04-27-2006, 12:00 AM
In the ..... "New members post here", -thread the topic of the 'void' came up, and I wondered if anybody else, besides myself, wanted to expand on it further ......
Quoting Doctor Green:
"EVERY act, thought, and feeling must bring us Power. Then, when we have become Power, by filling ourselves with it, we must encounter Death. If we survive this, we must take the step of consciously moving into the Nahual.... I mean moving our fully aware AP into the Void!!! In my tradition, this is known as the Black Sun".
You certainly don't beat around the bush Doctor Green .... getting straight to the point !
From SR Archives:
Quote:Teotihuacan / History, Philosophy & Spirit
The history of the Toltec culture at Teotihuacan is shrouded in mystery. It is speculated that around the year 500 AD the Toltec Naguals and all their parties had learned how to transmute, to go through the Black Sun to the place of creation. The entire culture is believed to have transmuted leaving the pyramids of Teotihuacan in overgrown abandonment until they were uncovered 500 years later( around 1000 AD) by the Aztecs.
The Aztec were ruthless warriors who in their time conquered much of Mexico. The Aztecs were attracted to the Pyramid and adopted them as their own. However, unlike the Toltecs, the Aztecs used their Power to control outside of themselves, instead of using Power to change ones own perception and action. They misunderstood the records of the Toltec teachings found at the pyramids and misused them. The Toltecs taught of the giving of the open heart to the Sun. Taking the lesson literally the Aztecs performed human sacrifice, offering the heart to the sun.
The teachings of the Toltecs of Teotihuacan reside in the place, in the stones. The ancient Naguals energetically fed teachings to the sacred places. We can perceive this energy and teachings when we are open to changing our perception out of the old dream. Some ascended Naguals chose to stay in this dream, in what can be perceived by seers and dreamers as an 'upper grid' above Teotihuacan. They witness, guide and support our renewed work at Teotihuacan.
M. Ruiz
Quote Saranica:
"lets take that step.
into the void, from the void we come.
I'm here, we dream together since the beggining of time)
Two days ago in my dreams i met a man who had died and who going through the stages after death. Don't ask me which they are, i don't really knew them. Bu t idreamt i died and went through the stages again with him. One of them was a blackness with a lightin the n=middle-yes, like a tunnel, but it wasn't the first stage and it was hardly the last".
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Don't want to get all dark, gloomy & doomy or bring scary "stuff" into here ....... but.
It seems that if one is a Tantric or Shamanic practitioner .... "death's doorway" does come sometimes, but not as death, but rather like an ally.
It seems, that if we are intent on going "beyond-the-mind" .... i.e. intent on freeing our awareness energy (free and independent will) from the "dual entrapment" of the mind/world ... a path of "unification" starts to take place. An AP shift journey where we need to come into a balance of our own animal/spirit .... male/female .... life/death sides .... by synthesising, unifying these polar opposites......within ourselves.
Briefly here met an Aboriginal Elder like that .... a person who had become into a balance between the said polarities within himself, and this made him such a powerful person within, you could feel it. It was as though he had conquered all his own inner fears and become "at-one" with himself and his world ... by becoming zero .... therefore he could turn into anything at any time, he was totally unpredictable i.e. he no longer was bound by any standards of ordinary conventions.
To meet an integrated person like that, is a bit like facing one's own, unspoken ... worst fears .... (fears which we however usually project onto that other person).
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Somebody had written that meditation is like deep sea diving. Sooner or later you are going to meet up with some offbeat lookin' critters. The point being, that wherever you go there you are.
The same thing can be said about AP shifts .... wherever you go, there you are. AP shifts not being dangerous per se, but the situation can potentially become dangerous if the mind cannot accept what is happening as real and starts fighting the AP shift .... or alternatively the mind can get too morbidly obsessed, thus freezing the flow of the situation .....
This said "death's doorway" seems to be one of the AP's our awareness in Spirit Guidance ...can shift into ....on this "unification path".
When death becomes imminent, the presence of "blackness" comes and surrounds or covers us like a black cloak. Immense, excruciating pressure is felt on our AP .... really putting one "on the spot."
