What is recapitulation and how to do it...

[shamanka]

trust you enjoy this video...

[Julio Juliopolis]

Thanks for making the video. I have a much better idea what to do during recapitulation now.

[Absyllyon]

Hi Shamaka. Did you intend anything else in this video. Watching it is a little uncomfortable as I experience pulsing pressure waves on my eardrums from the sound of your voice.
Whilst doing the fanning do you feel any energetic movement or is it mostly focused on the visual?

[Billy]

There is nothing in the equation that I do not rise above.  You are pure.

[rosygyro]

How to recapitulate.

Throw the spear of destiny
one it is in flight where it came from is the past.
break the spear in half mid flight-
analyse the broken ends - the gap between its parts is the present.
the broken fore the future
the broken aft the past-

of the past
of the future
of the sliding break.

the broken ends remain in the present even though the aft of the shaft accumulates over time
the fore broken end threatens to shrink or expand, both bring terror.

-Recapitulation is more than simply memory

-on the warriors path you will have sucesses and failures
recapitulaton is the energetic perception of these portions of unresolved tonal once illusion of the habitual has been stripped from perception.

these recapitulations make op the detail of the root of your next lifeform incarnation.

because recapitulation proper( on death) is basicly geared by your mistakes as you unravvel without form
the art of recapitulating in life gives a chance to be ready for the great unravveling, to know the nature of the unravveling
and ultimatley to escape the unravveling.

it should be noted that escape is only possible under certain conditions
conditions that must be earned.

[rosygyro]

the sword of power is less like a sword and more like a ribbon of steel, it curves and winds its way along subtleties in discrimination we dare not amalgamateand then from the east comes the wind of potentiality, catching the steel by its curves like a sail in a galethe sword blown by the wind carves the suturing of the spear.the sword blown by the wind is the mad mind of the easterly seer.
we see perhaps 5% of the total swordand when we react to that 5%the 95% echoes universal power.
once again there is an escape
it is the join between power at your command, and your will commanded by power.what ever you do, don't fight it.

[glance left]

"because recapitulation proper( on death) is basicly geared by your mistakes as you unravvel without form
the art of recapitulating in life gives a chance to be ready for the great unravveling, to know the nature of the unravveling
and ultimatley to escape the unraveling"

A new list of the "sticky" parts that needs review and further resolution or "unravelling". The most prominent issue for me is a compulsive clinging to pleasure, comfort, stability, solace....and, conversely, a compulsive aversion to dysphoria, pain, suffering, fear, disdain for "pit falls" etc.

The list......looking back where historical precedence was established...using the recapitulation breath to go as deep as I can into those moments of clinging/aversion and to allow the breath to unravel and recover what's left ensnared in those moments, creating space...release. (As WG mentioned in another thread....space is the place where alignment takes place . And then, the intent to silence....vigil....sustained awareness to remain in that open, allowing space (forbearance, as I see it) as I go forward to meet those inevitable moments of pleasure and pain as they came.....to simply watch and give them room to go as they pass. Coming and going.....but something amidst this coming and going simply stays put and watches....remaining detached and free. That's the intent, for me

[rosygyro]

glance left wrote:"because recapitulation proper( on death) is basicly geared by your mistakes as you unravvel without form
the art of recapitulating in life gives a chance to be ready for the great unravveling, to know the nature of the unravveling
and ultimatley to escape the unraveling"

A new list of the "sticky" parts that needs review and further resolution or "unravelling". The most prominent issue for me is a compulsive clinging to pleasure, comfort, stability, solace....and, conversely, a compulsive aversion to dysphoria, pain, suffering, fear, disdain for "pit falls" etc.

