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Glance, you may be onto something regarding level zero, progress misleading the masses, and the concept of home.
Not to preach about Jesus (I promise I'm no bible thumper), but he was rumored to enjoy the criminals, prostitutes, poor, outcasts, wealthy, and the dedicated. Point is all were equal to himself and were given, not forced to earn, that level of respect. If we are perfect, how is it there is progress or work to do, I wonder. If there is no work, what do we believe we're working on to progress. Returning home is journeying inward, as you hint at (feel free to correct me if that's not it).
It's interesting to observe disciplines where competition and hierarchy, even fear, are used to encourage people to race to a destination. If the participants are so focused on racing past the eagle and to freedom, might they notice the path will likely carry them to an unexpected destination. Imagine if going home meant the release of pain, acceptance, and unconditional self love. There might be no work left to do!
The thought of nothing to do sends shivers up my spine. Let me create more work for myself so I never have enough time to travel inward, toward home. Home is a frightening concept, I mean, what if I'm turned away?
It's interesting the unknown is the most frightening concept to many. Each journey home is so unique that books can't be used as road maps, only as relative directions at best. "Sit beneath a tree, but you can choose any comfortable location. If you're hungry, try again after a meal. If you're angry, love. If it's noisy, select a different tree."
What if the eagle is the self and the point is there is never an eagle at the destination. How long might I wait for an eagle to combat, I wonder. I mean, I've learned I must fight a bird which wants to eat me! I'm expecting my 40 virgins!
Oh, wait. Wrong forum.
I'm expecting my eagle to be eaten? To spread my wings and fly? To race past a beast and through a gate! I must fight! It shouldn't be as simple as sitting with my eyes closed, no, that sounds deceptively easy. I'm very suspicious of deep meditative states, that can't be the way home. I don't have to work hard enough to feel as though I've earned it.
Heh, the struggle is real.
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Hahahaha... I have a HUGE EGO... \\
Looking in and enjoying that. No oneness for me.
I love dark chaotic.....
I foresee damaging my PC.
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glance left- But seriously, where do you think the impetus to do "everything that I'm supposed to" comes from?
I do not mean to be cruel, but engage me in the Stalker's Playground. The impetus to do "Everything you are supposed to" comes from CHOICE born in your primary awareness. I will reveal the holes in your current state of "Grace." That is going to be frightful!
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"Returning home is journeying inward"
I agree.
And, I agree, going home is frightening, and I can't figure out why. It's insane. Who is there to turn us away? No one, I don't think. Yet I turn away, and struggle some more....work some more....procrastinate.
I can't speak to the Eagle...I haven't seen it and I've stopped looking. I guess it's there, in a manner of speaking. I have a hunch you're right, though. There is no eagle upon arrival.
The struggle to stop struggling.....seems very real, indeed. Simple, but not easy. Well, maybe for some. For some, it's a snap. For us hard cases (not you, I don't think) it's very dark before the dawn.
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" I do not mean to be cruel, but engage me in the Stalker's Playground. The impetus to do "Everything you are supposed to" comes from CHOICE born in your primary awareness. I will reveal the holes in your current state of "Grace." That is going to be frightful"
"The first principle of the art of stalking is that warriors choose their battleground."
Right. With that in mind, my battleground is, as always, right here.....not over there. The "holes in my current state of grace" are only rent open when I wander off looking for answers elsewhere. Ask Goldilocks and Little Red Riding Hood.
I'll stay right where I am, thanks. This is where primary awareness has firm footing.
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See rosygyro's post #917 sorcery experiences (New Seers). You will enjoy it!
"...and i would keep getting the perception of excrement mixed up with my sandwich.
the worst thing to ever do is to stop eating the sandwich..."
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Little Red Riding Hood likes the primal risk of venturing into fear and excitement.. It is sexy as all get out to be in A Race to the Death.
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No more wild goose chases for this papa san.
C'est fini. *puts the sandwich down*
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Agree, talk is cheap. The proof is in the pudding. It's hard to meditate when running from a tiger. And the obstacle of "seeking words out"....could be, could be. I don't perceive an obstacle there but that doesn't mean it's not there to be perceived. I'm open to the possibility and will adjust when it's clear.
As for what happens later, I'll take your word for it...and, I guess, simply find out when I get there. Bottom line is, I trust what's in motion....and "down the road" seems to be firmly in front of me.
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You misunderstood what I meant by not seeking words out. I am speaking as to your demeanor. Read as many words as you do. Pay more attention to when and how you approach. You will learn an art there, and avoid any dilution. Challenges become much greater as you move forward. Certitude of connectivity cannot be hit and miss. You are dealing with mastery of power.
SURE!! You are doing everything as you are supposed to, glance left. Ideas are stored away until you need them.
Another thing... learn to know the rhthyms of getting on high. Everything is in cycles of peaks and valleys. When you peak, know it as it happens, then watch and understand (enjoy) the fall-off. Yes, maybe this is WAY down the road. But now you understand this is doable. Self mastery has exponential qualities. You don't have to preconceive EVERY idea, but those you store away now immediately form bridges to empircism later.
