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"A petty tyrant is a tormentor," he replied. "Someone who either holds the
power of life and death over warriors, or simply annoys them to distraction."
Don Juan had a beaming smile as he spoke to me. He said that the new seers
developed their own classification of petty tyrants. Although the concept is one
of their most serious and important findings, the new seers had a sense of humor
about it. He assured me that there was a tinge of malicious humor in every one
of their classifications because humor was the only means of counteracting the
compulsion of human awareness to take inventories and to make cumbersome
classifications.
The new seers, in accordance with their practice, saw fit to head their
classification with the primal source of energy- the one and only ruler in the
universe- and they called it simply 'the tyrant'. The rest of the despots and
authoritarians were found to be, naturally, infinitely below the category of the
tyrant. Compared to the source of everything, the most fearsome and tyrannical
men are buffoons. Consequently, they were classified as petty tyrants, pinches
tiranos.
He said that there were two subclasses of minor petty tyrants. The first
subclass consisted of the petty tyrants who persecute and inflict misery but
without actually causing anybody's death. They were called little petty tyrants,
pinches tiranitos. The second consisted of the petty tyrants who are only
exasperating and bothersome to no end. They were called small-fry petty tyrants,
repinches tiranitos, or teensy-weensy petty tyrants, pinches tiranitos
chiquititos.
I thought his classifications were ludicrous. I was sure that he was
improvising the Spanish terms. I asked him if that was so.
"Not at all," he replied with an amused expression. "The new seers were great
ones for classifications. Genaro is doubtless one of the greatest. If you'd
observe him carefully, you'd realize exactly how the new seers feel about their
classifications."
He laughed uproariously at my confusion when I asked him if he was pulling my
leg.
"I wouldn't dream of doing that," he said, smiling. "Genaro may do that, but
not I, especially when I know how you feel about classifications. It's just that
the new seers were terribly irreverent."
He added that the little petty tyrants are further divided into four
categories: one that torments with brutality and violence, another that does it
by creating unbearable apprehension through deviousness, another which oppresses
with sadness, and the last which torments by making warriors rage.
"La Gorda is in a class of her own," he added. "She is an acting, small-fry
petty tyrant. She annoys you to pieces and makes you rage. She even slaps you.
With all that she is teaching you detachment."
"That's not possible!" I protested.
"You haven't yet put together all the ingredients of the new seers'
strategy," he said. "Once you do that, you'll know how efficient and clever is
the device of using a petty tyrant. I would certainly say that the strategy not
only gets rid of self-importance, it also prepares warriors for the final
realization that impeccability is the only thing that counts in the path of
knowledge."
My comment:
Since for most people seeking a Nagual is out of the question, simply because they can't handle a real teacher mind-fucking them endlessly (and they are probably unable to find a real Nagual anyway, let alone convince the chap to actually take them as students), I will suggest those supposedly serious people around here to seek out the most annoying individual they can find and spending some quality time with him/her.
No, people in the chat room doesn't count. It has to be an **** close to your vicinities. Or don't. Be yourself a petty tyrant or (God forbid!) a Petit Nagual. Show the way to other morons that are easily impressed with fancy words and deep reflections. It works. I've done it for years.
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Well I have to admit I have dealt with my share of petty tyrants in my time, but I dont feel the need for them now. Im not saying Ive totally taken out my SI, but I have conquered quite a bit of it. I think the petty tyrant is mainly necessary for the one who has problems with the SI more than anything. Its not always a good sign them showing up cause it means you have a lot of work to do. But Spirit will certainly lay them in your path if you're still really self-important.
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Good point. So the petty tyrant is NOT a person, it IS self-importance.
Is the self importance us? Hell no! It is a foreign installation!
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Tiff wrote:
Good point. So the petty tyrant is NOT a person, it IS self-importance.
Is the self importance us? Hell no! It is a foreign installation!Also a good point Which kind of begs the question: what creates self importance? If it is the foreign installation, then self importance would be our downfall.
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Yes, its about avoiding it all together. Its one of those easier said than done things, lol, since we learn it, learn how to perpetuate it so we feel quite "close" to it. But still, it's not who we are.