The list......looking back where historical precedence was established...using the recapitulation breath to go as deep as I can into those moments of clinging/aversion and to allow the breath to unravel and recover what's left ensnared in those moments, creating space...release. (As WG mentioned in another thread....space is the place where alignment takes place . And then, the intent to silence....vigil....sustained awareness to remain in that open, allowing space (forbearance, as I see it) as I go forward to meet those inevitable moments of pleasure and pain as they came.....to simply watch and give them room to go as they pass. Coming and going.....but something amidst this coming and going simply stays put and watches....remaining detached and free. That's the intent, for meSo theres this guy who wants to recapitulate..
at some point in his life he was sexually abused and raped over time -(prison, bad cousins or some ****)
later on in life causing remanifestation of base chakra discord and sexual subconsious demons in the present.
He needs to recapitulate.
 Later however on he through the hiring of services or finding of love became closely involved with a dominatrix
who proceeded to *** all the **** out of his ass. He no longer remanifested base chakra discord or had any energetic tensions
to manifest subconsious pressure.
i.e. he no longer feels any need to recapitulate/
........................
It seems fairly obvious that on his recapitulation proper he is still going to have to deal with his bad cousins and prison time.
He will also have to deal with the weaker attatchment he made to the dominatrix
which although not particularly unkind was an easy distraction from his recapitulation intent.
.......................
..............
.....
This is kind of the way i see warriorship and sobriety.
the warrior is hooked apon the recapitulation points he needs to address
and the sobrietic is willfully planted apon a tonal which no longer challenges them as warrior.
.......
apon death the sobrietic will still be attached to prison at a root of their totality.
its just it will be a surprise after all the ease in between.
should he try to recapitualte his prison time versus his willfully dominated time
he will find his will is crippling him through his desires
he is too hedonistic to recapitulate.
.
sobriety.

[glance left]

So, take home point (can't speak to that guy's situation, specifically....it's too rhetorical)...don't be too hedonistic to recapitulate. Being too hedonistic to recapitulate means just putting off the inevitable....being "surprised", as you say, by what's left undone when the "putting off" can't be sustained any longer. Yeah, I get that. I see a tendency in me to do that.

Hedonism, on the one hand....and masochism on the other. Both are distorted. One, the procrastination...and two, the desperate attempt to get it all over with sooner than what appropriate pacing would allow for. Anyway, that's rhetorical too, given I've no taste for seeking out pain/suffering. I'm imbalanced on the pleasure side of things.

Sobriety, I guess, is taking an honest, clear look at things as they are. Perennially, actively looking for what's still active....sticky...from day to day and upholding the intent to be perennially unraveling what comes to light.

[rosygyro]

i dont really discriminate between the lifer prison rapist who chooses to displace a portion of every man in the joint
and the dominatrix female who chooses to displace a bit of every man or woman in her brothel.
the rent boy who cheats a bit of every john or the female inmate who dominates lesser fems.

At the end of the day these people.. are those who want to inhabit  a portion of humans in a general sense
wether they be a string of clients or the long term changeover of inmates in their block.
they want to know that physically they are the penetrator.

imagine for a moment the recapitulation of the penetrator
they dont want to unfuck any of the people they have once penetrated..
would rather create a long term phallus for all to be ensnared apon.

the fact that some of those events were paid for with consent and some were basic rape....
is irellavent to energetic attchment over time-which is misguided via both scenarios..

the penetrators wish to recapitulate only "at" the point they were penetrating.
the penetrated wish to recapitulate "before" the point they were penetrated.
................................................

i guess it comes down to what you believe exists before the current corporeal.

is it human archetypes free of each other and autonomous?
or they a nasty clusterfuck of human history?

the KNOWN in terms of the underworld appears to be the clusterfuck habitual assemblage point
the penetrator who does not wish to "unfuck" a damn thing.. is using the "KNOWN" to perpetually abuse.
utilising the known as abuse manifests further abuse in the greater environment.
..........
critically however he she is not able to recapitulate to innocent form as to do so will
disempower thei ability to perpetuate wounding on others..
..
nice people.



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[glance left]

Yeah, it's a mess in every direction. (You've been headlong into the worst of it, sounds like) But maybe, as you implied before, something happens by proxy in terms of taking the charge (innocence) born of recapitulation out there in the midst of that mess. Maybe that charge can incite change. Speaking personally, something seems to shift among the people I'm around when I'm clear (a fluctuating thing, given my slow to resolve instability)....but maybe that shift is only in my perception (but, really....is there anything else? apart from what's perceived?)

"i guess it comes down to what you believe exists before the current corporeal.
is it human archetypes free of each other and autonomous?"

