to proper containment--outside the circle of sacredness. What else should be done to address the need? I'm open to suggestions
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Thank you rosy, this is such a beautiful way to express something I thought I could never explain. But I see now that maybe English does have a word for it: forbearance.
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Yeah, the notion forbearance resonates...at least on a personal level. And, for me right now, the breach happens at the level of the mind....so that's where the application's rubber meets the road, so to speak. So that's where forbearance has to become sustained....and it will be, sooner or later, I know.
Once my containment is secure, then I can think about empty circles of warriors and such.
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The way i dscovered forbearance was fairly lack lustre.back in 1998 (ish) when i was a bit more into partyingi had had a long night amongst lots of tripping and dancing hippiesall of whom were in the midst of various stages of healing and letting go.irresponsibly throwing away energy forms and earlier life abuses on the dance floowa.it was a wild time for accidently picking up that which more hardened heads had thrown to the earth to take away.it seems my will to find a teachning was strong, but also facillitated by some others desire to get rid of their social conditioning..
to cut a long story short..i always was secretly very pleased that when i eventually became sexually mature enough to have sexthat it lasted a long time, that i didnt fancy men or kids or have any rape fantasies. and that i was evidently very sensual ( as well as selfish)my mind was so logicly stable that i would say blaz'e things like " schizophrenics are only like that because they choose to be"basicly anything i didnt empathise with which was in some way negative i would say was the other persons choice (sound familiar?)I realised of course deep down that i was not fully aware of these trials mankind endures and so i set up the intent to learn.
then one fatefull sunday morning , after a long night off my head on drugsmy girlfriend went to the shops to get wine, tobbacco and supplies so we could have a lengthy boozed up sex session and sleepand while she was out her 9 year old daughter came downstairs and satnext to me.all that happened phsicly next was i got an erection.what happened mentally was my entire world collapsedwhat happened emotionally was i became speared on something horrible.because i was so horrified at this glimpse of pedophillic mind, in my rejection of iti further began to tear at other aspects of my inviolate psychethe rape, the homosexuality, the fruedian psychosis of ages.
i became schizophrenic within a matter of days.wheras for the past 22 years i had always loved childen in an easy and heartfelt manneri could no longer open my heart to them, i couldnt even lift them off the ground in play.i couldnt sit in a room with two women without hearing their secret curses against rapistsand feeling every bolt shudder through my chkras, driving me deeper into madness.i had started to ejaculate within minutesand the act itself had become a desperate escape from relating to the outside worldi.e. i was perfectly at peace during penetration..but compared to last months marathons that time was dwindling fast.(SKULLS)
it was really Funking horrible.
i left my girlfriend who i loved dearly because i had become insaneand couldnt pass it off as being stoned or socially insecure as she knew me better than thati couldnt admit to myself i had schizophrenia as in my self i knew it was a challenge to overcome.
FOREBEARANCE- where forebearnace comes into this is one of the desperate plans to survivewas i came up with a sixteen year waiting plan between the birth of a child and the point at which my
sexual energy could connect with themi began to plot it in the MEST of the sorcerers worlda path through time that would get me out of the way of children..not because i was sexually attracted to them ( i have never fantasised about penetrating a child)but because every word they spoke was another cruel strike at my massive hangups.
obviously..as exampleplotting a path through the sorcerers world and intending to do soalso had with it parts of the cures for the rapist curses i was picking up,or the absolutley horrible relationship that had sprung up between me and my mother.picture-any ****--possible and that was me.. for years.. trying to larn to navigate.
with regards sexual maturity.. forebearance startedas a seedling.. with one growth ring..and my decision to see that CIRCLE when it had fifteen more around it. fattening it beyondits current circumference..
the resistence of the tree.the potential of the tree to be a circle that wasnot only expandingbut also could not be countered by any element of me from becoming 16 rings..the bark of which was colliding with my tonal.and so the tree kept on hitting meand kept on funking hitting me.
so basicly forebearance is running into a tree.A LOT.
i am fine now..
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Rosy, I'm relieved you're okay. Just so you're aware, schizophrenia results in brain differences related to topography and cognitive function. It is not something one "gets over". It's sort of like having a limb replaced by a prosthetic (bad example, but the best I've got right now). You can use the limb, but it needs to have modifications to enable it to perform in a similar manner as those who have their natural limb. You have a natural brain, but it functions a bit differently than the majority. You can't use psychotherapy to "fix" schizophrenia. Not that I'm trying to limit you, I mean, maybe people can use their intent to manipulate matter... like some have claimed is possible. If that's possible, I expect those people to be in hiding and avoiding the government, locked up by the government, or not be wasting their time on an internet forum bragging about it and arguing about how awesome they are
It's nice you've learned how to let things go. I'm still trying to figure that out. Fixing and cleaning up things helps me let something go. So does beating people. That helps me a lot too. The beating aspect is generally frowned upon so--usually I wind up resorting to mitigating the annoyance with distraction. Your way sounds healthier.