Then the question arises on how to deal with it. My experience is that no one should ever feel bad or ashamed for having a self-important moment. Because that very shame is the opening for the SI in the first place. I think its better we laugh at ourselves in a loving way and know we are not petty, ever. And then we have to feel that same way about other people, that they are not petty. We can just say its the FI and its foreign to us and we intend to be rid of it, but if we get caught...okay, just laugh and know there's a next time and next time to fight again. To me this is the most effective way.
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Yes sounds good. They do say laughter is the best medicine, and we do need to laugh at ourselves and our folly sometimes. Still try to control it yes! But on the road to perfection, we're going to find we're not so perfect, and we're going to have our moments.
*dusts self off, try try again*!
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Yes, not perfect in the perfect moments of perfection.
And I just had another realization. Not all people are ready to not see other people as petty. For these people...they should go down that path and fully engage with the petty tyrant (as a person) until they are fully satisfied they have exhausted their interest in the matter. For them, there's no other way. And they will still progress on their path in doing this. Its just a much more energy taxing way to proceed, and eventually I believe everyone realizes this.
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Yes, it appears I'm being a real post whore today (as someone once ((lovingly I'm sure)) called me =) Personally I prefer to be called a post "lady of the evening". Just FEI (for everyone's information).
I used to do this thing (haven't done it lately...but you never know) when I had a hard time accepting some truth that was not flattering to self-image, lets say. I would do a Jack Nicholson voice and tell myself it was because"You can't handle the truth!" Then, after it was no big deal, after I laughed about it, I could handle the truth and would actually forget it and move on...to bigger and better things?
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If one reads the books of Castaneda with the concept of much of the teachings/training is built upon defeating the foreign installation, one quickly realizes self importance is key in this battle.
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is how you catch petty tyrants..
well its how you tackle their energy directly...
1)allow yourself to be malisciously abused by a petty tyrant over many years!
2) continue allowing yourself to be driven into the ground by the petty tyrant!
3) Oneday.. in your MEST world of thousands of people... say.. "ALL CHANGE" and decide to live creativly and be totally free...
4) NOTICE an entire section of people within your total MEST will seem to have a vested interest in you continueing to be driven into the ground..
These people are logical, cruel, possessive and vampiric in nature...they tend to be resistance seers.. if they are seers at all!
Once you can direct your focus.. it is up to you how to challenge them..
My personal trick is to take the idea of energy fibre exchange...
and isolate the fibres in my being that are a) most honourable and b) most painful to utilise..
essentially the idea is.. that the petty tyrant will not be able to interact energeticly without either setting up an immpeccable challenge within his own tonal..
as you already have immpeccable challenegs in your tonal.. the sheer process of life will either drift you away from each other.. or into a more meaningfull relationship from which you both can develop..
A petty tyrant considers himself an observer this lifetime.. and of the processess of life..
he will have an abundance of logical ideas about the procession we make toward our deaths..
he may keep books on world wars..
he could closet.. images..
of pyramids of human skulls in cambodia.. or mountains of jewish spectacles in germany.., mass graves etc...
he considers himself to be slightly outside of death.. and so he can see yours...
if he likes you.. he may.. just possibly let you live as nearly a man with equal chances to himself!
if he doeasnt...
If you dont exercise he will predict heart failure
if you smoke he will predict cancer..
if you fall in love he will predict heartbreak
if you look stressed he will predict a variety of physchological disorders..
whatever you are.. he will decide some time based link to a death "quicker than his" and judge you with it!
DARK SEERS..." they all need a good kicking".
and heres how----
The dead sorcers of the old age.. HAVE TWO EYES..
wether these are the remnants of their connection to THE LEFT AND RIGHT PHYLUM is not in question..
(the sorcerer is in the box.. and died eons ago)
all petty tyrants and dark seers utilise ONE of these EYES or seers bubbles to percieve. with... and the other THEY INHABIT..
as such they have one ROOM to feel secure in.. and another to inflict tyranical thought and energy on others..
THE TRICK..
