YOGA

[Gonzo]

What about Nisargadatta?

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[Guest]

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"Where is the "me"? The "me" is always associated with the body and the body as seen through the microscope is nothing but a play of cells being created and destroyed."

"Truth or Reality is itself a concept. When you are in the truth or in deep sleep, which is only a pale reflection of the real, in that state of deep sleep is the Truth. And in that Truth there is no experience. In the waking state, the state of deep sleep is a concept. In deep sleep it is the Truth. But the moment you think of Reality, the moment you think Subject, the moment you think of the Absolute, the moment you think of the Truth, it is a concept. It is only when the thinking totally stops that Truth exists."

"When we talk of time and space, we say infinite space and eternal time. It is still a mental concept of total space and total time. But the mind cannot conceive of that state prior to the arising of the space-time. The moment you think of Reality, the reality is a concept. You are the Reality of which the split-mind makes a concept. You are the Reality, but not as the "me"

"It's very simple. Don't think about what you have heard here. Just don't think about what you think you've understood. And then that understanding will have a chance to flower. But the more you think about what you have understood, the more it's wasted."

"All there is, is Consciousness. And the mind is merely a reflection of that Consciousness."



"What is the significance of the statement 'No one can get enlightenment'? This is the very root of the teaching. It means that it's stupid for any so-called master to ask anyone to do anything to achieve or get enlightenment. The core of this simple statement means, according to my concept, that enlightenment is the annihilation of the "one" who "wants" enlightenment. If there is enlightenment - which can only happen because it is the will of God - then it means the "one" who had earlier wanted enlightenment has been annihilated. So no "one" can achieve enlightenment and therefore no "one" can enjoy enlightenment."

"The joke is even the surrendering is not in your control. Why? Because so long as there is an individual who says "I surrender" there is a surrenderer, an individual ego... What I'm saying is that even the surrendering is not in [your] hands."

("Who cares?", pp. 6 - 22)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ramesh_Balsekar

[Gonzo]

The more talking and thinking the farther from the truth.

[Cedar Waxwing]

Most of this rests to flower. "All there is, is Consciousness. And the mind is merely a reflection of that Consciousness.". So, just let the Consciousness flow?

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Cedar: zazen (dhyana) is good tek, its the flow, free flow of inner silence. i recommend zazen and yoga asanas. easy way how to completely free oneself and be happy.

[Cedar Waxwing]

am going to get info on the asanas (and not think or talk about it)

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yes try the asanas at home you will feel physically extraordinary well in this way



i recommend: supta vajra asana



put it at google: supta vajra asana



you must be carefull to not hurt oneself when exercising asanas, step by step moderately. you can use internet, videos and buy a book, also visit asana teacher - it could be asthanga yoga or vinayasa flow



for zazen tek: you need to visit a Soto zen centre and ask them to show you Zazen, Buddhas position.



Its the best.



Just be carefull and reasonable.

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I can recommend pure Yoga, especially Himalaya yoga traditions. Yoga is the pure integral spirituality, neither mere physical education or religion. Hence Yoga is denominator of both Christianity and Buddhism.



Himalaya tradition. Great book, really great book (of biblical proportions) next to Autobiography of a yogi, is Living with the Himalayan Masters by



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swami_Rama



and other books by Swami Rama



http://www.swamij.com



The other Great book



The Holy science by Sri Yukteswar

http://www.scribd.com/doc...kteswar-The-Holy-Science



And in the last resort, the autobigraphy of former sorcerer Milarepa, who killed 35 people with black magic, and found the Way-out. If You would have felt lost, this book will help You.





God help You.

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http://www.icyer.com/Meet%20the%20Guru.htm





His approach to living was entirely positive. "Iti, iti. God is This. God is that. Everything is God," he would say.





One of his foremost messages was, "Yoga is a way of life." He was an exemplar extraordinaire of his own words and lived life fully, consciously and skilfully.



all who understand the need for and value of the ancient life principles contained in ashtanga yoga, especially for modern man who, lost in the mad melee of materialism, cannot see the path out of all this madness.

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It is only when the thinking totally stops that Truth exists...




"Truth or Reality is itself a concept. When you are in the truth or in deep sleep, which is only a pale reflection of the real, in that state of deep sleep is the Truth. And in that Truth there is no experience. In the waking state, the state of deep sleep is a concept. In deep sleep it is the Truth. But the moment you think of Reality, the moment you think Subject, the moment you think of the Absolute, the moment you think of the Truth, it is a concept. It is only when the thinking totally stops that Truth exists."

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