Where are we doing it wrong?

[Uncle Sam]

this was for the Sustained reaction, but as i have been banned there, i decided to cheer you up here with it too at least, and now we have this loop, also wanted to change the thread name to "Where are we doing it wrong?" today (you can make it watergaze pls), edit button disappeared, this will be more therapeutic, but curing can be fun too, especially if you have a little doctor in yourself.)

So, the TRUTH IS ABOUT HAPPINESS =) Thats it.

The help came directly issued by CC directly, Armando Torres book, in 2002, it is new or modern seers, new era, not the new age. That was enough. The essence of this is the best, but it depends on innovation, whats the real mission of this forum. What comprises modern seers paradigm, CC left this task on formulations to us, dialectics will do (CC states that he is using obsolete archaic terms, one friend pointed that original ancient, old nagual forms are evil, good point fyi, but not having enought time for it, just proposed the tool for it, phenomenology, but it is just LIFE), Yoga is the best upgrade paradigm, because thats essence of third attention achievement, to bring the two bodies together, and it must be clear that it is Health, as stuff can turn pretty unhealthy, in the body-mind (tonal), and in the second attention, what can get much worse.

[Uncle Sam]

CBM: have you read Armando Torres s book, CC on evolutionary group of seers/nagual party. also CC explains there where you are incorrect in your speculations (hint: IBs, not ETs) in the second part of your post, as to the evolutionary perfected human body, where we are born with body and energy nagual body together notice pls that if you are not bringing body and energy body together (third ring of power, toward third attention freedom), you are doing it wrong.

Sorcery without learning to see, to become Seer, is pointless, psychotropic drugs as well, thats killer.

[Uncle Sam]

Watergaze, i ve found the cure. it is efficient for neurotics of all kinds

the principle here: http://www.nyingma.com/dzogchen1.htm (very intelligently written by very kind man)

CBM: in one point in history people carved them to stones, all those wierd "gods" (not ETs). in Michael Harners (CCs friend) book, Jivaro shaman tells him (to Harner) to DISREGARD THEM COMPLETELY because they only "lie" to people.

[Uncle Sam]

The conceptual mind has a role but is only a very small part of the whole being. By itself, that small part can never understand. The tragedy is that the little part has been conditioned to believe it can understand. The path Reb Johnson points us toward is a better direction toward understanding what Gurdjieff left for us than the dark, craggy, lifeless path recommended by those who put their faith only in the conceptual mind. The top heavy intellectual who in all things trusts only in that tiny part of himself, denying and rejecting the intelligence of the body and the intelligence of feeling, with stubborn, mechanized partiality to the "critical techniques of analysis and synthesis" as was drummed into the heads of recent generations in our ordinary education, is the one more likely destined for the lunatic asylum as "psychopath squared." The spiritual search is a movement. The movement can lead in a direction of wholeness, in which mind, body and feeling become better related and in balance, facilitating a finer understanding not otherwise accessible to us. Castaneda's journey is an interesting study from the standpoint of the movement toward and away from wholeness. To reject offhand everything Castaneda gave on the featherweight grounds some critics have suggested would be silly. As for Castaneda's writings, it is far better to read those works for oneself. As Reb Johnson rightly suggests - don't judge a man (or his work) by the tales of others.

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I'm not going to post in a forum with neurotic control-freak power-tripping moderators

[delawaredan]

[Sacateca]

Uncle Sam wrote:As far as men go, it is not what they are that interests me, but what they can become.
Jean-Paul Sartre
I will add that what we are becoming is much more important than what we are

[glance left]

"intelligence of the body"



It is real...and it is a vast resource hardly ever tapped (by me! )

[rosygyro]

Uncle Sam wrote:The conceptual mind has a role but is only a very small part of the whole being. By itself, that small part can never understand. The tragedy is that the little part has been conditioned to believe it can understand. The path Reb Johnson points us toward is a better direction toward understanding what Gurdjieff left for us than the dark, craggy, lifeless path recommended by those who put their faith only in the conceptual mind. The top heavy intellectual who in all things trusts only in that tiny part of himself, denying and rejecting the intelligence of the body and the intelligence of feeling, with stubborn, mechanized partiality to the "critical techniques of analysis and synthesis" as was drummed into the heads of recent generations in our ordinary education, is the one more likely destined for the lunatic asylum as "psychopath squared." The spiritual search is a movement. The movement can lead in a direction of wholeness, in which mind, body and feeling become better related and in balance, facilitating a finer understanding not otherwise accessible to us. Castaneda's journey is an interesting study from the standpoint of the movement toward and away from wholeness. To reject offhand everything Castaneda gave on the featherweight grounds some critics have suggested would be silly. As for Castaneda's writings, it is far better to read those works for oneself. As Reb Johnson rightly suggests - don't judge a man (or his work) by the tales of others.Yeah it like if you unravelled and mapped the entire human DNA helix.. the part for the mind would be tiny..

[jumpingmouse]

Nice, G

[jumpingmouse]

I appreciate you chiming in, and saying what I'd like to have.   Your response was much more eloquent than I could have come up with.   I don't wish to attack anyone's views, only to express a different one, similar to yours.  Merci.  jumpingmouse

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