Does anyone here have a FI magical pass description?

[Guest]

Hi,
Does anyone have a description of any of the magical passes associated with the FI?
They were given the names like 'scaring off the FI' and so on.
There were a couple of different versions taught at workshops a few years ago.
Thanks!

[Crocossaurio]

get castaneda's book "Magical Passes". Good for gymnastics' trainning, absolutely useless for scaring anything off...
say... would you be scared of from anybody whom would eventually make some funny gestures in front of you telling you that such gestures would protect them from you and drive you away magically? well, I for one would laugh my head off and show the gesturer how absurd his/her hopes were...
so... what makes you think that it would work on a different life form far more intelligent than what it's given credit for???
suite yourself, though... Magical Passes is available from any book store...

[Guest]

Maybe you are right in all that you say.....
However, on the other hand, I couldn't help but notice that your response to my post was to provide answers to questions I did not actually ask. More interesting still is that your answers had the mood of someone who had been slightly provoked, and felt the need to defend him/herself. Your post seemed to me at first to be rather emotionally charged rather than considered.
But reading your post once more I started to sense a hint of an underlying structure which gave me the unsettling feeling it had an agenda that I suspect not even you were aware of.
I noticed your post starts with a rather abrupt tone, then switches to rubbishing the magical passes book. Then, your post invites us all to take the point of view of the flyers and asks whether 'such gestures would protect them from you' ('them' being humans). Then you immediately provide the answer to that question by taking on the role of a flyer yourself and saying,' ....I for one would laugh my head off and show the gesturer how absurd his/her hopes were...'
Next, as if to reinforce the point, you provide a very strong challenge to a question *nobody has actually asked* when you say:
'so... what makes you think that it would work on a different life form far more intelligent than what it's given credit for???'
The 'so...' at the beginning reads like almost like the verbal equivelent of squaring up to me, a subtle way of showing dominance, and remember my original post simply asks for a 'mere' pass description, without expressing an opinion on anything.
At the end of this challenge to the question nobody asked is this curious 'fact' about a 'life form far more intelligent than what it's given credit for....' - where did that spring up from? and why does it have the feeling of smugness about it? - is this some kind of victory roll, perhaps?
Then there is a sudden change of mood with this line:
'suite yourself, though... Magical Passes is available from any book store...'
Why calm the tone so swiftly?
Having just muddled my original enquiry, offered absolutely no help whatsoever, stirred up a load of emotional chaos and made arguments out of nothing, and then WON those arguments aggressivly.... now you turn your back and walk away effectivly saying, 'whatever...' leaving me hanging, as it were.
In other words, your post looks rather like a perfect example of the flyers' mind being given free reign.
I started out with a straight forward enquiry for a description of the pass to scare off the flyers and now after reading this one reply I already feel slightly less clear, slightly less focused, some doubts creeping in, emotionally pulled this way and that, defensive, and with the feeling of something having been 'resolved to be even more unresolved', a vagueness...... an impotence.
Was that your intention when posting? Or did you even have an intention when you posted? And if not really, do you think somthing else might have been expressing its intentions through you?
I expect some people might think I am making too much of such a short post, but I say read my original post and then the reply again and tell me you don't see something in it.
--o0o--
Anyway, I am delighted to say I have recently been shown a description of a version of this pass and I believe it is an effective (and I would even say a rather mischievous) way of focusing one's intent and the mood of sustained discipline, which is so unpalatable to the flyers, in a way which is not even defiance, but rather what I would call a passionate noncompliance.

[koomw]

hi cosmic
what's the name of the pass or some clues, may i ask?
i know what you mean with your outher post. well that's seeing, eh?

[seeitall]

I'm interested in description/pictures/video of this pass too.
I would call it "you gonna die, bunghole"

[Crocossaurio]

Hi CosmicPigeon;
> Or did you even have an intention when you posted?
Yes I did. Which is puzzling to me is that with all that mighty seeing of yours, you managed to see everything which was not in my post and absolutely failed to see the only thing that is there to be seen. A proof. For you, of course, as you're one of those always desperately looking for proofs... and for some kind of "get rich fast" magical equivalent to efficiently do for you what only hard, disciplined, perseverant work can do.
Perhaps what you ought to look first and foremost, is as much a description of any magical passes, but rather a visit to a psychiatrist, oh "cosmic" one...
As I said, though... suit yourself... what do I know, anyway...
Oh... almost forgot... silly me... my apologies for my reply; a mistake indeed. Sleep well, though, for I am not one to make the same mistake twice.
Goodbye.