I don't know how useful it is, at least for me, to look at things this way. The fore and aft of the spear of destiny with the gap being the present. You implied that's its all in the present at one point up above and, to me, that's where whatever's going on is in play and can be addressed....right here and now. In that respect, the clusterfuck, has to do with a level of awareness that's occurring right now, where obsessive clinging to the sense of self to the extent that it's terrified of no longer existing in the sense of the known creates the clusterfuck, which is a mish-mash of never-ending grabbing/stealing/killing/fleeing/hiding/dividing/conquering/pleasure-seeking and pain-avoiding......etc. The "free-and-autonomous" part is here too.....on a deeper level, beneath clusterfuck level. To indulge in metaphor, I like to think of the ocean. Storms whip it into a frenzy, but only superficially. The deeper down you go, the less of the mayhem above is experienced. Detachment/unraveling lends itself to shifting away from and below the level of clusterfuck, much of which occurs at the level of the mind/dialog. At least that's where it's perpetuated. Its a simple paradigm, but it's all I can manage, honestly.

So, on a personal note....recap to detach and unravel and then to progressively sink below the chop up on top. Uphold inner silence to maintain that trajectory and progress in this process. Soon, as detachment progresses, the known gives way to the unknown.....perhaps where the more autonomous archetypes exist in a much less hellish/clusterfuck-like existence....and then, well.....if the process persists, maybe then the unknown gives way to the unknowable...where the form of human-ness becomes less recognizable. But its all still connected through and through. The known is here.......the unknown is here....and the unknowable is here.....all coexisting. You mentioned the pivot point around which all three rings revolve. That has something to do with it, if I understand you at all.

In terms of the "point of recapitulation"....I think the underlying intent dictates whether it finds the proper position and proceeds from there (trajectory of the spear of destiny) The heartfelt intent to get to the heart of the issue and then to persist. You mentioned that recap is not simple memory.....I agree, but it has to start somewhere. And for most, simple memory is the only starting point available. The formal list helps get the ball rolling, I guess

[rosygyro]

glance left wrote:
"i guess it comes down to what you believe exists before the current corporeal.
is it human archetypes free of each other and autonomous?"
If you remember, i am a great believer in the physical template at birth and death as being "free energetic points" in incarnation.  I believe the known and the clusterfuck to be those parts of the world which drag us off our individual template/vibration into this earths corporeal, causing age, death,  i believe the death defier operates on a skin of awareness which demarcates the cure for the known and its maladay.( this skin and its potential itself being a form of leap to infinity, as its knowledge increases the potential of life evolving) appearing as a virgin teenager as delicate as a soap bubble, that a person who is not ruled by their known may see the bubble.. and a person with no forebearance will accidently destroy the bubble and only see a purple hooded, semi rotted horses head or other reflected violation. The fore and aft of the spear of destiny with the gap being the present.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      appearing as if it has a gap.. like an x-ray makes a gap of skin. I also aliken the spear of destiny to a tree,, the fore being the crown section,, the aft being the root section.. UNLESS the tree is joined the tree is dead. and on this basis when seeing the spear joined.. it is VITAL to make room for the growth rings. The growth rings are exact mirrors either side of the cut, and we must stand "many years away from the core of the tree" in order to respect where its life channelling BARK is. I really do not try to stand between the two halves.. but instead witness the two matching halfs connected.. and know they are connected by the thwack of the BARK and the emanation of the rings of growth as they match up to each other.pre- discovering the two halves of the spear of destiny.. there was a certain amount of coding between root and crown section as i tried to match up the rings, tried to match up jewels., but once they are set i am out of the way of that living thing.. my awarness was only a thorn (or unwinding chainsaw) in its side anyway. better to wake up finding myself banging my face against the tree than to remain lodged in its death and pre-birth. (although i do like maple syrup) The jewel of omen.. The jewel of omen is a recapitulative tool. i am aware that social conditioning rules my perception and with this in mind i connect my intent to the success of the sear of destiny (collective) and allow the light it casts to illuminate dark parts of my recapitulation.. I intend NO specific translation for the present. meaning very irrational translations can appear as offshoots of hidden social conditioning. As it stands normal hidden social conditioning translates itself through the portion of the growth rings termed (jewel of illusion) and all we see is geared toward keeping us asleep to our energetic root.By using the jewel of omen. (basicly the jewel of illusion bound and exposed the collective destiny and dragged until it spins and shines) we can empower "false memory" in order to trigger insight. Its the dangerous mad **** though.. but will be very effective in triggering remorse.