So if this happens, best just take the situation for real and accept it as your ground of awareness, relaxing into it just living with it, curiously watching the flow ..... because soon something else starts to happen ..... that "blackness" turning into a kind of an ecstasy (ex-statis = "to stand outside of oneself") .... awareness a bit like a "witness on wings" or a "witness to unfoldment" .... where one becomes the dance and the tuneless tune of the Universe as well as total stillness (a zero point) .... and "radiance" starts to "sing" or shine through everything, communicating direct inner knowing (beyond mind's dual interpretations) & the feeling also being like the whole Universe had become synchronistic all at once ....
In regards to Buddhist understanding about black awareness grounds ....
Quote:Black signifies the primordial darkness in Buddhism. In the realm where it is dark, because there is no light reflected, there is a sound which we cannot hear as it is so high on the scale of harmonics that it is inaccessible to the hearing capacity of any physical being. The wonders of creation may be manifested through the gradual slowing down of vibrations. The darkness becomes light, the shadows colors, the colors sound, and sound creates form.
Black is the color of hate, transmuted by the alchemy of wisdom into the ultimate-reality-perfection wisdom. It is not that darkness is the absolute; the void is not nothingness. Darkness represents the imminence of the absolute, the threshold of experience. The absolute itself is rather the clear-light transparency within which all relative forms and vulnerable living things are sustained. But the dark connotes death, which enlightenment converts into the Body of Truth.
In a way I see this kind of "death's doorway" AP as a "portal" ... as a "place", where one discovers and "attains" (by attaining nothing) ..."The Primordial State of Eternity" .... by being hit by life and death simultaneously ( black void and luminosity/clear light radiating out of that void i.e. the "tune").
This AP ... "portal state", also seems to be ... a "place", where we can turn our emptiness (zero point) or inner purity into fire of passion, passion which in no time burns away all one's "Karma", because of the intensity of the AP being on that "spot" ....( where there is no way of sustaining that AP than being absolutely impeccably nothing, yet thus being everything at the same time).
Also at this "spot" it seems, one can literally "light up" all one's multidimensional "bodies" by awareness light.
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This being such a looooooooooooong story of a brief AP shift I had a year and a half ago .... which has left me in a bitava "limbo" .... not quite daring to attempt to repeat the shift and move forward, but then not finding any other alternative directions either ....
**********************
Does your "Journey into The Black Sun" relate to this kind of AP shift story Doctor Green ?
Anybody else ?
Artnwere
Quoting Doctor Green:
"EVERY act, thought, and feeling must bring us Power. Then, when we have become Power, by filling ourselves with it, we must encounter Death. If we survive this, we must take the step of consciously moving into the Nahual.... I mean moving our fully aware AP into the Void!!! In my tradition, this is known as the Black Sun".
You certainly don't beat around the bush Doctor Green .... getting straight to the point !
From SR Archives:
Quote:Teotihuacan / History, Philosophy & Spirit
The history of the Toltec culture at Teotihuacan is shrouded in mystery. It is speculated that around the year 500 AD the Toltec Naguals and all their parties had learned how to transmute, to go through the Black Sun to the place of creation. The entire culture is believed to have transmuted leaving the pyramids of Teotihuacan in overgrown abandonment until they were uncovered 500 years later( around 1000 AD) by the Aztecs.
The Aztec were ruthless warriors who in their time conquered much of Mexico. The Aztecs were attracted to the Pyramid and adopted them as their own. However, unlike the Toltecs, the Aztecs used their Power to control outside of themselves, instead of using Power to change ones own perception and action. They misunderstood the records of the Toltec teachings found at the pyramids and misused them. The Toltecs taught of the giving of the open heart to the Sun. Taking the lesson literally the Aztecs performed human sacrifice, offering the heart to the sun.
The teachings of the Toltecs of Teotihuacan reside in the place, in the stones. The ancient Naguals energetically fed teachings to the sacred places. We can perceive this energy and teachings when we are open to changing our perception out of the old dream. Some ascended Naguals chose to stay in this dream, in what can be perceived by seers and dreamers as an 'upper grid' above Teotihuacan. They witness, guide and support our renewed work at Teotihuacan.
M. Ruiz
Quote Saranica:
"lets take that step.
into the void, from the void we come.
I'm here, we dream together since the beggining of time)
Two days ago in my dreams i met a man who had died and who going through the stages after death. Don't ask me which they are, i don't really knew them. Bu t idreamt i died and went through the stages again with him. One of them was a blackness with a lightin the n=middle-yes, like a tunnel, but it wasn't the first stage and it was hardly the last".