[Guest]

Hello Crocossaurio,
In case there is any doubt my posts are not a personal attack on you. More than anything your post baffled me. I am baffled as to why you seem to be trying to attack my motives for asking for this pass description in the first place.
Can you explain exactly what you mean by 'a proof'? You seemed to be saying that that was the intention of your post - but I don't really understand what you mean by that.
I did not say my observations were 'seeing' of any kind. I simply said I noticed things about your post.
Nor did I say I looking for, 'some kind of "get rich fast" magical equivalent to efficiently do for you what only hard, disciplined, perseverant work can do.'
I really don't know what your meaning is here or how it relates to what I wrote about wanting a pass description or about your post.
I do not know why you say I should look for a phychiatrist rather than a description of this magical pass. What exactly do you mean?
I do not really understand what you mean by all of this:
'As I said, though... suit yourself... what do I know, anyway...
Oh... almost forgot... silly me... my apologies for my reply; a mistake indeed. Sleep well, though, for I am not one to make the same mistake twice.'
I recognize the sarcasm in it but what are you actually trying to imply with it? I would rather you just said it straight.

[seeitall]

hi cosmic,
read your posts again and maybe you'll see your FI involvement in this too. it's quite a **** to stalk one's own FI,
it serves no purpose to analyze someone else, especialy
if he's not asking for.

btw, I'd still appreciate some description of this pass.

[Guest]

Hi Seeitall,
'it serves no purpose to analyze someone else, especialy
if he's not asking for'.
Yes, I know what you mean, but I have been genuinly suprised and baffled to read such a reacton to my initial enquiry.
I could just as easily say - 'it serves no purpose to jump on someone's thread asking for a pass description with a load of judgements, false assumptions, snide remarks and sarcasm, especially if she is not asking for it.'
His langauage was so emotive and chaotic that it honestly seemed to read like a ploy (whether deliberate or not) to muddle the whole issue and turn a simple enquiry into something else.
I admit I would not always pursue something like this, but I would have thought in a forum such as this that attempting to clarify our language, our meanings, is a top priority - time is short, if something needs to be said then let's say it clearly and get on with our lives - for instance if I myself am not being clear tell me and I will try and put it a better way!
More than anything else I would like to know what exactly it is Crocossaurio is trying to tell me.
--o0o--
'btw, I'd still appreciate some description of this pass.'
-When I have finished writing out a description of the pass I was shown I will be happy to share it with you, it shouldn't take too long.

[seeitall]

>More than anything else I would like to know what exactly it is Crocossaurio is trying to tell me.
well, that the passes are **** and you're a dumbass when
you believe in it. that would really piss me off and
I would start to prove that the real dumbass is croc.
but thats only how my own insane mind works. as you wrote,your motives are probably more impeccable.

[toltechie]

Hi CosmicPigeon,
> His langauage was so emotive and chaotic that it honestly seemed to read like a ploy (whether deliberate or not) to muddle the whole issue and turn a simple enquiry into something else.
I wont speak for Croc, but will vouch for the critters character, having benefited by the presence of that feller on this forum for some time. Croccosaurius is spontaneous and jocular, however, anything but emotive and chaotic. You must also excuse the critters grammatical transgressions. English isnt Croccos first language, but the critter expresses fluent and eloquent amphibian
> I recognize the sarcasm in it but what are you actually trying to imply with it? I would rather you just said it straight.
Crocco is not one to waist time or energy flattering or indulging a forum participant with what they want to hear. Croccos got an uncanny knack for reading between the lines. Ive only known wise and practical advice to emanate from that crocodiles generous and always well-meaning, big mouth. I need to be honest with you too. I got a very meaningful message from Croccos comments and see it as generous gift.
> More than anything else I would like to know what exactly it is Crocossaurio is trying to tell me.
Heres your proof: regardless of your slights about such, instead of dismissing those comments offhand, what Crocco said really effected you at a deeper level and prompted you to make further inquiries.
> I have been genuinly suprised and baffled to read such a reacton to my initial enquiry.
I have no intention of doing your homework for you. I would advise you to go back and gather all the awareness you can, to discover and absorb the information compressed into the short messages Crocco has already offered you. The critter is not one to waist time or energy on deaf ears.
> I started out with a straight forward enquiry for a description of the pass to scare off the flyers and now after reading this one reply I already feel slightly less clear, slightly less focused, some doubts creeping in, emotionally pulled this way and that, defensive, and with the feeling of something having been 'resolved to be even more unresolved', a vagueness...... an impotence.
If you really want to make some progress in prevailing against your flyers manipulations, ask yourself *who* or *what* is really reacting emotionally about all this, or stands to be bothered by it and *where* the source of your confusion truly lies. Instead of being caught up by the surface appearances of the moment, sincerely ask yourself all those questions youve been firing at Croc. The best answers lie within.
Best wishes,
Toltechie

[toltechie]

Hi seeitall,
> well, that the passes are **** and you're a dumbass when
you believe in it. that would really piss me off and
I would start to prove that the real dumbass is croc.
Do you really believe all that?...
> but thats only how my own insane mind works.
...or are you stalking your flyer?
Peace,
Toltechie

[Guest]