[glance left]

"If you remember, i am a great believer in the physical template at birth and death as being "free energetic points" in incarnation. I believe the known and the clusterfuck to be those parts of the world which drag us off our individual template/vibration into this earths corporeal, causing age, death, i believe the death defier operates on a skin of awareness which demarcates the cure for the known and its maladay.( this skin and its potential itself being a form of leap to infinity, as its knowledge increases the potential of life evolving) appearing as a virgin teenager as delicate as a soap bubble, that a person who is not ruled by their known may see the bubble.. and a person with no forebearance will accidently destroy the bubble and only see a purple hooded, semi rotted horses head or other reflected violation"

Yeah, I saw the rotting face years ago and, upon emerging from the state within which it emerged, had the impression that it was the DD (I was far less forebearant then, than I am now, obviously....so that fits). It was talking about stalking the self....and I responded with my understand of it, but upon doing so, it became visibly saddened. Funny....I thought the visual representation reflected his/her/its problem and not mine, in terms of reflecting my state of awareness. Chalk it up to ignorance. (going back to "known, unknown, and unknowable"...interesting the capacity to see the DD as either a rotting undead corpse or a innocent young girl. Those two representations illustrate, at least in my understanding, the 2nd attention metaphorical (based on a 1st attention inventory) manifestation of a 3rd attention fact...which is indescribable or baseless in terms of 1st attention inventory. But, anyways...back to what's relevant)

"appearing as if it has a gap.. like an x-ray makes a gap of skin. I also aliken the spear of destiny to a tree,, the fore being the crown section,, the aft being the root section.. UNLESS the tree is joined the tree is dead. and on this basis when seeing the spear joined.. it is VITAL to make room for the growth rings. The growth rings are exact mirrors either side of the cut, and we must stand "many years away from the core of the tree" in order to respect where its life channelling BARK is. I really do not try to stand between the two halves.. but instead witness the two matching halfs connected.. and know they are connected by the thwack of the BARK and the emanation of the rings of growth as they match up to each other"

Ok, I'm starting to apprehend something the whole of it a little bit, I think in terms of the metaphor (the tree metaphor works better for me than the spear of destiny). Continuity of awareness. A continuum which gathers the whole of what's actually here...the whole of what's here an now of my totality of which escapes my awareness in its fractured state. Recovery. Union. Merging and then extending awareness through the whole of it.

I guess my way of trying not to stand between the two halves...at least theoretically...is to realize there is no me at all. It's a distortion which creates the illusion of bits and pieces....of a thing that was born, will live and die. The distortion is emphasized in the dialog and its preoccupation with the fractured/separate self. There is no two halves, in reality. DJ said "forget the self....and everything will fall into place" Inner silence that's doesn't reflect upon the "self" (forebearance) and...well, what's left except for awareness but to expand and fill the space opened up? It will simply, naturally flesh out the reality of the tree as a whole.....a tree whose branches/leaves and rootlets extend to infinity. Reality/infinity is what's apprehended when the illusion is let go of.

Thing is, there's a compulsion to cling to the illusion/sense of self, thus when awareness shifts after a certain degree of enhancement, then the second attention opens up and a whole wild playground emerges within which the "self" can become aggrandized again. Hanzel and Gretel wandering off to the candy cottage.

"pre- discovering the two halves of the spear of destiny.. there was a certain amount of coding between root and crown section as i tried to match up the rings, tried to match up jewels., but once they are set i am out of the way of that living thing.. my awarness was only a thorn (or unwinding chainsaw) in its side anyway. better to wake up finding myself banging my face against the tree than to remain lodged in its death and pre-birth."

"once they are set i am out of the way of that living thing" I wonder if they can be set by simply getting out of the way in the first place? Otherwise, one takes the metaphor piecemeal and tries to figure out its component parts and "match up" those parts to ones direct experience. I don't know....maybe I'm just being lazy.

