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[Billy]

I am not a shill.  It is as if I'm someone's shadow here.  I don't like how words are in the way in saying it--I am going to be preumptuous and say, {HUGE HUGE ego(s) aside}, I SEE serloco's humbleness is BIG.

(edit: removed all caps from thread title)

[Littlepaw]

what part of the world you habitating Billy?

[Billy]

Northeast Ohio--wink.

The BEST part of genuine humbleness, is the sense of appreciation to thankfully SEE so clearly from the bottom up.

[Littlepaw]

I think I can relate to that, even though I know for ab solute certain the true meaning of humbleness it is the kind of thing one tends to forget, in my experience anywho.

Never been to the states, would like to see it some day, I find it easy to like American people, fascinating how you are like a branch of the colonial tree, similar yet very different!

[Billy]

Yeah, English colonized--I'm much part of a very uptight culture to be sure. 

If I can do humble here, please pass some ideas about it--what you said, etc.

I never heard the word thrum until this site, yet I got the feel of what it meant immediately.  Humbleness has that 'thrum' that moves inward, and recognizes say maybe being small (or a point) and aborbing the bigness of everything (Not wanting to touch it , because it is better without you (doing, or even better without you--period).

Can you key me how to hold that state often.

You do know, I know I came here a real jerk, and I want to learn. I had no idea.

[Billy]

Just to clarify what seems contradictory; I would say that the fill of humbleness opens to a natural expansiveness as some of the persons here show.

[Littlepaw]

lets see, I spend allot of time trying to make more effort with people. I have become aware that there seems to be a void of meaninglessness or disconnectedness which makes my experiences seem normal and unfulfilling, the theory that I follow and try to practice is that every moment could have within it some gem of poignancy or knowledge, like for example at my job there is a man who is currently showing me the ropes.

My first challenge is to try and not make everything about me which is hard because I want to be perceived as an intelligent hard-working person which is really not the whole truth, I can actually make peoples lives difficult when I work with them well I have in the past. Anyway I find that when I make allot of effort to be present and do my best with what ever is in front of me I become involved in a struggle and on my first day of my new job I left at the end of my shift having won a battle and gained some new knowledge. The knowledge I gained was what my new work colleague has to offer and my colleagues fears and insecurity's about himself.

If I had just been thinking about me I would never have noticed this new persons inner state. At the end of this battle I have found out that this person enjoys humour and is sharp witted and pretty hilarious which is the perfect basis for our new relationship as co workers. Starting a new job for me has always been awkward and frustrating where as at my new job I am focused on mostly encouraging my co worker to be funny in which he needs hardly any encouragement.

On one level this is just a normal situation but I believe being a warrior means taking normal situations and finding the deeper meaning ion them and being able to practically apply the Toltec teachings.

I think I have not really talked about being humble but I am not feeling very humble right now, if I can offer anything remotely profound to this thread it is something I may have learned a long time ago which is that people HATE it when you try to tell them that something is something they know it is not! being yourself is saying it how it is, very simple but has proven almost impossible to apply. I believe the way to judge this is exactly by how people treat you, if people look at you with a fake half hearted smile are they deceitful and two faced? or are they simply showing you that you are not worth an authentic response?

When people treat me well with kindness and laughter I know that I am on good form and perhaps in the kind laughing faces of others I can be Humble.

[Billy]

I loved the way you broke through the rigidness of writing (something I did not do), to convey a real feeling AND substance.  Thank you.

[Billy]

Hey, good luck with your job Littlepaw.  Share if you wish your geographical area.

[Silver Wind]

Remembering what Don Juan said, paraphrased: that when a warrior is hunting power he makes himself visible (standing on a hill top) and when he does not seek this he makes himself inaccessible(hidden). That to be known is no different than being unknown really.

Another time he said similar that no one knows a warrior, his comings and goings remain a mystery, that a warrior is unavailable. Then in another place (in the books CC wrote) he said a warrior hides nothing, that revealing personal details about him/herself is easy because who s/he is is not important. A warrior can reveal the most intimate details about oneself.

Why would a warrior live such a paridoxical way? Could it be to escape the grip of the FI on a perceptual level? Because one either lives under the influence of the FI or one lives in spirit (with power) so a choice has to be made (in perception). The battle takes place there.

[Billy]

Silver Wind... wrote:

[Billy]

battle takes place there.  (Thanks)

[Littlepaw]

I live about 30 min drive south of London

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