To seeitall, koomw and anyone else who would like to practice this pass.
Here is my description of it as it was shown to me recently. This is one version of two similar (but definately different) versions of this pass to do with unhooking ourselves from the flyer's influence.
Seeitall, if I were you I would NOT call it, "you gonna die, bunghole" ...because that is too much like the 'emotional flare ups' which are the mark of the FI. You may think that is me being pedantic (and I do know you were kind of making a joke!). But the way I feel these days is that EVERYTHING we do, say, or think is a command for energy to go in that direction. My prefered way to do this pass is in absolute seriousness in one's aims and totally fierce with it on the one hand and yet with total lack of concern for selfish motive on the other - producing a mood terrifying (to the flyer) of confidence and ease, so sure of your success you are just humbly accepting it just as art of your personal power.
It is the kind of pass which seems to come out best after the practice of other passes which sharpen or intent, our sobriety and quieten the mind - the complete Westwood series for instance is a great pass to do before this one.
Anyway, those are just some of my personal thoughts.
'Scaring Away the Foreign Installation' is an approximation of the name of this pass - it may actually have been given a slightly different name. VC = vital centres.
--o0o--
'Scaring Away the Foreign Installation'
- Left hand is just in front and a bit outside of left VC with palm facing down, fingers pointing forward (left elbow is by left hip). Right hand is directly in front of left VC (right forearm is across midesction). Right palm is facing up, fingers pointing left. Right hand should be a bit below the level of left hand and a bit to the right of it.
- Left hand makes 3 big and slow inward (clockwise) circles, passing over the top of right hand as each circle is made.
- Then the right hand makes 2 small, quick outward circles (anticlockwise) sort of underneath left hand.
- Then the right hand is placed in front of the midsection palm to the left, fingers pointing forwards. The left hand reaches behind back and grabs something there and swings to front to punch right palm (without touching) for 3 punches.
Repeat all above for the right side.
- Make 3 inward circles as the left knee is raised. Then on the right side. Then 3 outward on left and right side (like the pass 'forging the knees' in recapitulation group of Westwood series). Repeat again twice so there are three sets in total.
- Splashing energy up the inside of the legs with the opposite foot (from intent series). Just up to the level of ankles.
- Hands are just in front of VC with palms down. In unison (mirroring each other) they make a big flat figure of eight (infinity sign) around the hips on either side, going to the back first and then round to the front coming back to the same place in front of midsection.
- Then 3 more infinity signs are made in a similar way - but this time much smaller and much more quickly.
- Right hand is placed at midsection palm facing left , fingers forward as before and left hand grabs behind and punches round to the front. Left fist stays where it is as the right hand grabs behind and punches. Repeat twice more in quick succession to make 3 punches in total on each side.
- Hands makes a sort of flat claw, palms down, in front of midsection. Left hand reaches to the left and a bit behind and claws down the side of of luminous cocoon coming to rest in front of midsection again but this time palm up. Repeat with the right hand. Knees can bend a bit to aid the clawing motion.
- Left hand is raised to right shoulder where it gently pats down on the top of the shoulder with a relaxed palm (no claw) three times before returning hand. Repeat with right palm on left shoulder.
- Both hands reach down between feet and scoop just above the ground from heels to toes and carry on moving up as if to 'wipe' or 'pour' over top of head and face. Repeat again to make a total of 2 times.
- Scoop again but this time outside feet and going from toes to heels and bringing hands up to throw upwards from shoulders with an *inbreath* as you throw. Repeat 2 more times to make a total of 3 - after the 3rd throw run away to the left (and don't return) to avoid the thing you throw coming back at you.

[seeitall]

>To seeitall, koomw and anyone else who would like to practice this pass.
thank you very much !

[seeitall]

> ...or are you stalking your flyer?
Mostly indulging in stalking. Now I stalk the flyer
smarter then ever, whereas the other dumbasses even don't know they exists. wow,
am I not great, maybe the choosen one ? how funny and disgusting at the same time.

[toltechie]

Hi seeitall,
> Mostly indulging in stalking.
Indulging and stalking are practically opposite activities.
> Now I stalk the flyer smarter then ever, whereas the other dumbasses even don't know they exists. wow, am I not great, maybe the choosen one ? how funny and disgusting at the same time.
Just the term "dumbasses" proves out your lack of maturity or willingness to treat other forum members with respect.
The rest of what you wrote is extreemly delusional. I humbly submit that your flyer is running circles around you.
Peace,
Toltechie

[seeitall]

so easy to get misunderstood in this world.
I was explaining how the flyer is always one
step ahead of me, even when I want to stalk or
think I stalk, it can easily intrude and screw it
with imbecilic feelings or ideas. damn it, what
I wanted to say is that we may think we fight flyer,stalk
the flyer, but in fact we just serve it.
Give me 100 years, and I'll get rid of it.

concerning the word "dumbass", it probably has
quite different meaning for me after watching all
Beavis&Butthead series, no intent to offend anyone.
And respect ? do you think DJ had any respect
to CC ? He told him, he is an **** straigt,
had endless fun from his stupidity.

serve the flyer and be well

[seeitall]

>serve the flyer and be well
hey, just kidding, please don't misunderstand me.

[Guest]