***************************************************
Don't want to get all dark, gloomy & doomy or bring scary "stuff" into here ....... but.
It seems that if one is a Tantric or Shamanic practitioner .... "death's doorway" does come sometimes, but not as death, but rather like an ally.
It seems, that if we are intent on going "beyond-the-mind" .... i.e. intent on freeing our awareness energy (free and independent will) from the "dual entrapment" of the mind/world ... a path of "unification" starts to take place. An AP shift journey where we need to come into a balance of our own animal/spirit .... male/female .... life/death sides .... by synthesising, unifying these polar opposites......within ourselves.
Briefly here met an Aboriginal Elder like that .... a person who had become into a balance between the said polarities within himself, and this made him such a powerful person within, you could feel it. It was as though he had conquered all his own inner fears and become "at-one" with himself and his world ... by becoming zero .... therefore he could turn into anything at any time, he was totally unpredictable i.e. he no longer was bound by any standards of ordinary conventions.
To meet an integrated person like that, is a bit like facing one's own, unspoken ... worst fears .... (fears which we however usually project onto that other person).
****************************************************
Somebody had written that meditation is like deep sea diving. Sooner or later you are going to meet up with some offbeat lookin' critters. The point being, that wherever you go there you are.
The same thing can be said about AP shifts .... wherever you go, there you are. AP shifts not being dangerous per se, but the situation can potentially become dangerous if the mind cannot accept what is happening as real and starts fighting the AP shift .... or alternatively the mind can get too morbidly obsessed, thus freezing the flow of the situation .....
This said "death's doorway" seems to be one of the AP's our awareness in Spirit Guidance ...can shift into ....on this "unification path".
When death becomes imminent, the presence of "blackness" comes and surrounds or covers us like a black cloak. Immense, excruciating pressure is felt on our AP .... really putting one "on the spot."
So if this happens, best just take the situation for real and accept it as your ground of awareness, relaxing into it just living with it, curiously watching the flow ..... because soon something else starts to happen ..... that "blackness" turning into a kind of an ecstasy (ex-statis = "to stand outside of oneself") .... awareness a bit like a "witness on wings" or a "witness to unfoldment" .... where one becomes the dance and the tuneless tune of the Universe as well as total stillness (a zero point) .... and "radiance" starts to "sing" or shine through everything, communicating direct inner knowing (beyond mind's dual interpretations) & the feeling also being like the whole Universe had become synchronistic all at once ....
In regards to Buddhist understanding about black awareness grounds ....
Quote:Black signifies the primordial darkness in Buddhism. In the realm where it is dark, because there is no light reflected, there is a sound which we cannot hear as it is so high on the scale of harmonics that it is inaccessible to the hearing capacity of any physical being. The wonders of creation may be manifested through the gradual slowing down of vibrations. The darkness becomes light, the shadows colors, the colors sound, and sound creates form.
Black is the color of hate, transmuted by the alchemy of wisdom into the ultimate-reality-perfection wisdom. It is not that darkness is the absolute; the void is not nothingness. Darkness represents the imminence of the absolute, the threshold of experience. The absolute itself is rather the clear-light transparency within which all relative forms and vulnerable living things are sustained. But the dark connotes death, which enlightenment converts into the Body of Truth.
In a way I see this kind of "death's doorway" AP as a "portal" ... as a "place", where one discovers and "attains" (by attaining nothing) ..."The Primordial State of Eternity" .... by being hit by life and death simultaneously ( black void and luminosity/clear light radiating out of that void i.e. the "tune").
This AP ... "portal state", also seems to be ... a "place", where we can turn our emptiness (zero point) or inner purity into fire of passion, passion which in no time burns away all one's "Karma", because of the intensity of the AP being on that "spot" ....( where there is no way of sustaining that AP than being absolutely impeccably nothing, yet thus being everything at the same time).
Also at this "spot" it seems, one can literally "light up" all one's multidimensional "bodies" by awareness light.
**********************
This being such a looooooooooooong story of a brief AP shift I had a year and a half ago .... which has left me in a bitava "limbo" .... not quite daring to attempt to repeat the shift and move forward, but then not finding any other alternative directions either ....
**********************
Does your "Journey into The Black Sun" relate to this kind of AP shift story Doctor Green ?
Anybody else ?
Artnwere