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What is your feeling concerning the Foreign Installation?
#26
Let there be no mistake. The flyer is a powerful parasite that eats your energy and keeps you from being a magical being.
It also treats you like cattle to be eaten.
This foreogn installation is the downfall of mankind and its worst enemy. The human race will fail unless it can be released from this terrible curse.
There are no other explanations for this evil in you.
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#27
Unless it is that we subject ourselves to this evil by taking on artificial identities that by their very nature are greedy and fearful.
dreamster
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#28
Do you know someone who does that?
Takes on artificial identities whose nature is fear and greed?
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#29
Everyone that I've ever met.
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#30
What I would like to knos is--how did they gain control over us to begin with? I think we had already found the place of self-reflection and started to develop ego--hence making ourselves easy prey. After all, if we had been maintaining inner silence, they would have left us alone. We need to take responsibility for this sorry state of affairs. And do something about it-like take back our minds. And be better and wiser for it.
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#31
OK dreamster
If every person you have ever met is an artificial identity: Then I can only realize(thinking from your viewpoint) that artificial is quite real.
I see the fear and greed too. I experience it. The fear and greed from what I see is what is artifical and not real.
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#32
I don't see the artificial as real, but I see it as quite pervasive. The artificial is created when we take on artificial identities, thus the need to drop our personal histories, because it's all a bunch of bullshit.
My problen with the foreign installation is that it seems to take away my own responsibility. I believe that I am responsible for the creation of my ego and thus I have the power to let it go, to quit identifying with it.
dreamster
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#33
Yes, I tend to feel as dreamster mentioned.
What we give out attention to lives.
Those who are concerned that a devil can control one's life actually creates the devil conciousness and then others hold that beleif and the devil becomes a powerful force fed by the doubts and fears of it's creators. The fruits of that kind of thinking spawns fear, doubt, suspicion and so on.
The same applies to holding a belief of the foreign installation and other things like e.g. the practice voodoo..etc, it is supplying energy to create a negative thought force.
It suits me better to live in the moment with awareness which reveals joy and love, and radiates out to all.
Su
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#34
Hello Lilly Mist. From what you say I would gather that your installation is a more "mellow" one but take it to the many killers and rapists in our world. The ones who feed on violence and fear. Apply your love ideas to the man who is a serial rapist that kills children. These are the foreign installations I warn against.
As I have mentioned before that in my studies there are very many "types" that come about. There are young and older installations. It is different for every human what they and their flyer become but in the final tally they still feed on mankind and deny him his destiny.
" What I would like to knows is--how did they gain control over us to begin with? I think we had already found the place of self-reflection and started to develop ego--hence making ourselves easy prey. After all, if we had been maintaining inner silence, they would have left us alone. We need to take responsibility for this sorry state of affairs. And do something about it-like take back our minds. And be better and wiser for it." Punachick writes.
How did they gain control? They entered us when we were children.
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#35
I was referring to, when did they take us over historically--how many thousands of years ago or whenever. Yes, now they enter us as children-not as babies,whose assemblage points are not yet on the place of self-reflection. But historically, we ourselves must have moved our assemblage points to the place of self-reflection. We developed our egos, then we were invaded...not the other way around. Casting the flyers as devils doesn't rid us of them. Taking responsibility for our predicament is what will set us free.
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#36
I understand how you mean this. Flyers come in different degrees and many of them are not devils as far as that term will allow.
When we stopped accessing silent knowledge and instead as you suggest moved to self-reflection they became our minds.
Since we are animals they helped us greatly but at a price.
We need to change how we treat the insane and criminal people to bear the parasite that has fed on them.
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#37
I am host to no installation or flyer.
You see that is exactly what I mean, human beings give energy and attention to these things, created by the thoughts of man, and they live.
The serial rapist was once an innocent child who listened to talk of foreign installations and demons and then spent a great deal of energy believing and giving attention to it.
You are right, we do need to take responsibility for our thoughts and actions and what we give our attention too.
And stop feeding and perpetuating negative ideas.
Man is Spirit and the nature of spirit is light and dark. We are free to play the game of creation however we like.
Su
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#38
we are born free
then the flyter moves into the womb
and already beings to UCK us up
some say the flier has been defeated
and now it only lives in humanity as a memory acting out the past
waiting for recap and justice
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#39
Yes, that's exactly what I meant. Regardless of how horrifying or distasteful we find these intruders, we have to take responsibility for taking back our minds--so we stop treating anyone we perceive as weak--the "insane", the poor, the young, the old--the same way the flyers treat us--as objects to be controlled and used. Ditto for how we treat animals and plants. We have GOT to get over ourselves.
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#40
The problem is universal. The solution individual.
I have a hard tme telling the difference between the Animal soul (Nepesh) in mankind and the foriegn installation. I have seen both in peoples faces.
God said to Cain "Why art thou wroth (Enraged) and why is thy Countenance (face) fallen?" This was after he slew his brother Abel.
Don Juan said that the trick was to see that the sorcerers world was just as much illusion as the everyday world and to "slip between" the two. This was the path to becoming a man of knowledge.
I would say that the solution is to "Aim Higher" rather than "Slip between".
The Old Testament is full of battles between the Israelites and other peoples like the Amorites, Philistines etc. This is Alegory. These are battles that we wage within. The exact battles you are speaking about.
The seemingly endless battles in a war which never seems to end of the "Old Testament" or "Covenant" are replaced by a "New Testament" or "Covenant" because the Battle Can Not Be Won by our own strength. It is by countless attempts do we realize this fact, come to the end of ourselves, and find The WAY.

Bright Flame
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#41
The flyers are indeed like animals but we are bodies are animals. We have teeth to eat like a predator. To feed on other living animals like the tiger, lion, wolf, and yet we have this mind that is different then the other animals. Why?
Because of the foreign installation?
The answer is the one that mankind must find.
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#42
Our teeth are not very predatorial. They are mostly flat for grinding and straight for cutting. Really our teeth do not compare to any true predators teeth.
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#43
I see your point and well read your other posts regarding this subject. My point was that we "can" eat flesh with our teeth.
Very good posts by the way my friend.
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#44
Ahh, thank you.
Tonight I am sad and happy and conflicted and at peace with love and hate.
I suppose I foten tend to over-react or under-react, and once someone told me balance does not exist! Haha!
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#45
At peace with hate is the warrior's dilemma.
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#46
At peace with Love the sorcerers!
Peace to you Nagual Wolf Pack
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#47
Hello Lone Wolf,
I see the 'Tenant' is no more.
Thanks for sharing your visions.
Scooby looks just like my Lena who also died in 2004. His picture brought tears to my eyes.

Note to Summer Dawn. Why can't you act human like everyone else. It is really sad how you separate yourself like that.
Su
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#48
Hello Lillian
Thank you and sorry to bring tears to you. Our animals are part of us as we are part of them.
The Tenant link has been moved to the ezboard ring.
As we watch we see that we are not immortal with them.
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#49
Tears are a good thing. If the eyes became too dry we would miss such a many good things.
My eyes usually tear when I yawn, LoL.
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#50
Hi Nagual LoneWolf,
ezzboard ring! how do I find it?
Yes, I felt very close to Lena, she was my wise sister, she still is.
lilly
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