THE TRICK IS TO USE THEY "YELLOE ROSE OF FRIENDSHIP"
Theyellow rose symbolises life turning perfectly in accordance with the rythm of the divine..
and also 2PRECEDES manifestation"
So.. as soon as you identify a dark seer or tyrant..
a) appreciate he has no basis.. -as the spirit for he originates from has long since passed..
and is more connected to the yellow rose that precedes all of manifestation.. than it is to a sigle human being!
secondly begin to switch his rooms back and forth to force him into balance...
here is the same man in the codex nuttal
(The dead sorcerer)
he can be seen holding onto the two femine power cores.. for creative energy theft..
and he also has two eyes dangling from the one you can see in profile..
ONCE YOU HAVE IDENTIFIED A SORCER.. YOU MUST USURP A)HIS CONNECTION TO THE FEMININE.. AND B) HIS CONNECTION TO MATTER..
THIS IS SIMPLY DONE BY INJECTING THE PLANES AND SPINDLES ASPECTS OF HIS INTELLIGENCE.. WITH ALL THE POWER YOU HAVE ACCRUED AS AN IMMPECCABLE WARRIOR.. AS WELL AS KNOWLEDGE OF INTELLIGENT CO-OPERATION IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE YELLOW ROSE OF FRIENDSHIP!
THIS WILL INJECT SPIRIT LESSONS INTO HIS PERCEPTION.. MEANING HE WILL BECOME TO BUSY DEALING WITH HIS OWN UNRESOLVED CHALLENGES TO TACKLE OR PISS YOU OFF ANYMORE...
AND HERES WHAT HE LOOKS LIKE ONCE HE HAS BEEN ATTATCHED TO THE SPIRIT LESSON HE SO DESTERATLEY TRIES TO AVOID!
ALL HIS POWER IS DRAINED,, AWAY FROM HIS HANDS.. AND INTO A root CHAKRA.. THAT DIRECTS HIS EASTERLY INTELLIGENCE.. AND HENCE RULES HIS PERCEPTION AND MOVEMENTS IN THE SORCERERS WORLD FROM THAT DAY FORWARD, (TODAY).
tHIS was A PICTURE FROM 400 PLUS YEARS AGO!.. IT IS OLDER THAN ANY LIVING VESSEL OF LIFE ON OUR PLANET EXCEPT POSSIBLY SOME TREES..
HERE IS THE SAME SORCERER BEING DESTROYED BY AN "easterly force"
tHE TRICK IS TO NOT LET THE EASTERLY FORCE TEAR YOU FROM YOUR ROOTS.. AND USURP YOUR CONNECTION TO MATTER..
AND TO NOT LET THE OLD SORCERER.. USURP YOUR CONNECTION TO MATTER.. AND HENCE MAKE YOU LOSE SIGHT OF THE EAST!
THIS MACHINE IS OLDER THAN ANY LIVING HUMAN..
THE EASTERLY MACHINE IS YOUNGER THAN OUR GREAT GREAT GRANDCHILDREN..
MACHINES= PLANES AND SPINDLES
I cannot stress the importance.. enough.. of being very care full when hitting the present with the easterly force...
the west at least keeps your feet on the ground albiet sometimes painfully..
the east will make you vague, undetermined and easy to manipulate.. unless you stay grounded..
particularly if you are a female..
once we realise that the lack of forebearance is the root problem of energy streaminf from the sorceric core...
we realise that some areas of our being must stop in the present..
i.e. THE BUCK STOPS HERE.. only in this instance it is from something that stems from the percieved self...
This picture shows an unforeborne thorne of intent...
it is basicly the product of trying to look to someone in your future and then accidentally hitting them with the energy from your depthsd you do not control.. by luei of its antiquity...
AS I HAVE SAID THE TRICK IS TO UNDERCUT ANTIQUITY WITH THE CONCEPT OF MANIFESTATION AS IT PRECEDES ALL LIFE IN ALL PREVIOUS TIMES..
BUT ALSO THE TRICK IS TO ENSURE THAT THE FUTURE IS NOT FORCED AWAY FROM US BY OUR OWN PROJECTION..