"The jewel of omen.. The jewel of omen is a recapitulative tool. i am aware that social conditioning rules my perception and with this in mind i connect my intent to the success of the sear of destiny (collective) and allow the light it casts to illuminate dark parts of my recapitulation.. I intend NO specific translation for the present. meaning very irrational translations can appear as offshoots of hidden social conditioning. As it stands normal hidden social conditioning translates itself through the portion of the growth rings termed (jewel of illusion) and all we see is geared toward keeping us asleep to our energetic root.By using the jewel of omen. (basicly the jewel of illusion bound and exposed the collective destiny and dragged until it spins and shines) we can empower "false memory" in order to trigger insight. Its the dangerous mad **** though.. but will be very effective in triggering remorse."

I think I see. Jewel of omen can only be interpreted in the context of progression/expansion to embrace the totality of oneself. Otherwise, it just becomes "what's in it for me" when "me" is really beside the point...the fractured gap...the chainsaw.

"(basicly the jewel of illusion bound and exposed the collective destiny and dragged until it spins and shines) we can empower "false memory" in order to trigger insight. Its the dangerous mad **** though.. but will be very effective in triggering remorse." I don't understand this part at all.

"I do like maple syrup"

[Billy]

I AM the spear of destiny.  If using the analogy of a tree, I AM deeply, healthily grounded in my own awareness.  My trunk or body takes leave (double entendre) of the empty world, and whatever manifests moves around me like the windLet the eagle unravel.    I AM the spear of destiny.  

     If using the analogy of a tree, I AM deeply, healthily grounded in my own awareness.

    My trunk or body takes leave (double entendre/get it) of the empty world,

    and whatever manifests moves around me like the wind.

   Let the eagle unravel.

[rosygyro]

RECAPITULATION.
Part of the process of a soul through the living corporeal is bound to intelligently co-operate with life as it moves.
I don't mean to entrap anyone with this statement, more to illustrate a moving template.

For instance- earlier the death defier as soap bubble virgin female was once again bought up.
for myself as a 41 year old man its a simple understanding for me to hold back from and forebear my sexual energy from
that portion of the sorcerers world that virgins inhabit.
easy for me to withhold my current day intent from touching that soap bubble..

but not so in totality.. for 35 years back in my recapitulation..
i am 6 years old looking at a biology textbook..
showing the stages of maturity of boys and girls..
and looking at 12 year old boys with envy of their dawning puberty
and 8 year old girls as mature in comparison to myself..
my sexual exitement that day in no way held back from the soap bubble
but as i had no expereince of the depths of the female.
i had no thorn to pop it even if i had tried.
the FACT that the only vagina my penis had been in was my mothers
on the day of my birth
was itself a confusing bit of reference for me as i looked at the images of 
little , bigger than me, illustrated girls.

RECAPITULATION as such contains different stages of our own growth
not just the once i was a boy and all else were adults..
but also.. before i became an uncle..
before i learned to grieve.
before i was someone elses sisters boyfriend
or someone else competition for a girl.
before i was the second sexual partner
filling the wound left by rape
like a reluctant jello in a mold.

[glance left]

You kinda lost me.

No worries, though. All above is enough to dive back into it, daily. For now, all I know is just go back and recapitulate life's experiences again (hopefully honing in on the pivotal ones, for efficiency's sake)....more deeply this time to uncover what was not touched upon with the first pass. Sexual experiences are obviously pivotal, so that's in. All emotionally charged moments....obviously in as well.

The intent to renew the excavation should guide the shovel from there, I trust.

In terms of omens....interesting moment a couple hours ago.

I'm sitting at work, charting on patients seen here in the ER. Sometimes there's a few moments down time, here and there. At this point, sometimes I just gaze silently at a blank part of computer screen and allow my AP to shift.... This time, though, I silently went back to recapitulate the torment of waiting, as a child, for my dad to get home and beat me for something I had done wrong. It was agony....waiting for that moment of climax of pain and frustration when he would take me aside and start doling out the blows. I'm just sitting, silently gazing at the blank computer screen, constructing the scene in my mind's/dreaming eye...and breathing back and forth with nearly imperceptible movements of my head. The instant I began breathing to recap the scene, the patient in a room right next to me suddenly and without warning sat up and began violently and spectacularly throwing up huge gouts of vomit. Came out of the blue. He was quiet and sleeping all morning...and then suddenly started throwing up. I stopped when he started....and then, just as suddenly, he stopped and its been quiet ever since.