I don't know where you are exactly, but all of the mind states are to be non-threatening. That is, you face dark night, fear, despair, tragedy, loss, rejection, etc. without bowing down or out. All are energetic states, and your awareness is stupendously the overseer of energy. When you are very high, bring your attention. Occasionally you must peek in and be objective. What is you see.. what is the underlayment of manifestation. This work is how you gain consistency. Self-mastery is possible. I act like I know what I am talking about, because I do what I am talking about. I assure you I was not innately gifted. I got lots of help.
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Roll with the changes. Pay attention. Be aware. Don't give up. Got it.
Sorry, but card-carrying morons like me have to break it down into simple-Simon chunks in order to digest.
Where am I? I'm here, where else? I'm not really looking for sign posts to measure my progress. (In fact...."progress", I'm finding, is a very tricky thing....one of which I'm becoming less preoccupied with, the more misleading I find it to be) But, if pressed for an answer, I guess I'm at.....level zero.
But seriously, where do you think the impetus to do "everything that I'm supposed to" comes from? How did Gautama find his way home? I'm mean....all he did was sit under a tree. That's it. Just insistence and persistence amidst inner silence. Where else can one go, in that state, but home? No where. And he did...find his way home. To the dismay of all those telling him what and what not to do.
Look, you got lots of help...and you want to return the favor. I get it. And I appreciate it. Maybe I should just leave it at that. Thanks for the suggestions.
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Glance, you may be onto something regarding level zero, progress misleading the masses, and the concept of home.
Not to preach about Jesus (I promise I'm no bible thumper), but he was rumored to enjoy the criminals, prostitutes, poor, outcasts, wealthy, and the dedicated. Point is all were equal to himself and were given, not forced to earn, that level of respect. If we are perfect, how is it there is progress or work to do, I wonder. If there is no work, what do we believe we're working on to progress. Returning home is journeying inward, as you hint at (feel free to correct me if that's not it).
It's interesting to observe disciplines where competition and hierarchy, even fear, are used to encourage people to race to a destination. If the participants are so focused on racing past the eagle and to freedom, might they notice the path will likely carry them to an unexpected destination. Imagine if going home meant the release of pain, acceptance, and unconditional self love. There might be no work left to do!
The thought of nothing to do sends shivers up my spine. Let me create more work for myself so I never have enough time to travel inward, toward home. Home is a frightening concept, I mean, what if I'm turned away?
It's interesting the unknown is the most frightening concept to many. Each journey home is so unique that books can't be used as road maps, only as relative directions at best. "Sit beneath a tree, but you can choose any comfortable location. If you're hungry, try again after a meal. If you're angry, love. If it's noisy, select a different tree."
What if the eagle is the self and the point is there is never an eagle at the destination. How long might I wait for an eagle to combat, I wonder. I mean, I've learned I must fight a bird which wants to eat me! I'm expecting my 40 virgins!
Oh, wait. Wrong forum.
I'm expecting my eagle to be eaten? To spread my wings and fly? To race past a beast and through a gate! I must fight! It shouldn't be as simple as sitting with my eyes closed, no, that sounds deceptively easy. I'm very suspicious of deep meditative states, that can't be the way home. I don't have to work hard enough to feel as though I've earned it.
Heh, the struggle is real.
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Hahahaha... I have a HUGE EGO... \\
Looking in and enjoying that. No oneness for me.
I love dark chaotic.....
I foresee damaging my PC.
hahahaha
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Joined: Feb 2019
Soon, my PC's media player (mind):
glance left, get a real _ _ _ _ .
Using "Mike" is okay, but in a nutshell, Mike Hunt is to die for.
TASTY nut
OoooHHHaaa Mmmm Yum
I expect obedience even in chaos.
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glance left- But seriously, where do you think the impetus to do "everything that I'm supposed to" comes from?
I do not mean to be cruel, but engage me in the Stalker's Playground. The impetus to do "Everything you are supposed to" comes from CHOICE born in your primary awareness. I will reveal the holes in your current state of "Grace." That is going to be frightful!
Mike Hunt loves the truth.
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"Returning home is journeying inward"
I agree.
And, I agree, going home is frightening, and I can't figure out why. It's insane. Who is there to turn us away? No one, I don't think. Yet I turn away, and struggle some more....work some more....procrastinate.
I can't speak to the Eagle...I haven't seen it and I've stopped looking. I guess it's there, in a manner of speaking. I have a hunch you're right, though. There is no eagle upon arrival.
The struggle to stop struggling.....seems very real, indeed. Simple, but not easy. Well, maybe for some. For some, it's a snap. For us hard cases (not you, I don't think) it's very dark before the dawn.
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" I do not mean to be cruel, but engage me in the Stalker's Playground. The impetus to do "Everything you are supposed to" comes from CHOICE born in your primary awareness. I will reveal the holes in your current state of "Grace." That is going to be frightful"
"The first principle of the art of stalking is that warriors choose their battleground."