THIS IS THE SEERS MODULE THAT EPITOMISES THE ENERGY I TALK ABOUT!
IT LOOKS A BIT LIKE A CHINESE JUNK AND A BIT LIKE A GYPSY SPIRIT!
THE SPIKE/HORN/THORN/BLADE.. ON THE LEFT IS THE AREA YOU MUST FOREBEAR..I.E. PREVENT FROM EXTENDING FROM THE SELF THROUGH THE MIND!
THE SPIRAL IS THE INHEARNT PAST..
THE CENTRAL DOORWAY IS THE SELF.. TRYING TO KEEP BALANCE...(ESSENTIALLY TRYING TO EPITOMISE THE OLD SORCERERS ENERGY FORM IN WARRIOR FORM RATHER THAN AS A PETTY TYRANT!)
THE YELLOW ROSE ENCAPSULATES THE WHOLE BUNDLE!
ONCE THIS SHIP IS BALANCED WHO CARES.. THE OLD SORCERERS WILL HAVE ALIGNED AND THE FUTURE WILL BECKON!
iF THE SORCERS TWO EYES CAN BE "STOLEN" BY THE WARRIORS OF FREEDOM.. AND ATTUNED WITH EASTERLY INTELLIGENCE...
ONE EY CAN BECOME IMMPECCABLE INHERANT AWARNESS.. AND HENC E DESTROY THE NEED FOR RECAPITULATION AS OUR PASTS WILL SLIP STREAM IN UNISON..
THE OTHER EYE CAN BECOME A COLLECTIVE VISION AS IT IMPACTS THE PRESENT FORM THE EAST!
AND THE ENTIRE PLANETARY FOCUS WILL.. AS THEUN DESCRIBES IT.. PERFORM "the ninety degree shift".
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Petty Tyrants, we all have them, and probably we are all thankful for the lessons and subsequent wisdom they impart on us. Most of us can look back on our lives and see people who were Tyrants, and how they taught us about ourselves, helped us become less self important and helped us to reach a higher place. We don't always have PTs in our life, but when they arrive, we ought to be thankful for the gift.
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When my ex used to get mad at me he would yell and go on and on and on about an issue, and then try to make me say things like "Im an ****." Or "Im stupid for doing this and that." On and on and on he would go. And it wasn't until I picked up techniques in dealing with a petty tyrant that I was able to sever the attachment of my own self importance. My own poor me for ending up in the mess I did. I had to do away with it. But no matter how much he kicked, moaned screamed at the top of his lungs, he never got me to say, "Im an ****," or I'm stupid" he never got me to give in and say those things. So I found little subtle ways of defeating my petty tyrant.
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To face a petty tyrant is the hardest thing. I would say its the same as facing death. It defeats you, and you know all you can do is be defeated.
If you allow yourself to be defeated, the petty tyrant won't bother you any longer, because what gets defeated is the petty tyrant.
(edited to stay on topic. the thread in its entirety is in Oblivion)
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Nu Lang wrote:To face a petty tyrant is the hardest thing. I would say its the same as facing death. It defeats you, and you know all you can do is be defeated. Was Carlos an ****?
If you allow yourself to be defeated, the petty tyrant won't bother you any longer, because what gets defeated is the petty tyrant.Hmmm?
Not sure I am 100 percent understanding what you are saying here.
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Nu Lang wrote:If you allow yourself to be defeated, the petty tyrant won't bother you any longer, because what gets defeated is the petty tyrant.Can you explain what you mean by "If you allow yourself to be defeated."? How does your PT defeat you?
When I look at this, for example, I don't see it as you being defeated, so I guess that's what has me stumped here.
The freedom arrives when the petty tyrant no longer affects you. You are in their presence and they are the same they have always been. Annoying to no end, distracting and even disruptive but they just don’t have the same affect on you anymore. You are no longer annoyed or imbalanced by them. You have accomplished the feat of shifting your assemblage point so that you no longer perceive annoyances in the same manner you did in the past and you have successfully severed the energetic stronghold that the petty tyrant had on your self-importance. In fact you can’t even remember what it was that annoyed you so much in the first place.