Weird

[rosygyro]

i was talking about using recapitulationto identify fibres you coalesced in your childhood
that did not percieve the interior of the feminine
and which had not yet become distorted within the unknowable.
i was suggesting that the use of earlier alignments and bringing them to the fore
could help you blinker your known from habitually invading the female presence.

hey- didnt casteneda talk about some shaman who used to be able to fly around with the wind
and just *** people as it blew?

thats not what i was talking about.
although i will admit that 20 years ago
i spent some time leaping from rock to rock accross a high hillside river
using red fibrous energy tethers to drag me through the intervening space
lending agility and hilarity to my don genaro cause.

[Nagual Menagerie]

Interesting discussions. One thing I'm curious about is what a person does after recap. We have a scene from life being reviewed, but I've missed what is done with it once painful memories are brought to the surface. Do we leave it there to fester or is the act of retrieval meant to set it free?

Reviewing past trauma is healing when people can apply a healthy perspective, but what happens for those who don't have the resources or skills to transform trauma?

[glance left]

For me, liberation is engendered in the act of recapitulating trauma (I use the traditional sweeping breath taught as per DJ, CC, Cleargreen....but I can imagine any way that harbors sufficient intention would work well). The liberation is immediate felt within the body/energy body....a deep relaxation, opening of space within through which energy floods in. It's obvious, now....maybe not so obvious when first started, if I remember correctly. And then, I step away from recapitulation with awareness and intention to meet those moments again, however they crop up.....and they always do, in one way or another.....in day to day interactions. Thus the integrity gained in recap is challenged/tested...and strengthened, hopefully, as the core issue is addressed again and again and again, deeper and deeper.

Re " what happens for those who don't have the resources or skills to transform trauma". It's a good question.....but, consider this. Where did the recapitulation come from? "The Rule"? Tensegrity or the magical passes? The "template" that Rosy talks about? Or any procedure system for liberation inherent in any lineage or mystical/magical system? It all came from infinity ultimately...with which everyone has a connecting link, no matter how deranged they are. My impression is that, everyone is constantly and perennially intuits the cubic centimeter of chance to begin the approach to infinity by intuiting that link and how to clean it. Procedure is beside the point, but still a part of it. It's the intent to follow intent into the heart of the matter until.........homecoming

[glance left]

So, for me.....the scene of trauma is brought up for review. The intent, for me, is to embody it as much as I can.....relive it, in essence. From what I understand, this capacity becomes more and more fine tuned as the practitioner continues to practice. Intent to feel everything that was felt amidst the worst of those moment.....the fear....the pain.....the anger/frustration......the nauseating flickering disruption in the body and the dialog as its whipped into a frenzy....the panic and desperation to be anywhere but where I was in those moments. And then, to breath into those horrifying moments the intent to accept them/embrace them to the extent that there's no reflexive recoiling of my energy fibers (as much as I can) while in those moments. To stay innocent as the moment passes through so that things remain open and clear when the moment is gone. Interesting insights come pouring in during recovery of those moments. Silent knowledge....indicators as to what should have been done to optimize those moments....perhaps to have avoided them in the first place. But the main thing is the open, aware acceptance of what cannot be avoided.

So, as Rosy says, the intent to practice unraveling....those moments where I coiled down over and over again years ago....and those moments where the tendency to recurrent coiling happens from day to day/moment to moment. To practice for the great unraveling, I guess, in the end.

My issue is, now....stability in recapitulation. For me, the moments recovered can be super clear...intense...but only stay in view for a few seconds before the dreaming eye moves off to something else. Its either really efficient....or its just restless....or perhaps fear won't let me go much deeper at any given go. Hard to say, but it hardly matters. Key is persistence.

[Nagual Menagerie]

I agree with the process, desensitizing the self is critical to facing trauma. It's inspiring you're open to many different techniques to achieve healing.