Right. With that in mind, my battleground is, as always, right here.....not over there. The "holes in my current state of grace" are only rent open when I wander off looking for answers elsewhere. Ask Goldilocks and Little Red Riding Hood.
I'll stay right where I am, thanks. This is where primary awareness has firm footing.
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See rosygyro's post #917 sorcery experiences (New Seers). You will enjoy it!
"...and i would keep getting the perception of excrement mixed up with my sandwich.
the worst thing to ever do is to stop eating the sandwich..."
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Little Red Riding Hood likes the primal risk of venturing into fear and excitement.. It is sexy as all get out to be in A Race to the Death.
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No more wild goose chases for this papa san.
C'est fini. *puts the sandwich down*
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Agree, talk is cheap. The proof is in the pudding. It's hard to meditate when running from a tiger. And the obstacle of "seeking words out"....could be, could be. I don't perceive an obstacle there but that doesn't mean it's not there to be perceived. I'm open to the possibility and will adjust when it's clear.
As for what happens later, I'll take your word for it...and, I guess, simply find out when I get there. Bottom line is, I trust what's in motion....and "down the road" seems to be firmly in front of me.
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You misunderstood what I meant by not seeking words out. I am speaking as to your demeanor. Read as many words as you do. Pay more attention to when and how you approach. You will learn an art there, and avoid any dilution. Challenges become much greater as you move forward. Certitude of connectivity cannot be hit and miss. You are dealing with mastery of power.
SURE!! You are doing everything as you are supposed to, glance left. Ideas are stored away until you need them.
Another thing... learn to know the rhthyms of getting on high. Everything is in cycles of peaks and valleys. When you peak, know it as it happens, then watch and understand (enjoy) the fall-off. Yes, maybe this is WAY down the road. But now you understand this is doable. Self mastery has exponential qualities. You don't have to preconceive EVERY idea, but those you store away now immediately form bridges to empircism later.
I don't know where you are exactly, but all of the mind states are to be non-threatening. That is, you face dark night, fear, despair, tragedy, loss, rejection, etc. without bowing down or out. All are energetic states, and your awareness is stupendously the overseer of energy. When you are very high, bring your attention. Occasionally you must peek in and be objective. What is you see.. what is the underlayment of manifestation. This work is how you gain consistency. Self-mastery is possible. I act like I know what I am talking about, because I do what I am talking about. I assure you I was not innately gifted. I got lots of help.
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Roll with the changes. Pay attention. Be aware. Don't give up. Got it.
Sorry, but card-carrying morons like me have to break it down into simple-Simon chunks in order to digest.
Where am I? I'm here, where else? I'm not really looking for sign posts to measure my progress. (In fact...."progress", I'm finding, is a very tricky thing....one of which I'm becoming less preoccupied with, the more misleading I find it to be) But, if pressed for an answer, I guess I'm at.....level zero.
But seriously, where do you think the impetus to do "everything that I'm supposed to" comes from? How did Gautama find his way home? I'm mean....all he did was sit under a tree. That's it. Just insistence and persistence amidst inner silence. Where else can one go, in that state, but home? No where. And he did...find his way home. To the dismay of all those telling him what and what not to do.
Look, you got lots of help...and you want to return the favor. I get it. And I appreciate it. Maybe I should just leave it at that. Thanks for the suggestions.
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Glance, you may be onto something regarding level zero, progress misleading the masses, and the concept of home.
Not to preach about Jesus (I promise I'm no bible thumper), but he was rumored to enjoy the criminals, prostitutes, poor, outcasts, wealthy, and the dedicated. Point is all were equal to himself and were given, not forced to earn, that level of respect. If we are perfect, how is it there is progress or work to do, I wonder. If there is no work, what do we believe we're working on to progress. Returning home is journeying inward, as you hint at (feel free to correct me if that's not it).
It's interesting to observe disciplines where competition and hierarchy, even fear, are used to encourage people to race to a destination. If the participants are so focused on racing past the eagle and to freedom, might they notice the path will likely carry them to an unexpected destination. Imagine if going home meant the release of pain, acceptance, and unconditional self love. There might be no work left to do!
The thought of nothing to do sends shivers up my spine. Let me create more work for myself so I never have enough time to travel inward, toward home. Home is a frightening concept, I mean, what if I'm turned away?
It's interesting the unknown is the most frightening concept to many. Each journey home is so unique that books can't be used as road maps, only as relative directions at best. "Sit beneath a tree, but you can choose any comfortable location. If you're hungry, try again after a meal. If you're angry, love. If it's noisy, select a different tree."
What if the eagle is the self and the point is there is never an eagle at the destination. How long might I wait for an eagle to combat, I wonder. I mean, I've learned I must fight a bird which wants to eat me! I'm expecting my 40 virgins!
Oh, wait. Wrong forum.
I'm expecting my eagle to be eaten? To spread my wings and fly? To race past a beast and through a gate! I must fight! It shouldn't be as simple as sitting with my eyes closed, no, that sounds deceptively easy. I'm very suspicious of deep meditative states, that can't be the way home. I don't have to work hard enough to feel as though I've earned it.
Heh, the struggle is real.
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