This is the gift. The petty tyrant pushes and pushes and pushes until the very thing(s) that bothered you about them in the first place no longer doTo me, then this seems as though you have 'defeated' your PT, at least the current one.
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Can you explain what you mean by "If you allow yourself to be defeated."? How does your PT defeat you?
When you allow that part of you that is not really you but claims to and wants to run the show and always be right, when you defeat that part, you get your real self back. Its humble, its silent, its solitary and in awe of the true source of power which is not from mind or reason. You realize the world is all just folly. What was defeated was the thing that makes it all seem so important and serious and that you either 'get or are gotten' by fellow man. So when you face the tyrant,... in order to 'win', you have to make an extraordinary sacrifice. You have to leave that world completely behind.
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Nu Lang wrote:When you allow that part of you that is not really you but claims to and wants to run the show and always be right, when you defeat that part, you get your real self back. Its humble, its silent, its solitary and in awe of the true source of power which is not from mind or reason. You realize the world is all just folly. What was defeated was the thing that makes it all seem so important and serious and that you either 'get or are gotten' by fellow man. So when you face the tyrant,... in order to 'win', you have to make an extraordinary
sacrifice. You have to leave that world completely behind.So you defeat your SI, rather than the tyrant defeating you, gotcha, thanks so much for explaining.
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I meant how datura's old bf called her an ****. Ok, first I'll explain what happened. I just read a post where she called Carlos an ****, then I come here and read her post here about not wanting to be called one...standing her ground with bf on that. So I decided to ask her about Carlos...I saw later after you asked me about it that the way I typed it it was not clear. At the time I figured she'd make the connection. I did it because the timing seemed relevant...just reading a post of hers prior to this, so I felt it was an omen for her to self stalk that if she wants to.
And it was relevant for me too. I saw how easy it is for I or anyone to call someone an **** and it seems so very harmless, especially if they don't hear us. I've done it and I'm sure everyone has done it. But then if someone is calling us that and sending the intent to us that we should 'accept' their view, its a different feeling altogether. But looking at the intent of both, is it really that different? When I call someone an ****, I am not thinking about it being done to me, I am not feeling the intent "sent" to me. If I did think this, I would not do it. And so I though it fit the topic of petty tyrant in that its intent that needs to be examined.
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So you defeat your SI, rather than the tyrant defeating you, gotcha, thanks so much for explaining.
Yes I can see now how that original wording could be read another way too. Well, actually, yes, but there is a moment that may feel like you are actually allowing the tyrant to defeat you. This is the hardest moment of all. But since you give the permission...its your choice, you allowed it and its your act. But feeling-wise... to go through it, it does not feel that way. That's why so few people can do it.It feels like selling yourself out. But its not and the tyrant does not even have to ever know you are doing it. You do it for yourself, your freedom to live as a warrior free of agreements that weren't yours to begin with, such as the preditorial agreement...eat or be eaten.
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And when you allow yourself to be "defeated" it does not reveal how you respond to the tyrant. Such as, one may conclude you would be humble or patient with the tyrant. In truth you don't have to "be" any way with them. You could yell at them if it seemed the thing to do but if behind your yelling there was no feeling of hurt or intent to overpower, your acts would bear the mark of power(the abstract) same as if you walked away, bowed before the tyrant, pleaded with them, whatever using that same detached intent. Power however would indicate to you how to respond best rather then you having to 'think' of a response. So the outward behavior is not pre-known or implied. Also, the nagual (abstract) adapts to the warrior, so if the warrior is humorous, the response may very well contain humor, but if the warrior is serious, the response may be serious, predilections factor in. These are just costumes, and whats inside of one who has truly freed themselves...others will not see that because they cannot if they are not also free, instead they will see the tyrant looking back at them.