Once trauma has been processed, is there a component to apply forgetfulness? I read a fortune cookie once, and it gave, 'A good memory is a virtue, but the ability to forget is better.'

Forgetting we were a victim, by applying a counter perspective, achieves balance. So forgetting seems more similar to forgiveness, in the case of the cookie. I wonder why CC stuck with recap without aftercare. He provided a process that left people in an unstable space. Only the innovative would take it upon themselves to figure out the other half.

CC wasn't the brightest tool in the bunch, but I guess the same reflection can be made about Freud. Someone has to start a new field of science and be that ****. Heh.

[glance left]

Well, the forgetfulness is only in terms of the tendency to repetitively coil down....that is resolved. The memory isn't dispensed with....just the deleterious energetic consequences.

It all begins and ends in infinity. Aftercare can't be instituted, really, I don't believe. It depends on any individual's persistence through what infinity started in the first place, regardless of the external details of that starting. CC....Deepak Chopra....Tony Robbins.....whateverthefuck. All external manifestations of the inward impulse to clear the connecting link....all will dissolve in the face of the reality of what's really going on...which is indescribable. At least to this ****'s understanding

[Nagual Menagerie]

Why can't everyone be as simple and efficient in their explanation, as you've been here? Your explanation makes sense to me. You've broken it down to a very basic understanding. The filters others use make the process so damn retarded that I wonder how people aren't turned into mindless sheep in the process.

EFT is like the bible, one of many ways to interpret sorcery.

Thanks, Glance for keeping things simple and universal.

[glance left]

Well, leave it to a simpleton to compulsively try to simplify things. For me, it's the only way I can approach all this stuff

[serloco]

Interesting conversation here. Forgetfulness is useful however we still made decisions and crafted our awareness, our know, and set our intent from that moment we have forgotten. The question remains does forgetfulnes still leave the connections and the energetic consequences set from that moment? In traditional memory yes it does leave them still intact. So therefor the person is still weaving the same pattern of intent set from those forgotten moments. However the intent to forget completely, and ERASE the memory and the event itself from reality would leave you free and clear of the said event.

I remember being with my ally and learning great things about the moment of now. I wanted to be free and clear from the past and the past world and so i told my ally that the next daytrip we took would be free and clear from ALL PAST. SUre enough I had woken up forgotting every detail of my life and thus no longer intending the same reaity and the same outcome. I did hold however the awareness of the free and clear and present moment. The day trip we took created a new city for us and it was woven as we travelled thru the city. Surrounded in dark energy and formless horizons we would tell each other stories of the city itself and thus weave it as we spoke.

I have spent some time studying the knowledge of memory, as knowledge forms the pattern and dictates how the memory functions. Using the right knowledge intends the right process of memory. Naturally. That is why the process of the recap is so valuable for it sends us into freedom, letting loose the bondage of many trapped years. Sure those years are beautiful and wild, and partially free even maybe, but who wants to hold and live in the past forever? Not I. Speaking of the knowldge of memory and the recap gem I would have us take a loo at the pattern of perfect intent. The pattern of the Great Spirit. WHen one set an intent the world moves to accomplish this goal. When the sorcerer master sets his intent to shift his awareness perfectly to a new position he intends the awarenes thus instantly moves to accomplish this intent. You can see if you examine intent that it has a pattern within it. A very beautiful pattern. 1345678910!!!! Perfect motion. Examining the pattern of intent and Spirit I have found akin to what I call the drunken Nagual. The nagual sets his intent to do something and then his body moves, unknowningly thru the process of accomplishment. Sure he may know he is moving to his goal and he may let go and not see yet how this goal will be accomplished. Non the less the intent of the drunken nagual moves his awareness right along the course perfectly as he has intended. It lets us see that we intend great and even unknown things and yet even tho we may forget them we are still moving to accomplish this goal. Our intent from days gone by is still in motion, moving us along our course perfectly, or shabbily as ur perfection, our knowldge, our power, and our awareness dictates for us. This brings me to the conclusion of my post in that the recap is the perfection of leaving behind old intents and old patterns we no longer have use for. Brings to us our totality, our freedom, and our wings.