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wow thats quite patronising.
i was born in clarity.. (left over from last life)
and took it down.
by pitting power against my sobriety,
it was never actually clinical schizophrenia because i never gave in to a fragmenting force, knowing
it was a wrestle by my intent of pitting power against my own sobriety as an ISOMETRIC force.
sobriety -- the part of me which could have said- I dont need to experience this i will move my assemblage point
to somehting less inconvenient.
but i didnt.. i pit power aginst sobriety
and made NEW POWER from it.
then i find failures of the second enemy trying to move their assemblage point to the position where they can reap
NEW POWER i gleaned through warriorship.. i become very sad.
sad because to them its just another bit of hedonism and comfort..
with no foundation in recapitulation.
"And thus he has encountered his second enemy: Clarity!
That clarity of mind, which is so hard to obtain, dispels fear, but also blinds. "It forces the man never to doubt himself. It gives him the assurance he can do anything he pleases, for he sees clearly into everything. And he is courageous because he is clear, and he stops at nothing because he is clear. But all that is a mistake; it is like something incomplete. If the man yields to this make-believe power, he has succumbed to his second enemy and will fumble with learning. He will rush when he should be patient, or he will be patient when he should rush. And he will fumble with learning until he winds up incapable of learning anything more."
"What becomes of a man who is defeated in that way, don Juan? Does he die as a result?"
"No, he doesn’t die. His second enemy has just stopped him cold from trying to become a man of knowledge; instead, the man may turn into a buoyant warrior, or a clown. Yet the clarity for which he has paid so dearly will never change to darkness and fear again. He will be clear as long as he lives, but he will no longer learn, or yearn for, anything."
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look at it like this.
THE FOUR NATURAL ENEMIES.
The first natural enemy of fear is one which those in the habitual assemblage position are born into.
ths is because they didnt beat the enemy of fear last lifetime.
The second natural enemy is able to be accessed EITHER by overcoming fear in a lifetime OR
being born sober having completed fear training in a previous lifetime and carrying knowledge of it
past the intiial veil of death.
people who are born Sober, because of the nature of sobriety are not very different to those born in fear
as fear still exists as in intercorporeal lesson for all who are born.
as such those born into the second enemy may never wake up as they will always be able to use their innate sobriety to avoid fear..
(thats what i was)
The third natural enemy.POWER. is achieved after defeating sobriety
OR in the case of the nagual man.
it is the energy they are born into.
the fact that nagual men have power is not some super duper special gift.
it is a very serious lesson.
It is hard for a normal man to encounter his fear even though he is born into it.
It is VERY hard for a sober man to encounter fear as he is born able to avoid perception of it.
It is nigh on immpossible for a nagual man to tackle his fear as his sobriety enables him to avoid it
and his power enables him to dish it out for others.
STOP.. letting nagual men tell you they are beyond the four enemies
they really really are not.
the death of the sorcerer awaits.
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I'm sorry, I didn't mean to be patronizing. I know I often come off sarcastically and can be quite cynical--so when I'm not intending to be those things, people can't tell the difference. I genuinely meant your way sounds healthier than mine. I don't have the best coping skills when I bump up against untruths or things I perceive as untruths. I want to categorize those untruths and sort them so that they make sense to me and others. You, on the other hand, have decided to let it go. To say, "Eh, not a big deal." I wish I could do that. I can't....it's not even a matter of won't. I just can't reach that yet. For the small, petty things, sure. A line-cutter, I'll let that go. A thief, it depends on what's stole, but an untruth I can't let that go. Maybe for people pretending to have an untruth, but for people who genuinely believe in an untruth, I have to fix it xD I have to go BOOM and then I'm alright.
The way you've faced your truths is very honest. It may not have been very functional at the time--but it's very honest. You didn't avoid or hide from your truths. You stood in its path and received it. Now you've shared it with others. There's a lot of power from those acts. I was being sincere, not patronizing. I definitely think I am superior in many ways, to many people but in this situation I definitely think I'm not superior. I believe you're superior, as I refuse to share my truths. I don't trust or like people enough to openly share. I share with maybe a handful, but beyond that--people are too unkind to trust (for me).
Or maybe you thought I was being patronizing for a different reason?
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