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Nu Lang wrote:Well, actually, yes, but there is a moment that may feel like you are actually allowing the tyrant to defeat you. This is the hardest moment of all. But since you give the permission...its your choice, you allowed it and its your act. But feeling-wise... to go through it, it does not feel that way. That's why so few people can do it.It feels like selling yourself out. But its not and the tyrant does not even have to ever know you are doing it. You do it for yourself, your freedom to live as a warrior free of agreements that weren't yours to begin with, such as the preditorial agreement...eat or be eaten.I do agree that we defeat tyrants for oursleves, for our own freedom! bingo. But in my experience when dealing with PTs, and there was a time in my life when I had (needed) a lot of them, the only time I felt defeated was when I was playing their game, when I was buying what they were selling me. When I realized, you know the aha! moment, that this person was my PT and that I was allowing my SI to feed his cause, is when I felt like I had won, or at least begun to win the battle with the tyrant. So I can't say, that in my personal experiences with petty tyrants, that I have felt the defeat at the moment you describe above or the selling out. I feel like the minute I saw the situation for what it was, I was on top of the game and any chance the PT had previously had for defeating me was over, I had the upper hand.
Luckily I haven't had any PTs for a while. I say luckily, even though the original post describes what a gift they are on our Path, because I feel like I am over the need for them, at least for now, having given myself many many opportunities to work with PTs in the past. I have, though, on occasion had a couple of PT moments, but those have been moments when I have said to myself "Hey, wait a second, check your SI here!" lol so that is always a blessing, for sure!
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Anyone who joins the petty tyrant is defeated. To act in anger, without control and discipline, to have no forbearance, is to be defeated.
After warriors are defeated they either regroup themselves or they abandon the quest for knowledge and join the ranks of the petty tyrants for life.
~Fire From Within
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I know what the words are saying...but seeing the intent in words...its different. Because words have dual or sometimes multiple meanings. When I say defeated, I mean the part that is 'not us' is defeated. It feels like defeat momentarily due to association, but once severed, then the defeat is no longer, but one is humble due to being in their true mind.
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The two minds
"Every one of us human beings has two minds. One is totally ours, and it is like a faint voice that always brings us order, directness, purpose, The other mind is a foreign installation. It brings us conflict, self-assertion, doubts, hopelessness: it's ourselves as the me-me center of the world."
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"We are not naturally petty and contradictory. Our pettiness and contradictions are, rather, the result of a transcendental conflict that afflicts every one of us, but of which only sorcerers are painfully and hopelessly aware: the conflict of our two minds! One is our true mind, the product of all our life experiences, the one that rarely speaks because it has been defeated and relegated to obscurity. The other, the mind we use daily for everything we do, is a foreign installation."
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"To resolve the conflict of the two minds is a matter of intending it. Sorcerers beckon intent by voicing the word intent loud and clear. Intent is a force that exists in the universe. When sorcerers beckon intent, it comes to them and sets up the path for attainment, which means that sorcerers always accomplish what they set out to do."
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"You have simply run out of time.
Your malady is a very simple one: your world is coming to an end. It is the end of an era for you. Do you think that the world you have known all your life is going to leave you peacefully, without any fuss or muss? No! It will wriggle underneath you, and hit you with its tail."
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"But an era doesn't really come to an end until the king dies. You are the king."
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"Any haunting memory of your recollections can come only from your true mind. The other mind that we all have and share is, I would say, a cheap model: economy strength, one size fits all. But this is a subject that we will discuss later."
-ASOI
The petty tyrant serves the function to enliven our false mind. Once this happens, a warrior then reaches a juncture where a choice has to be made, either continue defending oneself through assertions, which is the false mind, or allow that mind its defeat, which is not our defeat, but while we are identified with it it seems that way. Once this false mind is defeated, there is no more petty tyrant. Not even anyone around to boast abotu it. Our true mind in not like the false one in any sense. I remember Don Juan saying the true mind is shy by comparison, due to begin so inactive our whole life. It is the sum total of our experiences. There is no reflection in the true mind, no agreements with me-me. From the perspective of the true mind, we can only accept acts for what they are. The world is chock full of people asserting the false mind. To be in the true mind and see this does not give one a sense of bravado, to enter into that would be to reengage the false mind.
"The end of an era means that the units of a foreign cognition are beginning to take hold. The units of your normal cognition, no matter how pleasant and rewarding they are for you, are beginning to fade. A grave moment in the life of a man!"
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